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I happened to be there on Vishaka Bucha, May 29th, Pattaya bars were opened but no alcohol was served till midnight so don't worry, just go. One day during trip instead of beer you can drink water, no big sacrifice even for me who considers drinking water animaals only privilege

me too, just 2/10 but at least Uzbekistan included. Lonely planet may have their best 10 destinations, what about vinapu's best 10: 1. BoyzBoyzBoyz, Pattaya 2. Arena Bangkok 3. Senso, Bangkok 4. Tawan , Bangkok 5. Moonlight, Bangkok 6. Abomb , Pattaya 7. Copa massage , Pattaya 8.Jupiter, Bangkok 9. Nakarat massage Bangkok 10. My Hero, bangkok

in meantime watch him , pre-tattoo, here:

there's always tomorrow, forget keys and will , try to see if he will go for 4000 or may be 3500. That body and zero attitude I'd consider it, LOL

thank you, you have a good heart ! As for energy it's probably out of necessity - short 2 weeks can't be spend wasted. But slowdown comes in bits -look at that trip 3 lonely mornings out of 12, not long ago hanging offence for me. Trying to be young at heart but not always works, LOL

congratulations on landing such a gem, I call boys like him worth offing even only for hand holding session - gold medal in my book. ******* you want love in Thailand , rent it , as Gaybutton would remind you

drinking water ? just like animals? **** I agree and too, I'm happy that Chinese discovered boy bars and are marching in. Sure they elbowed us aside but let's be honest , plenty of room to move inside still as long as we have our wallets with us. They may not be offing that much but certainly are tipping lavishly. In my many years I never saw farang tipping boy on the stage 500 or 1000 baht ( I never saw doesn't meant they did not tip that generously) but did saw such generous Chinese, both ladies and guys. Including one boy from Jupiter tipped 1000 just for being there I subsequently offed that night so Chinese -vinapu co-operation kept all 3 parties involved happy and boy occupied.

All my sympathy to you , hope doctors can find what bug is biting you. But did you see a doctor or you try to heal by autosuggestion ? After spending so much time in bed , no wonder you feel weak. Even if you not feeling well try to walk at least around the table for few minutes couple times a day. Do you have somebody who can do your shopping for you ? It would be good if you can eat something fresh from time to time at least. Not only cooked meals but fruits and veggies. Listen to your body signals after your meals. No, you don't need any credit cards not travel cards when you shop locally, just cash and ID. Recover fast but don't run until you are sure you can just walk one step at the time as you discovered on your shopping trip. Forget about fresh flowers for now - you may be allergic to something . If you use water purifier make sure filter is clean, you sound like my friend who got something from residue in the filter. What doctor says?

as both numazu and me mentioned , those models are looking much better in flesh like most of Oriental boys in my opinion. Somehow I'm surprised at distortion photos are making to those guys and I think if I went just by photos I'd never off half of boys I see their pictures on websites and know them from more personal contact. As for charges I agree with you , specially 1500 off fee is taking skin alive without anesthetics but I think logic really is to discourage offing boys who are making enough just by presence in bar and taking part in the show. Bottom line is -go , see for yourself and then decide, like numazu said above , it may be a case of ' money be damned" even if just to satisfy curiosity.

with all that doom and gloom I wonder why I still have so much fun there

beauty is in the eye of beholder and so is gradation of expenses I guess ?

we should be proud that increased tips we are paying are helping Thai economy and in particular boy's families economy spreading world's wealth a tiny bit more evenly. An additional bonus is that most of our money goes directly to recipient with only fraction / off fees , drinks, bar tips / going to middlemen. On even mote serious note out of 4 main expenses categories / flight , accommodation, food and boy tips / in last 17 years I'm coming to LOS, flight costs decreased substantially but surprisingly perhaps my records are showing that item risen the most is accommodation. (I'm comparing apples to apples as I have original invoices from Niagara and Royal Benja hotels , both still well in existence but charging much , much more)

no wonder you find it depressing, how much fun counting unspent money can be?

all overdressed

low season is good as boys are more hungry so to speak and may be more amendable and accessible then when their admirers are crowding around

I still have afresh memory of Moonlight models and agree fully that in flesh they look MUCH BETTER than in the photos. But for me not even close to forking out 1500 off fee neither 4000-5000 tip ( ok , one of them , tattoed , second from left in the back row perhaps warrants 5000 for long time midnight till noon but still not such off fee ). I wish them good luck though. ****** at My Hero 'come 3 pay 2 " rather means that third massage will be free but nothing stops us from crowding 3 boys instead of 2 and ask for a discount. I also noticed absence of Tam #60 , best looking of them all

Soi Wall Street is to the right of Greek temple looking building across the street from soi Twilight. You will be there , you will find it, fairly easy to spot.

tell us something we don't know !

beauty of boy and his skills are important, good shower we can have when back in our room

I love those trip reports we have here and how we look at the same thing and see it differently, no right or wrong , just different. While I'd like to see BBB boys undressed as much as everybody else I must admit I find them looking sexy in all those jeans. Sure when they undress it may lead to disappointment but barely dressed boys when they undress completely my disappoint as well. Boyztown area is diminished indeed but at the same time for my personal use I see more attractive boys there than when I came for the first time , at least that's my impression. That's the reason last trip was my first when I spent more time in Pattaya than in Bangkok. BBB boys fully dressed - not good, Nice Boys , all cocks out, it seems from report , no good either so where we are? LOL , just teasing. I loved vibe at Nice Boys even if boys are not my type, straight or not. If guy from Scandic was indeed Yut I agree he is very personable, spent some time chatting, drinking and dining with him in June but he seemed skinny as before, perhaps I overlooked something ( we had massage as well ). Too bad he is still there as he was hoping to get a factory job from this month on and seemed to look forward to 8-5 schedule. Anyways I wish a447a better luck on the second day in Pattaya and rest of trip. Lovely report and all comments above, thank you all , biguyby you not only one missing Boyztown

perhaps he reasoned that it goes without saying

by time thy demolish clubs you will be very old man. as for changes - don't look for XSize - already boarded but all other bars in soi are working. Visit new bar G-boy across the Suriwong in soi Wall Street. Moonight replaced Boy66 in old Jupiter location. Upstairs from Screwboys is Fresh boys new location and beside Screwboys is new Tokyo boys bar. Have fun and don't forget to report here what you saw.

what movie you are talking about? That's too harsh Sure there are arrogant , lazy and greedy boys but I don't think it's much of correlation between and attractiveness and friendliness and for good reason - while we can generally agree what makes boy friendly, what is attractive is matter of endless contention. You may not even give a second glance to a boy somebody else is dreaming day and night. As for greedy part , if boy is sought after and offed night after night can we blame him for cashing in on his short lived popularity ? We may not be happy and refuse to pay demanded amount but I don't see any entitlement to expect stunner should be be happy with the same amount boy next door with 5 offs a month will be.

Hopefully by tomorrow we will have more good news, 9 still inside

better go tho Thailand and have your own reality shown, recorded or not. As Christian and fedssocr noted above it better not to be distracted by extracurricular activities