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basically yes minus that garland. quite a few times I visited bar or massage to see guy I had designs on already walking out or sitting with somebody else. Or having day of , just on that day I was there. So I learned that while dreams and plans are good one must live with disappointments and have plans B , C and D handy . Another source of stress is to discover that boy I liked before doesn't seem to be that attractive anymore or opposite, becomes too overbearing or too jealous like I was owned by him. Happens rarely but it does.

...or even worse, you will see him , draped with 100 baht notes garland, sitting with another customer,

sometimes it goes to extreme, I recall night at Tawan , bar packed for the show with 1-2 chairs left and stampede out after last accords of music me alone with all that big men , not that I complain

in my not so humble opinion always is the best time to visit bar , show or not

I have cure for that too - start molesting her, placing your hand strategically usually removes her and her attention right away. But I'd add D. category - some mamasan seems attractive and witty and are offing potential, the same with doormen, I still have some hots for HotMale bandanna barker

in cases of overbearing mamasans I usually say I like girls better, they don't believe it but seem to get message right away and faces are saved

I like to hear that, past was great but present is always greater for that very reason that is present

nothing wrong with being friendly with mamasans but remember that on vacations its' you who is supposed to set agenda , good thing that encounter with model went well

don't worry , I always overspend on my first night too. There's no night like first night !

face quite handsome but too skinny for me to let him to steal my ( non existing ) wallet

good luck and hope you both have fun

hope you had fun there

Try to locate XBoys on the map, Dreamboys is just across the soi from them , just like it was in soi Twilight RIP

there are 3 parallel sois with boys bars in Pattayaland area, Boyztown with BBB , Cupidol, Toy Boys, Ambiance , Copa, new Music Barand some other venues, then theres soi where ABomb now, under renovation is and next soi with XBoys and Dreamboys as well as Kawaii if there ares till opened, all withing 3 minutes walk and easy to locate. I'm still to meet motorsai driver who wouldn't know where Pattayaland is

beauty of Thailand is that such a dreams can be relatively inexpensively readily materialize. 2000-2500 and you are in NIrvana

and you not alone, rest assured

I stay in Zing , Ambiance and Classrooms and all are very good value for money, can't recall noise problems in neither one , nor in Copa-across from Ambiance. Classrooms rooms are spacious thus justifying higher price than other two . In Ambiance I tried all grades of rooms from standard to penthouse suites and I can't say I find 5x price difference justified although penthouses have better views

yes , no better thing than be motivated by the deadline , LOL

and 2 weeks before you report back ?

all that is precisely the reason Jupiter is not my favorite bar although I like look of their guys, I treat it the same way as window shopping

we are all lining up to thank you for a downgrade, LOL

so about the same time Roman empire collapsed

so what you like? You just said in another thread that you don't frequent Jupiter as well. Nothing wrong with being, say on Tawan or Screwboys monodiet, I tried it myself and kind of liked it so just asking

or they did but keep quiet, the same with closeted gays - when we finally come out most people say we know it for long time already

also calculator is handy for bargaining when there's language barrier for the same reason