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if somebody did it at Foodland Patpong I would be upset but at Starbucks they can have their space for as long as they want

all that bar survey was spontaneous decision for a sake of it, not for lack of suitable companions - #19 and #7 from Screwboys would do in instant. In fact in every bar was at least one whom I could off. Had night been longer I'd continue but closing times forced me to make a move, LOL I had only one case of emotional good bye and it was not even in the morning-I usually depart in dead of night, and it did not worked out well next trip as boy tried to claim ownership of me with scene when I offed somebody else. On the first night I try to have somebody new , on the last - whoever comes along , again I'm not a doctrinaire. I learned my lessons , often boy I'm dreaming to return to next trip turns up to be gone or not as attractive as my memory cherished or gave me cold shoulder. Good example was that trip reported above and first entry to BBB Pattaya. I was hoping to see certain Bank and he seems to be gone for good, Keow I had good time with in September did not seem to recall me at all even if his bar friend Art remembered and reminded him that I offed him for a whole night. Both Arts were true stars of this trip but I'm fully mentally prepared that next time , whenever it will be they may be gone or not available. I will lick my wounds and move on as always, LOL.

I like to be on the road as much as reach destination it's why my hotel hopping habit - just substitution of being on the move. Going through 8 bars like last night is not what I normally do as it it ruinous in Bangkok but it was spark of the moment decision just to utilize last night in full. Had I seen in any of them boy I'd fell instantly in the love with I'd stop all that jumping but it was fun ending in discovery completely new bar as we saw. I'm firmly in hunks camp but if suitable twink comes along I'm taking him , I'm not a doctrinaire and smile does more for me that body. I will not argue about twinks being more affectionate as there's some merit in it but most affectionate from them all I recall was a hunky hunk , long gone One from Screwboys ( refer to my Dec 2014 trip report, LOL ).

Day 12 continued Blend of unexpected visitor, family function and FIFA World Cup in Russia lead me to some interruption in narrative of day 12 for a few days. After finishing our pizzas at Madrid Tavern Christian PFC and I set for some bar tour as usual , this time our first stop was new bar G-Boy beside Wall Street Hotel in Wall Street soi , just opposite of soi Twilight. Spacious bar , only few customers but it was early. Boys almost exclusively twinks but quite a few quite easy on the eye so there’s potential there . After finishing our drinks next stop –Screwboys in Patpong 2. Quite a few clients , several boys on the stage or sitting in front of it, few still arrived during our time there so we camped there good hour even if none of us had any intention to off at that hour. Being charitable I had invited boy # 19 just for a drink and sit up with me, then #7 looked familiar and attractive so I sent #19 back to a stage and asked mamas an what is # 7’s name - Yoyo, then I knew where familiarity is coming from , in Dec 2016 I stopped in Bangkok on my way to Cambodia and he was my off on second night. It was nice to refresh my recollection of his silky skin for a price of drink and some tip and I started thinking that it would be nice to see him in the room setting tonight, my last night this trip. But in meantime we had bar hopping to continue so next stop was above – new Fresh boys located on second floor. For a time there are two Fresh Boys bars in Bangkok as original one is still in operation. Big bar but needs some time to be used fully, perhaps 8-10 boys on the stage, all twinks and only one other customer. Christian decided right away , there’s nothing for him, we shook hands for the last time this trip as I decided to stay, ordered drink and soon after show started even if were only 2 of us in the audience , 3 more customers were dragged in while later. Some lip-sync singing and quite erotic shower number with impressive tool poking out of one of performers briefs. Right after show I left heading to Classic as I, heated by three bars visited so far I decided to do survey of as many as I can tonight. Downstairs I spotted Yoyo who was heading to buy some food and immediately planted himself beside me on my way to the soi. As much as I liked to see him again bar hopping with bar boy is not my idea of fun in Bangkok specially on his agenda so unfortunately he forced me to ignore his presence although it was just in front of Classic when he finally got a message and disappeared. Dozen boys on the stage in Classic, twinks again , I recognized few familiar faces from the past and one of them stood a chance but unfortunately he did not pay any attention to my presence due to a first row of seats taken by some Chinese girls. Mamasan was trying his trick to generate an off but tonight I was firmly on bar hopping mindset to after 20 minutes or so I marched to original Fresh boys in soi Twilight passing by former XSize with boarded door and Dreamboys I visited already this trip. I had some fun with their boys in the past but none of two was in attendance tonight and boys on the stage , again all twinky types did not generate more interest than my customary 100 baht tucked into undies of one I considered most attractive, lots of those tonight with all bars visited but this is what I consider part and parcel on my bar experience in Thailand. Next stop XBoys but by passing Bangkok massage I exchanged few words , laughs and a hug with my regular from there – Namu. XBoys personnel did not generate more than passing glances from me – twink galore again , just enough to finish my drink , tip one boy and move over across and upstairs to HotMale where big cock show was in it’s finishing stage but ever since my faith in those was shaken by discovering artificial one attached to BBB Pattaya boy while ago I stopped tipping those performers unless in know them from the past. It was several customers in attendance and few offs were finalized as it was almost closing time. 1 a.m. and I’m still empty handed when comes to bed warmer tonight so I resolved to visit Screwboys again but on my way almost got derailed by another twink sitting on steps of bank who took my hand and said ‘ l go with you? “. Had he been a bit meatier and older he would stood a chance but not tonight. I thought about two boys I had sitting with me at Screwboys earlier , despite Yoyo’s antics memory of his silky skin was still warming me but all those plans were derailed on approach as just past Screwboys I noticed balloons and a sign “Tokyo Boys” never seen before so I braved in. Very small bar with only few seats actually facing bar nor a stage in the back so bit of awkward sitting arrangement but 10 or so boys on the stage looked attractive, specially one numbered 29 who was actually standing almost in front of me. Ladyboyish mamasan immediately joined me to learn that due to my saturation with drinks after such intensive survey tonight I don’t want drink but will buy one for her. Drink 380 which considering Screwboys next door is offering for 300 and has a show was priced steeply but immediately I learned that it’s their very first day of existence so was mightly thrilled I can contribute to their well being, In meantime # 29 is still standing and smiling , clock is ticking and it’s past 1 a.m. , my last Bangkok morning is approaching rapidly and I don’t even have drink to finish so waved him over, asked about long time, agreed immediately so I told mamasan I’m taking him and few seconds later loud applause was heard as she announced that new bar’s first off ever was just paid / 600, again too steep in my opinion /. It was another quite meaty boy in the audience so he got my 100 baht , in meantime my boy dressed up and we walked to my hotel where reception did not pay any attention to us waiting for an elevator. Handsome faced Cambodian turned out to be quite skinny to my liking but was tall, smile never left his face , had all other attributes well in place and turned out very warm and clingy so my last long time off this trip was very, very pleasant and due to lack of window seeping daylight in the morning turned out to be no –rush one. This is how day 12 finished.

I still carry with me "Bangkok bus guide" which in fact is just a map but I find it's indispensable to find places. I like to walk , sometimes at long distances despite of BKK heat as for me it's best way of exploring city.

my tactic is such a cases is to tell them " I like girls" and it universally works even if they know me very well from previous visits in bar - clearly signals to them you don't want to be harassed, even mamasans at Tawan where I offed dozen or so guys , most of them multiple times they get it and pull back

and we shouldn't forget most of those touts are offable and usually they are veterans of business so may quite entertaining in the room even if they are past of their prime.

Yes, still is but there are reports they are some renovations planned by the new owner so who knows, by Christmas they may be back in business

welcome to the forum all shows start between 10 and 10.45, times var by the bar. I think Hot Male show starts at 10. Touts may appear intimidating for uninitiated but they are harmless at end of day. Screwboys at Patpong has show at 1 a.m.

yes and sooner the better please and thank you for that heart warming photo of soii Twilight entry

can't agree more being great fan of them , particularly Lao labour

truth is any hotel located in that square Silom-Narathiwas-Surowong-Rama IV is unbeatable location, short walk to / from whatever we REALLY need

Jump on the aircraft and fly to get them !

Day 12, part 1 After Phet left I returned to still warm bed and slept soundly till almost noon. Nothing wrong with that as one of my few Thailand problems is self-inflicted sleep deprivation but after 2 nights, true to form I’m moving hotels again so barely had enough time to gather my goods before reception called and reminded me that I should release room. This time I marched to D’Varee Baily Silom , just beside DJ Station steps from everywhere, one of those places location can’t be beaten. I never slept there but actually was inside few years ago when my friend Xiluzer stay there and remembered that some rooms are windowless. I did not expect anything better as I booked cheapest room and true to form I got room without the view. Bit claustrophobic but otherwise well appointed and very modern so no complains although I missed spaciousness of my previous digs this trip at Copa, The Venue, Ambiance , Classroom and Baan Silom but for just one night ( tomorrow I will leave just before midnight so took room for 2 nights for convenience ) it was nice to try something new. After settling in I relized that it’s almost 1 p.m. and I did not eat anything since last evening’s Mango Tree feast but Guardian Angel had another plans for me. Passing by mouth of soi 4 few times among boys from Nakarat massage trying to sell their his massage skils I noticed pretty faced and well muscled boy and now , seeing he is there I couldn’t pass an opportunity. His name – Art , the same like my favorite BBB boy promised something I may like . 1 hr 450, don’t recall if they have minimum tip policy, he sent me off to the shower in corridor and shortly after , as soon as he started massage I knew I’m in good hands. Strong and fast strokes, he knew his stuff. When pointed to him my sore spot on my right shoulder , he spent good 10 minutes on it until pain was gone. All this while dressed in t-shirt and shorts . In beginning I usually behave and was so this time as well but after a while I coincidentally touched his knee and then again and again so he felt compelled to ask me what more I want. Asked him to take off his shirt to reveal very muscular torso and his chest muscle was steely hard. More so than even on Tawan boys so obviously he takes his exercises seriously. When proclaimed need of him to remove his shorts question came “ how much you give me?”. Since 1000 baht for 1 hr naked massage is my regular tip and neither massage not boy was anything close to regular I whispered 1500. He suggested 2000 but somehow I maintained my sanity and confirmed 1500 offer ,accepted immediately as it was clearly fishing. Normally I’d say ‘ fishing for an idiot” but not in this case. He is worth his weight in gold just for his looks thought I. So we got more intimate and it was one those ‘ this minute please last forever” moments. What a boy ! Only problem with worshiping his body was that he is ticklish but we found the way of handling that. At end I handled him his tip to a smiling reaction “ many money” so clearly he was happy although I doubt as happy as me. Sent me to shower alone as Nakarat likes to keep appearances apparently , then I got glass of warm tea, paid 450 for massage and was on my way whole in smiles . Passerby on the Silom noticed that and said “happy, happy” looking at me , go figure. One of those moments when one knows why spends time and money to fly that far . Now , about 2.30 p.m. and I’m still running on my Mango Tree diesel but spied that Tapas restaurant in soi 4 is opened so went there. Ordered whatever took my fancy , 3 different tapas ( Spanish snacks) including small bowl of gazpacho cold soup , very delicious. Not particularly cheap , 380 with draft beer but very tasty , I feel I add that restaurant to my 4 obligatory food stops in Thailand. Had some internet business to take care of so went to café beside Silom Complex and then , energized by such good massage with Art got that moment of enlightenment, jumped on BTS and went to My Hero. I had privilege to be one of last customers of old Hero on their closing day and one of first when location opened as My Hero and was curious how it is now. As always I walked there from Nana station. House very classy and spiffy, about 20 boys behind the glass, new mamasan but that Friday afternoon I was only client. I recognized at least 2 boys from old Hero, both were smiling and pointing at themselves but this time I decided to break my ‘look for a smile “ rule because at from in jeans only was muscular and handsome faced hunk with nice tattoo and sculpted short cropped hair, second top of the line male specimen today I had a chance to put my hands on and I was determined not to waste such opportunity. As soon as I selected him , smile appeared . 1.5 hr massage 1100, minimum tip 1500. Room very clean with own glassed shower, he asked me to shower , than showered alone but did not mind me wetting my hand just to caress his sculpted butt. Vietnamese, named something like Hyunh, tall and as said well built. Very serious massage and very enjoyable fun after. Heavens are smiling at me this afternoon, two great looking, well behaving dream boys in row. Life is great, it really is thought I. I was running bit late for a meeting with Christian PFC at Madrid Tavern and as usual in such cases my train got stuck between stations for good 10 minutes so I arrived 15 minutes late but Christian graciously did not say a word of condemnation so we went inside for a treat of their pizza, ordering two different and splitting them in half between us as usual while trading latest news and planning evening for our customary bar hopping which with him is very easy as chances we will be fighting over the same boy are next to none my favorites being invariably ‘too fat ‘ for Christian. Day 12 to be continued but it may be short break in posting

nice to listen to a professional customer, this is exactly how it works everywhere not only in Chiang Rai. Who knows perhaps Man from now defunct Fan Massage in soi Convent, Chiang Rai native and one of best boys I ever met is still in the business in his hometown? Then OP would hit a jackpot or rather manpot.

I liked and will be missing The Electric Blue bar sign " many beautiful girls and few ugly ones" . At 1700 for 250g steak I rather add another 1700 and have long time with owner of real meat from one of three boy bars further in the alley, but taht's me, lover of 65 baht breakfast at Foodland patpong

it's about time as not only trains but also platforms, specially on the Siam station are getting dangerously crowded in rush hours

get better fast as it's very unhealthy to be sick. Please read reader's post right under yours as many times as you need to memorize it as he had spoken for many if not for all of us , contributors and readers here. Nothing wrong with switching to Taiwan but if you do , keep us posted. And I bet you will miss Thailand not before long - you are just too close to her to avoid temptation of short flight and being there again

nothing wrong with that and there's room for more, boys need to earn a living somehow and from my observation while mainlanders are not offing that much they are good tippers, I never saw farang tipping boy 1000 baht for just being on the stage but saw Chinese , both ladies and a guy doing that.

surely I agree although like with any other purchase sometimes , mercifully rarely, we don't get what we expect but that's the risk of dealing with real people who may have their own priorities. Thankfully that trip was free of disappointments and stressful encounters although few of them, specially massages were kind of lackluster, paid, consumed and forgotten encounters. But one can't avoid it on very intensive but short vacations.

so how was Arena ?

Kim Jong Un ? No , too fat

Day 11 As usual for my long time offs I invited boy for breakfast in my usual Foodland Patpong location but not before I secured him for 5 p.m. short time discussion of world peace. Then he went his way and I started tourist program, hop on BTS to Saphan Taksin pier , from there 50 baht one way cruise to Phra Athit terminal pier for Chao Praya Tourist boat. Bit more expensive than perhaps 10-15 baht on regular commuter boat but I like guaranteed seat and more leisurely pace of tourist boat. By the way for 120 there’s unlimited day usage with as many stops as one can wish for. Bit of cloudy weather and still pleasant temperatures so it was nice to have a seat on top , roofless deck. My destination today is Bank of Thailand Museum and learning center by Rama 8 bridge , recently opened in former banknote printing facilities across the street from another Bank of Thailand Museum in old place – that one I visited in Sept last year. There’s a bit of walk from pier through maze of sois but that one of pleasures of vacationing - no rush exploring here and there. There are guided tours but unfortunately last one already departed and next one was scheduled in 2.5 hrs but somehow I persuaded them to let me in ( there’s no admission fee ) and even got a bit of guided tour by nice lady who showed me around , explained how security printing of banknotes works , showed me presses still loaded with sheets of banknotes, proudly showed me 500 baht note from series 11 emission ( 1975 on to 1988 ), first entirely designed and produced by Thais and even explained how to get free 2 hr internet access in the library. Very pleasant mid-day time in air conditioned and not crowded environment. Returned using the same boat but not before leisurely wandering through Bangalampu’s sois and river bank. Before 5 parked myself in front of hotel, waiting for Boonthon who arrived on time for short but intensive session of admiration of his carefully sculpted muscled body and after dark, around 7 we both felt a bit of hunger (again , other than few ice creams from 7/11 I did not eat anything since breakfast ). He suggested Oasis where we were dining together last time but I had that urge to try Mango Tree , just around the corner from his bar Tawan and this is where we went. It’s amazing that such classy restaurant is located in very , very ordinary back soi and even more amazing was to discover that it was almost full that Thursday evening – without reservation we got one of two remaining free tables. Placed our orders for three Thai treats – can’t recall what it was because I really was hungry but it arrived fast , portions were generous and served in style – some stew with mango was served in drilled ananas. In short very, very fine dining experience, perhaps none of us needed such opulence but it was nice to see , try and taste. Bill was tasteful as well -1629 baht , 129 more than my first long time at The Venue, Jomtien earlier this trip cost me but it was worth a try. Even if service charge was included in the bill boy reminded me to leave some tip to server so another 100 baht was added. Boonthon went to his bar with mission to remind Phet tonight is his turn to put me to a sleep as yesterday’s draw loser and I wandered through Patpong back and forth , it was almost 9 p.m. when I got that urge to go to Senso and see if M will be there. Quite a late but I was relieved to see sign on the door they are opened till 11 so I entered just to see smiling M right in front of me. Other boys did not stand a chance as I motioned to him we will go upstairs immediately. I did good deed as it turned out today was extremely slow day , me at that late hour being their second only client. We were talking about chemistry in the tread recently and sure we had one with M. I like his massage, his muscular and hairless body and even sound of his voice, he must like my tips and fact that I like him , he even asked me “ why you like me so much “ , on top of it it’s a pleasure to be with model and pornstar of some GThai series movies and he must be tickled that he has such loyal fan who even knows his real ( or at last stage )name. An no , I’m not waxing anything misty eyed lyrical, I just like him, period. So great session as usual , including long shower together. Senso is costly , 1.5 hr massage costs 1490, minimum tip is 1500 if not 1800, I don’t recall but I gave him 2000 as always and whatever comments others may have , for me it was money very well spent. Glad I helped them on such a slow day. Energized I trekked to Tawan just in time for their show to start at 10.45. Bar was about half full , boys I offed before were surely energized by entry of their trusted ATM so short moment of adoration , my hands wandered here and there tucking 100 to Tiger’s briefs, another 100 in undies of new arrival on the stage I’m eyeing for some time , Dum , dark skinned boy from Issan who looks a bit multiracial got twice 100 , one tucked at front and another in the back but who can resist caressing of such silky skin even for a second. In short financial disaster, pleasant one but also very tiring. I like all my boys there but at times I wonder who is in charge on my pleasures, LOL. Phet , assured his off and Boonthon , well fed already were treated with drinks and show started , I don’t like their pseudo sado/ maso numbers but some cocks sucked were impressive indeed. No f***k show and no j/o finale, according to Phet they stopped it because problem with customers taking pictures. After show short trek to hotel for our share of long time fun and I was curious how it will go this time as my records with my companion over years is kind of mixed, he was one who at one point of time when all was sealed and paid told me he can’t go with me because he must go with another customer . In September on another hand he awarded me offed time as close to a real boyfriend experience as possible , one on best if not THE BEST I ever had in Thailand. Tonight was blend of both , he did not say anything but spent have a bit of time in the bathroom perhaps having some problems but when returned to the bed he was as hot and rewarding as on that memorable September night last year. As early as 6 a.m. he expressed desire to go home to avoid traffic which did not make me happy , I could use more fun this morning but I let him go. When asked for taxi money though, declined firmly offering to change 1000 baht to 10 hundred baht notes is he needs ‘small money’. This did not stop us from having last strong hug this off and this trip and last stolen kiss and this is how day 11 was over.

I'm not so sure, guys full of self confidence tend to steer encounter to their liking not mine. Happen rarely but it does and I wonder then who is in charge of agenda. It's why I like straights, they usually are in business for money and tend to stick to their side of bargain. Stars are good to look at in the bar but often due to their popularity tend to skip on services and , what is important to me, on time as well. Exception worth mentioning is Mekhin , former star of Tawan , now at Jupiter who was surprisingly amendable and easy going and that is impression few others had about him as well. As for walks I tend to be liberal and understand that sometimes boys don't really want to be seen with farang age of their grandfather. Another memorable walk mention already in my reports was with another Tawan boy who asked to go to Raya on another side of Suriowong. On his way he was stopped by at least 3 if not 5 people for a brief chat so I kind of understood why.

and lots of them came from contributors who professed that they don't go to bars anymore because they are boring , costly or both. As we all know predictions are very hard to materialize , specially when comes to predicting the future