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whenever I see old fatty hauling with him girl looking like his grand granddaughter I want to scream just like that Russian guy described above. Not that I condone his behavior as we all are guests in Thailand and should leave to Thais to sort out what is permitted and what is not in their country . Sometimes considering age difference between two companions, rage may be somewhat well intentioned and justified so some discretion never hurts. We always should keep in mind that to Western eyes lots of Asians are looking much younger that they are.

You provided us with great tour of Bagan temples and I like your reflection on sightseeing barefoot although I'm not sure I'd rave so much about it. One thing is sure , after stepping on monkey's poo while climbing Mt.Popa barefoot I will remember Myanmar exploration without shoes till end of my days LOL

thread carefully specially in Pattaya as hotel may have nothing against you bringing boy companion but other guests may object very vocally , specially in lower end places. We had report on one forums not long ago about some boy guest related commotion in one of soi Bukhao hotels.

Hotel - Nantra Silom City - Bangkok Visitors Allowed - they don't care, even if more that one Joiner Fee - No, but if you require extra towel for 2nd boy charge is 100-200 Security - they don't care Extras - Breakfast for boy included if room paid with breakfast, sometimes they offer deals 'room only " Hotel - BBB Inn City - Bangkok Visitors Allowed - welcomed Joiner Fee - No Security - sometimes ( if they don't know the boy which is rare) ID held at desk and room rung to confirm all ok before returned to boy . Extras - massage boys at extra cost on premises 7/24, no breakfast Hotel - Raya Suriwong City - Bangkok Visitors Allowed - Yes, even more than one Joiner Fee - No, although there's apparently sign that it cost 1000 but no report it's enforced or even confirmation if it's true Security - sometimes , it seemd to depend on receptionist and guest, ID held at desk and room rung to confirm all ok before returned to boy. Extras - Breakfast for boy included if room booked for two and with breakfast Hotel - Pavillion Place City - Bangkok Visitors Allowed - Yes Joiner Fee - No Security - just go and have a fun Extras -no breakfast Hotel - Malaysia Hotel City - Bangkok Visitors Allowed - Yes Joiner Fee - No Security - ID held at disk and room rung to confirm all ok before returned to boy, sometimes thay just wave you in Extras - Breakfast for boy and yourself can be purchased downstairs. Hotel - New Le Cafe Royal City - Pattaya Visitors Allowed - Yes Joiner Fee - No, Security - ID held at desk and room rung to confirm all ok before returned to boy. Extras - Breakfast for boy included if room booked for two and with breakfast Hotel - Ambiance City - Pattaya Visitors Allowed - Yes, even more than one although website above claims 2nd guest will be charged 300 but not my experience with statistic sample of 2 nights Joiner Fee - No, Security - ID held at desk and room rung to confirm all ok before returned to boy. Extras - Breakfast for boy included if room booked for two and with breakfast Hotel - Copa City - Pattaya Visitors Allowed - Yes Joiner Fee - No, Security - ID held at desk and room rung to confirm all ok before returned to boy. Extras - no breakfast but one can be ordered as room service from Ambiance across the soi

we all were, thankfully those skinny days are behind most of us.

and we wish you you will be even happier in the future

BBB Inn should have boys on duty 7/24 although you need to check on given night. I had a massage there at 3 a.m. after my arrival in Bkk in the beginning of Dec 2016. Massage was 1700 for 1.5 hr and I have confirmed that only 30% of it i.e. 510 baht goes to the boy so tip accordingly. Massage was good and so was boy so I gave him 1000 just to start my trip on splurge note

I wonder if he still has that handsome boyfriend he was travelling with and our member bkkmfj in 2015, boyfriend name was Non if interested see that report here http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/9986-july-2015-trip-report-chiang-mai-sukhothai-kanchanaburi-and-pattaya/

We can only hope they will take off and revitalize that stretch of the soi. Hope willie will visit on the opening night and reports here

With that it becomes more clear of why Americans voted way they did in the last election

certainly that can't be said about overwhelming majority of us farangs and our Thai ( Burmese, Lao, Cambodian, Viet ) boys , lucky you and enjoy while it lasts, LOL

nice to know that ballooning made such a progress in Bagan , when I took the same adventure back in 2001, ours ( the same, Baloons over Bagan) was only one in the air, could be booked day in advance and cost only 195 USD You are right , it's adventure worth every penny and one remembers it forever.

what about if there's another boy in your room already still sleeping after exhausting nightscapade?

my advice to all-carry condom, tube of lube and small bottle of mouthwash with you everywhere you go including even going down for breakfast as one never knows who may be spotted on the way.

Perhaps not, few times when bar hopping and saturated with drinks already I offered to buy a drink for mamasan instead of for myself and always idea was approved graciously. So it seems buying drink for whomever is sufficient. I had my share of unwelcome situations in bars but must say never had a case when boy's drink was delivered without me ordering it.

not sure it was a case above but often in price for outcalls boys' tip in included in quotation and collected up front

are you sure it isn't 250 / 1800 for 10 sessions/ ?

I'm not sure, I never heard those for years and for a change had two tries of "extortion" last year for the first time

Not being able to verify whether farang story is accurate or not mamasan was right not to overreact. It's recorded on this forum somewhere - not long ago, I guess in 2015, I was witness of commotion in Raya's lobby with departing farang loudly complaining about theft from safety deposit box. Couple weeks later story emerged on, I think , Gaybutton's . Farang admitted to making fool of himself telling the same story and confessing that he found missing money in some forgotten compartment of his suitcase. We can be as hot headed or as malicious as everybody else .

It funny how we all are different. I can't even imagine paying 5 $ for a coffee but do think nothing to up expected boy's tip by 500 baht just because he is hard already when he is undressing. I guess it's all part of what you say above ( underlined ). On another hand if somebody would criticize my spending habits I stop for a second to consider that he may be somewhat right as we all do stupid things in life and often somebody sober needs to point it out.

then no shortage of hotels in Pattaya , avoid such hotels and take your business and pleasures somewhere else. Good point about need to relax after massage, it's why I always go for 1.5 hr course as opposite to 1 hr one and don't like places where I feel rushed

Not that you did anything wrong , agreement is agreement, but unless he misbehaved big time I'd still give him something. I agree about mamasans at Screwboys, it must be something in the water on that side of Suriwong as rarely problems with them at Jupiter and Tawan as well

and this is proper course of action as far as I can see

and this is Tawan away for a long time, boys are supposed to take care about clients themselves and mamasans there are only drink servers and cash collectors really.

this is why I always try to have as much change as possible to avoid such indignity. Instead of waiting for change ask then to break say, 1000 baht note as soon as you enter bar or even better do it beforehand.