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Considering Bangkok size I'm sure that there's more sex happening in BKK than Pattaya, Whether all those people are using KY ?- no idea

perhaps they started too high with 360 alcoholic drinks and 260 soft drinks. At least I have good memories of handsome mamasan and long long time off.

no , KY for some reason is cheaper in Bangkok

much better than crappy copy in Paris, France

don't even try to make fun of me, LOL Scenario you painted is doable in my opinion but only if airfare available would one I paid for my June or Sept 2017 trip. At rate I paid recently , answer is 'no'. Plus I would need guarantee that M or Jack will be there and knowing how things are in Thailand , specially in view of my Pattaya foray , I wouldn't count on it, but still Art at Nakarat or one of Moonlight models could work as consolation. Thank you for suggestion.

you should be as happy as I was. Let us know how it went. I called it apology but it was rather apologetic acknowledgement that I probably did not like the club which was surprising to me and very nice of him although entirely unnecessary.

I'm sure you wanted to say 'Pattaya is cheaper " which is correct.

nobody wrestled me to pay that much , I did on my own free will. Nothing outrageous, very high and in a sense prohibitive indeed but most likely it reflects fast that those models are not necessarily in need to be offed as they are paid well by the bar and tips plus cuts from drinks are making for steady income. Even cheaper than going to Pattaya is staying at home LOL. But certainly bar needs to watch business as after while novelty of whole endeavor may rub off. On another hand it looks that drink prices in Bangkok went down a bit with 350 first drink at Moonlight and 200 only for a second. Sign at BBB in Boyztown Pattaya says ' 1 drink, 1 show only ' so it signals that nights of nursing drinks whole evening may be coming to an end. But yes , Sunee and Jomtien are still in 100-200 baht territory.

'municipal elections in Burkina Faso " is my speak for small, irrelevant but time filing talk. Sionce hes English was limited we both were spared that effort. You know the drill : " how long you in Bangkok, where you stay, what country you are from etc. " Schnitzel at Maxi's is almost as good as in Alt Heidelberg Pattaya and is served with very tasty and thick mushroom sauce. My standard fare in both places. Pork, I don't eat veal or as my friend says , 'I don't feast on children"

Day 7 Waking up alone – out of 6 nights so far this is third time I suffer such indignity . So it turned that I did not utilize my room at Zing at all other than storing my meager possessions but I kind of liked idea of flexibility two rooms at the same time in two different locations gave me. Specially the cost was not overwhelming and cheapest rooms turned out quite comfortable. For breakfast to one of restaurants on the Beach Road , nice breeze blowing into face but whatever I could have for 100 at Foodland cost me 200 for view and breeze. Then few steps to internet café in soi post office where I got PM from williewillie that Art, may favorite guy from BBB not seen for few months suddenly appeared at BigBoys last night and if I had phone he would alert me about that. Last straw to break my back in Pattaya this trip but what one can do? Collect pieces together, grin and carry on. Than off to Jomtien Complex, fast packing and at noon on the dot I left my room there, walked to bar near bus station to have a beer waiting for my 1 pm bus and at 2.50 pm I was back in Swampy . Train to city was very crowded, almost at capacity leaving airport so I guess quite a few flight must have arrived at the same time. This time my destination was Suriwongse hotel, right opposite of Moonlight. I never stay there overnight but used their short time rooms on ground level on few occasions in the past. Advantage is location in thick of the action , not only for Moonlight but soi Twilight being across the street and still location is in quiet and discreet corner. Very popular at one time , now shows it’s age sand room can use some renovation although washroom part was clearly recently renovated and shiny. No safety deposit box in the room but there are boxes on reception which can be rented for 600 baht / month according to sign. There’s free computer with internet in the lobby as well, breakfast was included and room was spacious enough and clean but lacking tea kettle which was feature all other hotels I stay this trip but I came prepared as I like my tea and always carry immense heater . At first I was not very impressed but after a while I realized I like it and not only because Moonlight is right there but also because location is convenient for other places yet quiet. Raya it is not but at 500 baht less it’s good value for money and chances are it was not my last time there. As always I did my walk around Patpong area , bought few necessities and close to 7 p.m. marched to soi Twilight right to Bangkok Massage where in absence of my regular Namu who went home I asked if Kai is there. Very muscular but with still baby faced guy , known to me from the past entertained me for next 90 minutes with strong and fast paced massage and some other suitable activities , 700 for the house and twice as much for him which made him very happy, ‘really, that’s for me?”. I quoted Oud , my favorite Jupiter boy ‘you happy , I happy” . Smiling I left the place to see paulsf and DivineMadman sitting across the soi in Maxi so I joined immediately. Not before long anddy joined us. Latest news exchanges, schnitzel dinner , some beer , very nice forum reunion indeed ! But as evening was progressing I felt some itching as I had designs for the evening. Of course in close neighborhood , namely Moonlight once more. I liked that adventure with Nicky week ago and was hoping to get acquainted with other models , either Fluke or Sunny, as Numazu says , money be damned. Three gentlemen wished me luck, we made arrangements to meet tomorrow and I sprinted to see what night will bring. Entered bar exactly when show was starting , found a seat , was immediately recognized by one of mamasans who helped me facilitate off with Nicky last time i.e. collected 50 or 100 baht tip then and was probably hoping for the same tonight. As soon as I settled who is rushing toward me, whole in smiles? Nicky himself. Another drink ordered , hands held, heaven is near . What I did not expect was apology as he noted that I probably did not like Japanese club we went to last Saturday but I told him truth, club , experience and food I liked , it was bill which I found excessive but told him not to worry because , which was truth again, I liked him which earned me warm embrace and one needs to see and even more important to feel the guy to understand that it was very pleasant moment indeed. When asked if he will go with me tonight I told him truth that probably not because I want to see somebody else he took it matter-of- factly without any fuss with only comment ‘ may be tomorrow?’ and did not even wait for an answer. Very polite and professional and very , very everything. As time for the models presentation was coming , he finished his drink , collected his 100 tip tucked in his undies and went to prepare himself for a show , his place immediately taken by mamas an standing nearby whom I asked to find if Fluke will be available and willing to go with me. Oiled with red note he left , not to be seen again for a good while but I was occupied with show and model presentation waiting patiently. Show at Moonlight is more revealing that Jupiter one and rigid manhoods are to be seen here and there. Apart from show on the stage I had one in front of me. Middle aged and quite handsome Chinese invited # 15 to seat with him and #15 is man of such good muscular look with manly face they only reason he is not part of model crew must be religious, LOL. It was clear they will go together as shortly he left to dress but not before I satiated myself with view of his broad shoulders and as I said , Chinese guy was good looking as well. Clearly my Guardian Angel rolled his sleeves today as finally mamasan arrived smiling with good news that Fluke will join me soon . After ¼ of eternity i.e few minutes he was right there , wai-ing me politely , I shook his hand , invited him to seat, drink was ordered and nirvana started . Just sitting in close proximity to such a hunk was worth 29 hours of travel, feeling firmly enforced when he placed his hand on my knee and I embraced him with my left arm and placed my right hand on his massive and steely forearm. Getting hot in here but is not my fault that he is very close to what my standard of excellent manframe is. Muscular but not overbuilt, veiny, bit hair here and there, man man. Lots of smiles but not so much of conversation due to his limited English but with municipal elections in Burkina Faso settled I could use some time of quiet admiration specially that my question ‘ are you going with me ? ‘ was understood and answered with unqualified YES immediately . “How much you want ? “ was met with shy smile and this is all I wanted to know. I couldn’t wait to leave but having good heart and using mamasan to translate I told him that if he has show I will wait for him because he is so handsome I don’t want take him from other patrons. It was good move as both seem to be pleased with what they heard and I was not BS at all although I was not entirely altruistic either. Imagine boost to my self –esteem to be seen sitting in company of such a specimen in a packed bar, full if envious eyes . So he left me for a while but now I was in mood I could wait for hours watching stage with go-gos , all very carefully selected and of great masculine looks. Fluke’s number was first in second show and soon after he came dressed so 1000 baht off fee paid along with bin content . It was quite a bit , off fee plus 3 drinks but expense was last of my mind as dream finally came true and I liked feeling of anticipation what’s next. I had my share of stars which turned out losing shine fast in the room. When we were leaving another mamas an came to Fluke telling him somebody is interested but he pointed at me, quite a contrast with goings 2 days ago at BBB. Trek to the hotel was extremely short and before I could whisper ’ thank you Guardian Angel” we were in the room. Finally ! No problem showering together , no problem with anything. Great look, great built everywhere and great attitude. And good upbringing. We showered together but I finished first , he was still soaking but when I left washroom he closed door, out of habit I guess. The same repeated when we were done and took shower again. Sure he likes girls better confirmed when asked but ‘boys like nit noy” he smilingly acknowledged. No attitude, no time watching ,no rush it look that those Moonlight models are keeping some standard because Nicky was the same and alizizou had identical impression Just by length of this story you can sense that it was night to remember. Of course I tried to convert it to long time but he declined , from translation on the phone I understood he has either job or something to do in the airport area at 9 in the morning so I resigned to my fate of sleeping in empty bed but warmed by such magnificent hunk. Substantially poorer but immensely happier I slept like a baby finishing day 7 sweetened by both Kai and Fluke. Who would have think that 2 days ago I was swearing never to return. Long live Thailand! Even now, week later I’m smiling typing that.

But I do as in such case it's not only me who is pissed off but also most likely some other boy who could get my business but he did not and likely went home empty handed ( I had an eye on ABomb guy sitting outside but went for known quality, better idea I thought ) while I was waiting in vain. Yes business is business but promise is promise, specially when made to known client with proven track record. Going for smoke just to announce that arrangement just made is null and void is another way of saying 'fuck you ' in my books. On short trip where time is very limited such manipulations hurt even more. I don't hold grudges but don't expect to be happy when guys are putting me in my place in such manner, after all I had my choices too. Take Oud on day 2 who was waiting for me till bar almost emptied just because I told him I will come for him that night and I did, God and ChristianPFC my witnesses.

it will be one of those life mysteries as I know him for years and idea of long time came from him. I had few good experiences with second chances and both guys were my previous encounters so why not ? No, they both deserve repeat but that whole debacle was mightily upsetting. As I said already , I'm there for good time , not to get even but on another hand there are other fish in the sea not to mention other sea / Bangkok/ which this time beat Pattaya big time after a few trips where she was clear winner.

Day 6 I slept not only soundly but unusually long. It was 9.40 when sound of drilling wake me up. There’s ongoing renovation in Ambience and can’t say it was unreasonable- construction noise at that time. Breakfast at Foodland in Royal Garden Plaza and from there I took motorsai for 120 baht to, Mini Siam near North Pattaya Bus station recommended to me by ChristianPFC few days ago . I did not have any big hopes expecting tacky tourist trap but it turned quite enjoyable and easy to navigate with dozen miniature replicas of famous buildings all around the world and from Thailand. Being blessed in the past with opportunity to see most in real of what was shown I must say , pretty accurate replicas with Abu Simbel most impressive but even Ho Chi Minh mausoleum from Hanoi made it’s way there as well as Easter Island heads / moais / planted in the grass almost like on the Rano Raraku volcano slopes. Worth 300 admission and 240 round trip motorsai fare / driver offered to wait for me, I’m not surprised /. Word of warning, there are places to buy refreshmnets and restaurant where one can dine , there’s almost no shade there. Returned to Boyztown and spotted Ko who claimed he was waiting for me last night but when and where remains mystery so he suggested repeat for tonight and I happily agreed , again at midnight. Then I went to Alt Heidelberg for my last Pattaya dinner this trip and again had an option to admire that handsome contractor I saw another day. What a specimen ! Then return to Zing where my suitcase is to prepare myself for night adventures. Upon return to Boyztown I spied Kao at Copa so we had again enjoyable massage session. After that some beer on the terrace waiting for BBB’s 9 pm singing, joined there williewillie and his friend who just arrived and shortly after Keow, one who shamelessly dumped me mid-bar last night passed by , smiled at me so I decided to dump any grudges and waved him over to join me for a drink . How one can be upset with such a hunk ! I’m not sure who raised going with me option but it was fast tracked , we finished our drinks , shake hands with Williewillie and his friend and disappeared inside Ambience for very steamy session, unfortunately short time only as he was not interested in long time even if I raised an option. But great time it was , fitting redemption of last night’s mishap. At 11.20 pm I was in the soi again, no Ko in sight, went even to Copa to see if he is with client perhpas but no sign of him but still hoping I decided to shorten wait by taking on Castro show. 160 baht drink, well positioned chair and almost full house. I saw it many times but it was quite enjoyable and funny, patrons distributed a lot of tips and drinks to performers and one of waiters was really cute, fact noticed not only by me as later one he went with some farang as I , still waiting for no-show Ko was watching. No idea what happened but at 2 am after watching whole soi to go to sleep I gave up waiting and went to 7/11 to chill myself with ice cream. Few massage guys were still sitting at Scandic including my old acquaintance Yut who did not waste much time and start pimping me one of their boys, slim and quite good looking. Keen on some consolation I gave up to temptation, I liked guy and I like when they try to help each other, paid 400 fee and took guy with me upstairs. Not much massage and he declined to stay till morning but was clingy and pleasant enough to earn promised 1000 baht tip. And so day 6 and my last night stay in Pattaya were over.

I'm not that harsh, after all no-shows are ones who weren't paid yet. If they don't want contract, fine with me. Doesn't make me happy but I let them go. But I expect them to keep promises at least of showing up for appointed time and if something doesn't work, accept it with the same grace I do, not to make condemning faces. Guy who will not take my proposal is not my enemy and I don't want to be his, just because for one reason or another he is pricing himself above market segment I'm in. All boils down to a basic decency.

soi 6 - Super A, Golden Cock and New Nature Boys

some people are not big fans of shopping in the dollar stores

the same here and even more, guy I consider my best ever, One, Lao star of my Dec 2014 trip was from there. Offed few more , Lao and Viet boys, not as excellent as him but still good or good enough. Screwboys have soft spot in my heart , that's sure thing.

it was exactly why I was so upset with series of such unfortunate events , one after another. As much as I like my boys , since I'm one who hires them, I don't feel like I'm one who is supposed to find them expecting guy to be there as agreed and if he is not , after reasonable time, but no more then 1/2 hour I feel I'm free of any obligation. I'm not travelling that far to call a day , there are always other options and opportunities. as with trying tomorrow, wait for next installment of my story. As I said above , I';m not there to get even , I'm there to get a guy.

they would be stupid not to try and if I'm not in offing mood usually at one point I tell them that so they can release themselves from my company if they feel like trying other opportunities.

isn't it logic and self-explanatory? You don't buy them drink , they read it as ' leave me alone" which is exactly my intention in such a case. So we are left alone and they look for other opportunities, hardly reason to blame them in my books

on my way but still one more day in Pattaya

too late , too too late for me

Day 5 I already mentioned that I did few stupid things for this trip, forgetting ATM cards was main. Senility must be setting in or who knows what because shortly after I booked my flight I got e-mail from Expedia offering very good rates for Zing in Jomtien Complex so I booked two nights and forgot about whole thing. Rest of bookings were done shortly before trip and of course I rolled over all 8 nights booking 2 night in each of 4 hotels- Baan Silom, Classrooms, Ambiance and Suriwongse. Thanks to that for night 5 and 6 I found myself in possession of two rooms , at Ambiance and Zing. Sure I could cancel Ambiance one as Zing was non –refundable but for 21 or 22 $ per night I decided to keep both and see what happens but Zing was my new base camp because of proximity to Jomtien’s airport bus station. So in the morning at 11 we are leaving our bed and I’m telling my guest that I’m moving to Jomtien in 1 hr. It turned out that we are going together as this is where he lives in one of side sois. I travel lightly so packing did not take much of an effort and shortly we were marching to baht bus. There was another guy smiling at me for reason unknown but shortly I learned that he is friend of my companion and remembers me from Dreamboys visit two days ago as he works there as barker. Also Cambodian, so good English spoken, we had some conversation and at destination I invited both guys for a breakfast in Norwegian restaurant outside of Complex. Ample servings and not even 500 baht for 3 of us, drinks included , good value. Then he went his way and my guy offered to carry my suitcase , whole 8 kg of her , rolling on the wheels, to my new room in Zing. Of course couldn’t just dismiss him right there so we had a brief horizontal session without any sensations but lots of body contact and of course additional note slipped into his briefs. It was actually very pleasant idea. It looks that we spent together more than 12 hrs , one of my longest offs ever. I found Zing very good value with good sized room , some toiletries, tea kettle, efficient A/C , working room safe and discreet entry directly from the street , bypassing reception. Apparently it’s no longer gay hotel but almost all guests I saw were men only anyways. In the afternoon I went back to Pattaya, in Boyztown had some chat over drinks with Kao the masseur in Copa, had chance of shake hands with aussie_ who was just passing by. Then I went to Pattaya Night Market to buy a shirt and shorts / 630 both / and then returned to Boyztown via DasBerliner restaurant in soi 11 or 12 where I had a dinner recalling my time there with biguyby few months ago as he was one who introduced me to a place. In Boyztown I claimed my another room , in Ambiance and nobody on reception even blinked an eye that I have no luggage at all , other than toothpaste and brush. Again their cheapest room is very good value with all amenities including , God knows why , two working safes. Only bit chilling was fact that owing to renovation there were was actually access to stairs on the 1st floor, just an elevator . But window opened so I thought , in case of need I just jump from the window. If you recall I had long time promised for tonight by guy from Copa. But it was still early so right after BBB singing and clapping I went to Nice Boys in order to keep my promise to take # 30 home. Boys were already on the stage doing their usual motions and my guy , seeing me was visibly relieved. I called him from the stage right away but decided to have some fun before fun starts so called few boys , one by one to distribute several 20-40-50 baht tips in exchange for a feel . One of boys actually suggested he will go with us but dropped an idea when I told him that I only take two guys if one f**ks another. Again it was fun being there. Then we took sontaew to Zing for our short time fun. It was not that short and plenty of fun although I had an impression he was a bit less clingy than in the bar yesterday when he was perhaps trying to land an off. But this is digression as he was a great companion. I did not try to convert to long time because I had that promise from Ko. So we went back to Pattaya, him to his bar probably and me to Boyztown where Ko was nowhere to be seen even if we agreed at midnight’ s meeting. In meantime I got full of disgust look from Dom who certainly considers me very cheap and perhaps , after all stinky and after sending that angry eye toward me he disappeared inside of hotel. After ½ hr waiting for Ko in wain I decided to step inside of BoyzBoyzBoyz where midnight show was on. Tipped friendly mamas an 100 baht to find me Keow, the hunk of Moonlight model quality. Known to me from previous arrangements although when he joined me in a minute it took some explanation to help his memory to recall me or at least he pretended to . Definitely sitting next to such awesome body with option to hug it tightly warrants a drink and as it turned out shortly , another one at 350 a piece. Short time negotiated , agreed smilingly and then after a while he asked for permission to go out and smoke. Upon return I was hit with news that he will not go with me tonight because he has another client. Been there , done that in May 2015 at Tawan so upsetting sense of déjà vu hit me immediately but really what , other than resigning to my fate could I do ? I’m in Thailand to get a guys , not to get even. But mightily upset I was , finished my beer and left bar soon to cool down by taking stroll to Walking street and back . Returned to the soi well past 2 but still it was some activities included two masseurs on duty in the hotel. One closer was quite attractive so I asked about completing the night together but firm 4000 all inclusive quitation chilled me a bit and no yield was forthcoming so we settled on massage at 1900, house charged included. Great body but not much of massage other than caressing my back with one hand as he was keen on getting to serious part ASAP . It was 4 when he left and I went to bed cursing Thailand and her boys, vowing not to put my foot here again. Yes , honest to God I did that, but seriously , after getting angry looks from one , previously handsomely paid guy, with another one no-show for a long time appointment , third one dumping me mid-bar and massage boy with great body not even interested in massage what I was supposed to do? Sing? So it was how day 5 finished but still , after all that upset and cursing I slept soundly.

by 1000

Day 4 After A left I went to internet café in soi post office and on approach I saw owner standing outside of shop gesturing toward me. He told me that inside is really smelly farang but I braved myself in as place is big enough. There was some stench of unwashed clothes and body but I had something to do, so as they say ,I held my nose. Then some stroll along Beach Road and at one point I landed at Alt Heidelberg for my schnitzel lunch and beer and I happened to come in very opportune moment as owner was discussing some business with , I presume, contractor who was young guy of outstanding handsomeness. That is the beauty of Thailand – you have eye candy everywhere. Yesterday Japanese tourist , today local. Feast for eyes and soul and all for free with bonus of smile I earned when they were passing by going outside. Then I think jet lag did not gave in so I went to hotel for 2-6 pm power nap. At 8 I was supposed to meet aussie_ at Salt and Pepper near Tukcom so I decided to use that as excuse to get massage at Royal House. Guy I picked up was not available unfortunate as he had bandage on his wrist as result of motorbike accident of course. But there was smiling substitute right beside and off we went for pleasant session , 400 for the house and 1100 for the guy. We finished right on time so I could be at restaurant at 8 on the dot. After we had our fill , no prize for guessing what I had, LOL then we went to Sunee with first stop at Double Shot which hired recently few new employees and good looking ones indeed. Then next stop at Winners , few patrons including one of our board members flanked by boy on each side, about 8 boys on the stage. Drink 80 baht , boy drink 130 so I invited one to sit with me for a while. On departure few boys got a tip and we had short stroll to Nice Boys. That is bar with fun inside indeed, several boys on the stage , mostly smiling while working on their appendages as from time to time patrons were calling them over for a fast feel and a tip. Some were already sitting with customers earning their tips by allowing indecent touches and more. This is not a bar for shy people, that’s for sure Since number 30 had already sizable endowment in full rigidity I decided to call him over for a time I’m in the bar and it was pleasure getting hold on very shapely and sizable cock supplemented with kiss from time to time. I had other designs for tonight I told him I will take him home tomorrow . In meantime , to fit with other patrons I called other guys for a quick feel for a tip. Lots of smiles there and few very shapely guys including one with very firm butt, pure pleasure to touch . Very pleasant evening and thank you to aussie_ for dragging me in . At one point he left me there but williewillie appeared around the same time so forum was well represented that nice night at Nice. Tipped by hard companion very generously but well deserved, repeated see you tomorrow and went to Copa for massage. Right in front on duty was Dom, one of handsomest masseurs I ever saw and dealt with – we had long time in June so I expressed desire to see him again but he kept very firmly his quote of 3000 all inclusive for massage , I guess firmness being result of recent Chinese wave so I passed that opportunity if only because Ko , veteran of my many massage appeared so I had an option earning me angry look and as I learned nasty comment from other guy. He labeled me ‘stinky’ which I take as ‘stingy’ as I was rather showered not long ago after massage and evening was not that hot . Ko massage is of great energy so he mutilated me with gusto earning 1500 tip and I earned promise of long time for tomorrow night. Since it was almost midnight I went to new bar, Big Boys for their midnight show. Lots of lipsync singing by ladyboys and man show by the same guys who are performing in Dreamboys show. Refreshing change was mamasan, very tall and handsome, bit pushy but because of his looks he is forgiven. First time since I don’t know when it was actually pleasure to have mamas an company. Not that he worked in vain, I liked few of their boys in line up, particularly # 11 and #4 and both of them were actually smiling at me so it was only matter of time and some deliberation who will get tip 100 baht / # 11 / and who will go with me, # 4 was a winner. 100 baht tip for mamas an for his troubles and my pleasure, my drink 260, boy’s drink 360, truly Bangkok level, off fee 500 and expected tip 2000. As yesterday, world saw me and a boy dining at metal tables and again it was a bit costly at 750 for both of us. But it was worth as my companion , the Cambodian proved very engaging and enjoyable so we converted into long time and it was great idea as it was 11 am next day when we finally decided to change positions from horizontal to vertical . This is how day 4 , breaking point of my short trip finished.