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glad to hear your experience mirrors mine since Senso along with Arena and Bangkok Massage soi Twilight are my Great Three. 1.5 hr massage in regular room would be 1300 so really that 200 extra is for that porn I guess. While prices are top I patronize the place because 1. never been disappointed with session there, 2. never been cut on time when ordered longer 1.5 hr session which can't be said about Prince / Hero. 3. selection is smallish but there are 's always at least 2 guys I need to sweat which one to choose unless of course Jack is available

because rise to 500 was postponed to next summer I'd tell her. While 400 is a lot of money how much she would consider appropriate for an option of ogling dozen of boys with erect cocks available for caressing for a further 100-200 ? I wonder if people shopping for , say , underwear at department store are chasing staff with questions why piece costs 500 baht while pair can be had at Chatuchak for 85.

finally some reason for me to visit soi 4

I don't phones are particular disaster at Tawan and sometimes you may be happy they are busy with phone than pestering you , giving you an opportunity to admire them without bothering with forced upon small talk not necessarily sleeping together but certainly being together on one bed , and yes , till morning wake up. Sometimes they may tell you they need to leave at such and such time a.m. , sometimes they will accompany you for a breakfast if invited stop complaining and use energy to lower your expenses at home so you have more vacation money thank you for a good news and welcome to the forum. Remember that quality is in the eye of beholder so our standards may vary , it's why is the best to go and check ourselves. Sometimes I visit bars with friends , often from this forum, and I'm always amazed how we look at the same boys and yet see them differently.

some boys may be looking for a tips that high but my advice will be negotiate down hard to the lower threshold shown above , ( 2000 ST, 3000 LT ) at end of day , very few will refuse. Make sure you set those conditions before hand to avoid haggling in the room. On another hand you you REALLY fancy the boy I'd rather be overpaying and having fun than trying to save money and prove how tough negotiator you are going home empty or second handed. Boys are friendly so don't be afraid to let those who plant themselves beside you know that you are not in the offing mood tonight. They are used to it as well as used to clients who are shy or feel intimidated and need a little encouragement to be brave.

you will do good, ask bucknaway, our member here , I'm pretty sure he reported somewhere he did not have any problem due to skin color specially if you are young . Thinness of the wallet is only problem you may encounter.

For regular massage I'd tip cost of massage if I ever had one in LOS. Keep in mind if you consider service outstanding feel free top tip accordingly to what you consider fair notwithstanding what advises will be. Next time it may be even better

in my opinion this is better way of visiting Vietnam , from south to north which is more interesting instead of other way around which was my mistake in it's day. You should send non performing boy with nothing but you sent him with 50 000 because you have a good heart and I would do the same , but not before extracting from him at least some prolonged hug.

I personally am not interested in uniforms and would encourage boy to shed one as soon as we closed door

short time 1500-2000 , most popular boys who get offed daily may request even 2500 long time 2500-3000 , you may get requests for more ,even up to 5000 but bargain it down / or gnash you teeth and pay/ best bars for you types are Tawan and Jupiter , try Dreamboys also but best source of muscular boys are massage places and most of boys are offable although it may be more expensive as for some reason some massage places are charging stratospheric prices for out calls. To have a massage and arrange quietly with boy to visit you after his shift may not be bad idea. I just see I repeated paulsf post above , did not notice new post when typing mine so I will leave as it is

lucky country where army has nothing better to do than arranging beach furniture, what a joke !

rather yes, otherwise we will start wondering what you really doing in Pattaya, certainly you are not strolling through her wide green boulevards for the lack of those

just make sure you leave yourself an option to veto his choice if it will not suit you

but Pattaya is better than Bali any night

actually when we think about it, all underscored it's world standard suffered by most of humanity, do not mistake world standard with world class

you guys are becoming too possesive

actually it was firecat who said this above but of course most of us it no all will second it

and you better not be if you knocking into door here

is boy with ugly, silicone deformed cock still there at the bar you let remain nameless? Hope they toned down sound volume as well . have a fun and don't forget about us

Welcome to the forum 1 no , unless you will wear hat or t-shirt proclaiming you are sex tourist 2. doesn't matter , on either on you get 30 days entry 3.you may hire guide in advance , from example from siamroads.com ( search this forum or google) but guide will not be your sex partner - for that one you need to to ground search when there 4. depending on your budget and where you want to stay, get acquainted with Raya, BBB Inn and Nantra Silom, that should cover you from more upscale to budget 5. go to the go-go bar ,buy yourself a drink, look for boy who smiles at you, wave him over, buy him a drink and ask him what he will do, if you need translator call mamasan over. If all works to specifications, pay off fee , usually 400-500 baht , in Dreamboys 650 , make sure he has ID with him , go to your room or to know boy better ask him if he is hungry and buy him a meal. Let him fuck the soul out of you , pay him his tip ( I'd agree on size of it beforehand ). After boy left check in the mirror how guy in paradise looks like and welcome to Land of Smiles

( my underscore ) Mirrors my experience from ordinary offs - if boys initiated it was great , if it was me , not really.

you are welcome

consider it done , no more nosy questions , just patient waiting for an opportunity to meet there again

not entirely hypothetical as per my own experience described here in my Nov 2013 report . to make story short Dreamboy boy ( Thai ) refused to undress, no to mention shower and further deeds, after a while I asked him to leave and following drama including call to mamasan and rising at least half of occupants of Om Yim hotel prompted me to push him out of door waving 1000 baht not to be received on corridor only. He left escorted by me downstairs as I wanted to avoid more hell but let me tell you I was not popular occupant there judging by stares of staff and some occupants in the morning, one of them , Belgian even asked me later on what the hell we were doing at night . So no fault of mine , worst 1000 baht spent ever and I still have feeling I bought my way out of trouble cheaply. I was not shy to report all that to mamasan at Dreamboys next night but boy in question is still on the scene,but not at Dreamboys and apparently mend his ways. Z909 is right , all that amounts to blackmailing and scaming , creating unduly incentive to cheat but we need sometimes to weigh our principles against getting out of trouble fast.

I don't see anything unusual , everybody goes by his own experience which may vary for many reasons. In many cases statistic sample is too small to form standing opinion . So somebody who had 2-3 bad encounters will be complaining and somebody 2-3 times happy will be singing praises but this may not reflect reality. I can't say much about Viet boys but based on my experience I can say following about Cambodians - go-go /2 meetings / all excellent, massage boys / 4 encounters / all disappointing to some degree/. Is this enough to form an opinion ? I 'd venture absolutely no. It's why I keep trying without prejudice going by smile , face and body shape not nationality as long as they are SE Asians, LOL.