vinapu

it depends how distant future is and how "hungry" so to speak boy will be. Sure , next night he will expect the same and may even fish for taxi money but few days later if they passed without an off he may be more amendable to a price correction although I'd take advantage of that only if in the first place he was very generously compensated. As Travellerdave noticed above it may be better to be generous and splashing on a boy we like than deprive ourselves his services just because we have habit of sticking to set rates and he wants more. Both sides may go home unhappy like last OP story shows.

well said

boys will be trying to take an ownership of you next time they see you but understand very well that it may not be successful, they are used to all those butterflies. You don't need to apologize or explain why you are not offing them tonight, it's enough if you don't propose taking them out. It may feel awkward and they may look genuinely pissed of but that the nature of their job unfortunately. And rest assured it works both ways - boy may all of the sudden tell you , all hot already, that he can't go with you tonight because he needs to go with another customer , been there. yes , boys talk and if you paid XXX baht to one they will expect the same treatment although I personally don't see anything wrong in offering less to their friends who should understand you liked other boy bit better. You did right thing in leaving them , if you feel awkward , further encounter would be chore rather than fun. Boys tried to establish higher rate, nothing wrong with it but you stand your ground and nothing wrong with it either. This is why I like to set price in advance , to avoid situation like that in the morning. Is easier to leave empty handed than trying to argue with boy in your room yes , you should tip them for their time , as one of Oscar's boys told me bluntly in September ' boys are working for baht not for drinks", after all they could be sitting with somebody else. to bad you felt intimidated by boys watching you and skipped on visiting another bar - after all those are your vacations. All in all,other then not tipping boys you did right thing.

very cruel treatment

you are hansum men, that's why. And this visible bulge in the pocket holding your wallet helped boys to focus on the task at hand.

very dignified response Denny59 can be also commended for apologizing. While it's obvious not all posts are for everybody, posters should realize that trip reports require some effort writing and negative comments of sort above should be avoided as it can be very discouraging. so all I'd be asking numazu is to keep posting and Denny59 to keep reading every second paragraph of his posts until he gets used to the music.

no harm trying but if boy said ' no' to me doubling his tip I'd assume he is not interested in whatever I want from him and this was time fr me to stop trying . You can complain about his performance as he was saying 'no' and if he was hot looking , no reason to complain. Sometimes boys are so hot looking that I'd be tempted to pay them just to undress and let me look at them but somehow they always so far turned more progressive and active than that.

doesn't sound as healthy stuff

while rates at airport railway station are very good indeed it needs to be mentioned that those booths are open only when trains are running i.e. 6-24 so all those arriving past midnight can't take that advantage. Only good news about exchanges upstairs is that no need to shop for rates as all are uniform in those. waiting for Pattaya bars installment impatiently

this should work http://www.musicmassage.net/

, yes, go. Even now, after they raised prices and reports are that most boys are fully dressed on the stage for me it's still best bar in Thailand and at end of day must say prevailing reason I go to Pattaya at all.

now you have me salivating a bit , LOL

'edit' button is there beside ' multi quote ' button but only few minutes after posted , then disappears for good

in Europe, don't forget you are potato queen

contrary to conventional wisdom vinapu likes naturally muscly men but not necessarily those who sculpted their physique but if I was there I'd certainly attend event if only to see who is attending

welcome to the forum and keep posting. Try Fah massage in the complex, had good experience there in Sept and few reports after that confirmed my impression, no fem boys there

stop farting in the living room please

save photo somewhere on your computer, use 'more reply options ' button below, then 'choose file", find file, 'attach file ' and off you go done proud of your service to the community

even with that mess I miss that soi VERY MUCH

I'm firmly in the bar camp, I like live people , not their screen shoots. I find whole issue similar to mall vs Amazon / and other internet shops / debate. Malls and bars provide human interaction and instant gratification and I'm willing to pay for speed. Streets without shops and sois without bars would be very boring indeed. Like DivineMadman I think it's good we have a choice

I'm not into twinks at all but wouldn't consider visiting Sunee bars , Winners in particular , waste of time . Looks and smiles are still there , even for me , just not offing material but eye candy still.

even if it seems that ' democrat ' Taksin with his moral campaign did more damage to gay entertainment than junta, very words hoping for junta long rule make my spinal cord numb , hence my comment. I hate those nation saviors whererever they happen to be. Sorry if you felt offended

not sure about them being stunned but I stand by remark that ideas presented are sensible. Possibly owners even have simlar thoughts. Whether they are workable it's another question. As for shipment to Pattaya by leaky boats I suggest renting out Pattaya-Hua Hin ferries for operation a it seems that they have spare capacity and are quite new.

I hope you choked on those words and are still in emergency room

I'm too willing impatiently for such an opportunity but as crossing border all we can hope is to leave carriages with all luggage , being admitted on foot and then going back to platform to board other side's train I'm afraid