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Arena it is, steps from Chong Nonsi BTS. Survey both places in soi Twilight, easy to be done while having beer or dinner across the soi . Give a try to Senso , steps from Sala Daeng and Prince, walkable from Silom to other end of Convent and then to soi SuanPlu In Sukhumvit area try MyHero in soi 11 / Nana / and Banana Club in soi 23 /Asok / you can derail yourself to Urban Male in the same soi.

boss, those two entries are telling you everything you need to know as long as you are one to be soaked. good boys of Good Boys will charge you 300 each and either will take turns or do it at the some time. Yes they speak some basic English but video would help

that's right, no day passes in Thailand without me visiting 7/11 or Family Mart at least once so my sweat is fattening those capitalists as well but their formula of being everywhere and carrying everything we need from lubricant to an ice cream seems to be winning one

many more experienced gay for pay guys are actually very good in finding what you like and delivering it. I know it's not an affection but rather pride of having job done well but I'm taking it. Classic phrase of Jack from Senso when asked what he likes better girls or guys " I like girls but I like hour hand too " always brings smile to my face

I'd not be so cynical. Yes boys are there to make money but also to have some fun. Not different when we are prostituting ourselves to go our jobs. Main motivation is money but we also go for some interaction with clients and co-workers, bit of social life or even like in my case , after work stroll to the train station through very vivid stretch of colorful street my work is located at. You nice to them , they tend to repay with some kindness. Staying with you for some hugs and kisses after you already paid them, offering to stay till morning at no charge or on the way to the hotel dropping by 7/11 to buy themselves some smokes and emerging with a bottle of your favorite milk drink. Been there , done that. I had guy who asked to go with me to Pattaya for 2 days just for a price of off fee from the bar. I thought this rhetorical figure and was prepared to pay and when tried upon return discovered that he really meant what he said . It took a while to convince him I wouldn't feel right having an access to contents of his underwear for two days for free and he took money. I'm not making it up and it was already reported here. So yes , it's about money but in many cases very far from just cold transaction. Often , whether genuine or masterfully faked, attraction is part and parcel of boy's service. One of boys I offed few times asked if he can come next night as well , when I said 'no because I have another boy coming' instead of grimacing sourly he said 'if you happy I happy". I'm not trying to wax lyrical. They can be manipulative and skillful in extracting money from us and it pays to be vigilant and not to fall into misty eyes syndrome but based on my limited experience I can't subscribe to a theory it's all about money. It's perhaps why I return , to spent money but have tons of fun along for it.

then we are waiting for your trip report to be posted in your blog

so it seems everything boils down to timming of arrival

done as suggested

you don't need to wait for the night to sample boys. Some massage places open early as well as you can always arrange with bar boy to come to your room during day to help you with your siesta.

I don't want to spoil party but is such tested vaccine has unexpected positive results isn't it possible that this or other vaccine may have unexpected negative ones? Just asking , no, I'm not member of any anti-vaccine movement, quite opposite I'm well vaccinated against whatever vaccine is available for

good sing when we talk freedoms but not so good when comes to a country as president subject to ridicule is worse then no president at all. I agree with both of you said above but we need to remember that while one person , even president can be ridiculed , millions who voted to him with hope can't. And split of nation right in half is a real fact not even unique to USA as UK, Poland , Venezuela and Brazil seem to be in the same situation those days. Sure , driver who drives car into mass people fits classic definition of mass terrorist in this case and should meet his fate according to whatever local laws are. I'm sure some of his victims are longing for a judge Lynch.

they should be not such words in any travelers vocabulary unless used as excuse when somebody wants to drag you out to place you don't want to see or to meet person you don't want to.

you don't need to wait for the night to sample boys. Some massage places open early as well as you can always arrange with bar boy to come to your room during day to help you with your siesta.

Perhaps they have the same system USA and Canada has - when you are leaving you are not going through immigration / emigration at all, just through security and you are out.

I don't think buying drink or more is a problem or cause of grief. What frequent complaints are is constant pestering by mamasans or sometimes boys planting themselves uninvited to buy them a drink . In such a case I think not as much money is an issue but rather being seen as easy target making this or subsequent visit even worse. I know about some farangs giving certain bars wide berth because of that and while I never had such a problems in bars I know a feeling each time I enter Boyztown. One of boys from Scandic I had massage in the past remembers me and literally hounds me for another round for last 2 or 3 trips.

remind it here closer to your arrival date as we are still couple month from your arrival. Bar hopping with forum members is always highlight of my trips but for that one I can be of assistance as i won't be there.

Boys in brown ie. police may not like an idea without substantial contributions to their tea fund . Boys themselves probably don't mind but they need to know that some money is in such an idea. Why they should like to be touched here and there for free ? Sometimes in bars I see farang with hand in boy's undies and not even boy drink on the table. I assume tip will follow but from various posts on the forums we know it's not always a case. In short , money needs to follow fun.

Welcome back, long time no hear from you ! I guess more than 1 year. Glad to hear parenthood is going very well. As for your question hope numazu will chip in as he has experience for comparison of both. If you have a time read his trips reports from both end of year 2016 trip and Songkran this year which you being busy parent could overlook here.

don't be sorry , we appreciate that you remember about us. I'm sure I speak for many here. Your adventure with ATM chillingly reminds us not to relay on it as a sole source of funds, specially if in foreign country. I had such refusal by ATM in Thailand few times but at least cards were always returned. It's good to have an access to more thank one account just in case i.e. checking account as well as cash advance from credit card or line of credit. Even if everything is set with bank properly we may still have a problem when power goes off or your bank system goes down . Since I went through that including my own country now when travelling on the first day I always put aside some money roughly equivalent of 30-50 USD , in Thailand 1000 baht , always have it on me but it's forgotten till last day. Like you even if everything is prepaid I feel very uncomfortable without some funds on me as one never knows. Great report from Kanchanaburi , way you went , with train is actually more fun than taking van tour from BKK , only advantage of van is that is A/c 'd. Day without boy in bed is OK but night?

Definitely was one at Swampy when I was there in Dec and reason I remember is that even if I'm not ASEAN passport holder I was directed to go there by the barker because nobody was waiting in line there.

not a bad idea to measure digitization by counting numbers of people glued to their phones. But really , what does it change to be first of 17th ? One person more on the smartphone means one less reading paper or a book and even if one is watching porn is still missing sight of all those beautiful bodies passing by. I'm exaggerating a bit for a reason not to save like caveman but to point that while most changes brought by technology are great , not all of them are. Ubiquitous spying or ability to comes to mind first but there are plenty of more mundane things technology changed but not really for a better. Where I live they recently digitalized public transport schedules ie. paper schedules on the bus stops disappeared instead we are asked to use an app to find when next bus is coming. Not a problem for pupils and students but what about their grandmothers heading to a doctor ? Sure one may say they should go with the times and learn how to use it but what about those who can't afford having smartphone subscription ?. Did that change improve bus frequency or punctuality ? No, just schedule become invisible to a many.

I doubt as long as it will be clearly marked "Hong Kong passport holders only". After all such ideas are employer world all over with separate lines for domestic passport holders ,some specials ie. EU or ASEAN passports only and all others. And as Z909 suggested , hire some barkers making sure hordes are standing in proper line . I guess going through fire in zoo on arrival is part and parcel of modern air travel, price we are paying for affordability of tickets but surely some airports are coping better than others. Behavior of passengers counts for streamlining as well, once I was witness of boarding two planes , both the same 767's to two European destinations. It started at the same time and one going to say , destination better known for order was done good 10 minutes then the other going to more relaxed place.

Only drink you are supposed to buy is your own. Sure you can politely or at times not even very politely , decline buying it for others although pressure probably will continue unfortunately. Easier to say than stand your ground so if you really want to spend some time in the bar be prepared to succumb and buy the damn drink if only to avoid pestering and still to have a chance to ogle boys.

thanks God , Thailand has other advantages making us visit and do it often

would you guys ease up or we are on the way to have another thread locked?