vinapu

that's very unfortunate. One would think that gays are gentler part of humanity but is seems to be wishful thinking at the moment by what we can read on the forum

Abdismaili, Khortose gave you a plausible answer already

While your experience is zillion times bigger than mine, I'd wouldn't be that extreme and I was dealing couple times with boys extremely reliable including even one who knocked to my door at 10 p.m. on the dot as he promised day before.

I find this gossiping beneficial as well and recall quite a few cases when boys briefed about me by their friends went that extra mile / going long time with customer for first time ever, reducing their tip request after consulting what I paid last boy etc. / Some of specific are very detailed, one of BBB boys was briefed what side of bed I prefer and admitted to being instructed that he must shower with me because I like that and informed that he will be invited for a breakfast in the morning. Another Arena boy was told not tu turn TV in the room without asking me etc. So if we think we are kind of unknowns while entering bar or massage it's not always exactly a case.

Welcome to the forum Perhaps you did not execute Vinapu's rule #1 - always pick up only guy who smiles at you or at least tries to make an eye contact with you ? It also helps to talk to boy , not just a mamasan who may tell you what she thinks you want to her just to land a deal. Sorry to hear your experience there was bad but don't get discouraged easily. For me it's between Senso and Arena which place is the best and I'm not excatly born yesterday when comes to BKK massage places.

no, find soi Twilight and visit as many bars as you can squeeze to make your own mind what you like the best out of 6 bars there. Show you looking for may not be performed at present at Dreamboys but Try XBoys ans midnight show at Screwboys on the Patpong side / opposite from Soi Twlight across the Suriwong /

keep in mind , there's also your own country where you can be asked where you are coming from , what you did there and can we please see your camera / phone ? One may have a lot of explaining if they found some pictures of boys who may be 24 but to officer's eye may look 17 like many Asians

have fun in Pattaya and don't forget about us

perhaps that was the whole idea

you both are on the roll with your advises in this thread , 110 % agree with you , leave whole thing to the pros.

BurBoy is not a bar boy. I second what samebb said above , in bars you meet real people in 3 dimensions and nothing beats having ability to get closer to your intended off. Like Rush of Bangkokbois blog fame once exclaimed ' placing hand on boy's leg is responsible for more offs than all mamasans and smiles together".

what about the boys ? Worth trouble of getting in ?

somebody needs to do the cooking I guess

that the good news By the way , are you planning to treat us with trip report? No pressure , God forbid, LOL

+1

so it looks Scooby's cooling heads therapy worked

don't worry , Troy and Rome are even older

true, but if you look over 50 in their eyes they still will charge you enhanced , ''over 50" admission

Nantra Silom is chepaer and comfortable enough with no problem with guests. Walking distance to all bars and very close to Tawan where you can get your stocky night companion and to Arena where they massage you with happy end. Night Market at patpong should serve you well and during day go to MBK for your retail therapy, three stops by BTS / elevated railway / from Sala Daeng station , also walking distance from all three hotels mentioned above.

they look at you

no surprise here

My problem with pictures is that I don't read them well. Whet I see in the picture and in reality is often two different things, specially when it come to people. With boys quite often I see somebody unattractive in the photo while in the flesh he IS SOMETHING. It's why I don't take many pictures if any at all. Specially misleading are ones posted in various websites. In now defunct UNIMAN there was boy named Art, one of most handsome Thai boys I ever had contact with and yet , his picture on their website was showing him extremely unattractive for my eyes. It's why I prefer face to face experience in massages or bars to picking company on websites or apps. .

this I hear ever since I'm coming to Thailand

new Jupiter in soi 4, new bar in old Jupiter's space and renovated MyHero where old Hero was

don't worry, if somebody is short of time can always read every second paragraph or something...... It was said many times before but I will repeat again, posting trip reports takes a lot of effort and time so interested readers should appreciate and disinterested can skip it altogether. If narrative is too long sometimes plot may be lost somewhere but as long as reading is interesting and saturated with practical information we can only be grateful so keep writing way you like.