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it probably matches percentage of registered voters in democratic societies actually interested in politics to some degree

Nirish, you never far away from the bed ! LOL

Since this passage rised firecat's blood pressure to 320/190 here's my account on my first day in Kuta as a reason I'm not backing from what I said above. I strongly believe if was just accumulation of bad luck but Kuta will not have second chance to make first impression on me. 1. 2 days before arrival booked through Agoda room with A/C in small hotel close to airport due to late night landing. Cost twice of fan cooled room, 490000 vs. 250000. Room did not have A/C unit but at least had hole in the wall where unit once was. Spider web inside looked older than 2 days 2. In the morning hearing commotion over breakfast which was supposed to be included in price but hotel demanded payment from that guest. Not sure who was right , by time I came to the table it was settled and my breakfast was free. 3. knowing about money exchange scams decided to change 200 $ in two different counters. 100$ was roughly 1 000 000 , in first place all given in 20 000 notes which is good but instead of 50 of them there were 48 only next counter few blocks apart, this time change in 50 000, 19 only instead of 20. difference given without the fuss but neither 'mistake ' was coincidental because both places used electronic counter 4. there's shopping mall between the beach and main road in south Kuta, despite early hours group of four handsome but drunk already farangs run through screaming and almost naked - dicks barely covered but pubes in plan view. Not unpleasant sight for me but locals seem to be disgusted. Immediately I think about Bali bombing few years earlier and I'm a bit less surprised it happened than previously. 5. Arranging with taxi driver day tour to few temples . He has plan for 5 of them for 400 000, I suggest leaving only 2 but adding Ulu Watu which is in the opposite direction to the rest. I agree on the price quoted 450 000, upon return he demands 500 000. I'm paying gladly because I was planning on tipping him 100 000 but still feel cheated. At Ulu Watu finally bright spot - monkey is trying to steal my glasses but I'm fraction of second faster managing to hold on to my baseball cap with other hand at the same time. 6. In the evening arranging taxi to Seminyak to see the same bars firecat is aspiring to, 3 taxis quoting 70000 and not budging but I'm not paying armed with knowledge that it should be 30000, finally 4th was reasonable. Next morning went to Ubud inland and next 7 days went without a glitch in tropical paradise. If anybody disagrees with my right to assessmnet of Kuta quoted above feel free to, but don't even try to change my mind. And no , I'm not novice tourist easy to fleece and I visited plenty of places I can compare Kuta to including Pattaya , that paragon of honesty and modest behavior. Numbers taken from my travel diary and rounded for easier reading

since quote is from me I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that I inserted words " I personally" , indicator good enough that this is my opinion for my personal use. Reader can take it for a face value, reject summarily or ask for reasons if interested but certainly not assume that somebody is trying to ruin his perceived opinion about the place like you did acting like part time board bully. My apologies if you read my responses as upsetting , which was never my intention. And I found your hostile reaction as undeserving and unnecessary. I don't think you targeted me , rather it's part of pattern we observe recently with some concern. People disagreeing with you are not your enemies , they are fellow board members with different preferences, be it cost of taxis, tipping habits or place of Kuta on world's map. you think somebody will be brave and naive enough? I will try

from members of this forum I'd start with Xiluzer , ChristianPFC, you , z909 nad biguyby - all met in person as I tend to put more weight to what people I saw eye to eye have to say. Next would be contributors to this and others forums I read regularly. I don't put much weight on what unknown people have to say on TripAdvisors, hotel review sites etc

What you need are not pills but some nice body warming your back overnight.

sounds correct although I don't recall any hotel /condo at end of that soi. If grassy filed you mentioned is soccer field you were in the wrong soi, one with Magnolia is further away

I don't like shaved pubes for the same reason - unnatural

It's fascinating how different preferences are in existence. May be after all Eros boy above was right, at least to some degree when he said that farangs like mooks. I'm with travellerdave on mooks and coloured hair but completely opposite when comes to tattoos and body piercings. So it looks whatever boy decides to do to beautify himself they will be takers and rejectors. Some people are complaining about boys being completely dressed in some BKK bars which I don't mind , on another hand sometimes massage boys hunting for business outside are sporting sunglasses and /or hats , not knowing that I'd not even consider them remotely. Hope biguyby had productive and enjoyable Thursday

I was there in May, they were still operating but it was only one boy on duty when I arrived around 4 p.m. There was no sign but look for a big gay flag on the fence up front.

and so may their attractiveness

As for somebody who never been there your devotion to the place is exemplary and truly moving

clearly you are on the roll ! Why some boys are deforming their magnificent endowments with mooks and silicone is beyond me as well although I'm somewhat more tolerant of mooks but silicone - big NO WAY

I rather had all my remaining 31 teeth pulled without anesthetics or gladly traded 5 days in Kuta for 5 hours in Ubud

you should have a Jamaica motto on it : ' out of many, one'

couple? all of them ! More than once I expressed an opinion that BoysBoyBoys is the best bar with best show and best selection in Thailand as far as I'm concerned.

that would be me, in comparison to Bangkok I consider Pattaya waste of time and money and yet gladly waste both on Pattaya every trip, few days at the time. Don't treat less then thrilling comments about Bali, Kuta and gay scene as discouraging you from going, always best to go and see by yourself. Advantage of Bali over Pattaya is they if you find yourself bored or not happy with gay scene there are are tons of attractions to visit and keep you occupied. It's obvious that not everybody will like everything, there are Pattaya lovers who are spending all their time in the Sunee and those who never bother to go there. The same goes with Bali, it's more to the island than just BaliJoe in Seminyak.

particularly deaf ones will not complain about noise level

I agree, I recollect our visit there in May, noise level at X BOYS Pattaya was bordering on being painfull. And I have high noise tolerance living on bust street and facing multi lane highway

not a bad idea bar hopping with fellow forum member is always highlight of my trip to LOS, fun and eye opener when we exchange comments about offer available

I thought heart is somewhere else

I means we will have two reports rolling out soon

I second what was said above - just go and see in person, most of massage boys can be offed for a cost of 1-1.1/2 he massage fee. If you park yourself in one of the Boyztown hotels you will have 3 massage places literally steps from your door, well stocked with hunky studs. Minimum tips are lower than in Bkk , in 700-800 range for 1 hr course. My favourite places are Narcissus in Pattayaland soi 1 and Royal House beside TukCom but it means nothing as quality of the encounter depends of the boy , not the place and you may find your gem everywhere. Classiest place is Magnolia and quality of the massages was always superb but I had a with bad luck with an attitude from boys so can't swear by the place anymore but it can be me - I like afters to be afters, not a main course when massaged. Offed long time guys from both Magnolia and Scandic in the Boyztown after having great massages with them, in the room both disappointing big time unfortunately but again it could be me, easy prey. Nick recommended by Moses gives great massages and can be your guide/ driver as well but fully dressed unfortunately because he is handsome man. Next time I will try to extract at least hug from him.

not all straights are that horrible. One of BKK memories I cherish the most is from XBoys , soi Twilight where I was complemented by visiting lady with her male companion on my choice of boy I was sitting with. Possibly she sensed he was gay for pay but still complement seemed genuine and even her man winked knowingly

I wanted to say you can take soi Sala Daeng to walk to the Prince , but just realized that you may get distracted by Senso so it looks one needs taxi and/or strong will to get there but worth the trouble even if only to see cathedral lobby populated by hunks.