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All was said about Hero already but I recommend their restaurant - good food , friendly waiters and glass enclosure with the boys right there so you can have you meal and eye candy at the same time. Have you meal after massage , not before. This is an advice from quite a few massage boys , not only from Hero.

Closed suddenly just before Christmas of 2014, no idea why and where boys went

Dec 2014 - all above confirmed, friendly place and massage by Tao still the best out of many excellent I had this trip

Dec 2014, still the best selection in the soi IMHO, it looks that after midnight drinks are down to 350. Offed boy long time , wanted 3000 quoting bar policy so be warned and negotiate in advance if not willing to pay that much. I resigned to paying since boy was in no rush to leave and one of those sweet twink types making me forget that I like masculine hunks, show hilarious at time but may be at your expense as ladyboy performers may drag you into scene to play role of doctor

Visited twice in Dec 2014 and happy to report that selection improved, both firecat and me saw some potential and we like completely different types, show more tame due to happiness campain but golf number still presented

As of Dec 2014 still open, few boys on duty, not Apollos but not ugly either and not shy at all. drinks and off fees half of soi Twilight level so nice alternative for those who are horny and on budget Don't be afraid to visit, I was with Christian and boys did not pester us, room upstairs available if you want to get close to your chosen one right away.

Very friendly staff on reception, two computers available in the lobby well positioned to check eye candy passing by the entrance, safety deposit box in the room in working condition. cheap beer / 40 baht / on reception, they even have an elevator. A/c a bit slow to cool the room but at least quiet, Not fancy place but well positioned attractive budget option

Visited in Dec 2014, easy walk from Asok BTS, boys will line up for you, 6 or 7 boys available at time of my visit, not shy, I liked place and an experience and will be back

Easy walk from Chong Nonsi BTS, map above accurate, I visited in Dec 2014 and was happy with massage and a boy choice, outcalls 7/24. Yes you are picking up from the book so good place for those who hate intimidation of picking up from the line.

wouldn't be easier and cheaper just to down glass of whisky for good night sleep?

still boys are much more poor than you, tip fair and err on generous side I'd say

I like to check them all if possible as one never knows if new talent arrived or not. Best example from my last trip is Screwboys, barely visited in the past, this year I was dragged there by ChristianPFC and found my gem - 6 offs, 5 of them long time, exactly half of all offs from bars during whole trip

I understand you are talking about Dream Boys Pattaya, not Bangkok, right?

No problems with guests at Nantra, actually none of 3 boys I brought when there had to leave their ID with reception. As xiluzer says above , they don't care. As for safety deposit box there was one in the room but did not close. likely they could fix it easily / I had the same at Take A Nap, fixed in no time / but I did not bother as at end of trip I run out of money and used box to keep my laundry only

I like to take things slow and it's why I usually off long time, short timers are notorious , at least for me to rush things up and try to skip on time commitment even if negotiated. Now I firmly resolved that I will tell them up front in no uncertain terms that cutting on time will result halving of tip / done for boy from XSize already /

Next time I will try deluxe room at Nantra as location is excellent with 8 or so massage places within 200 m radius, one can easily spend 1 week there without crossing the street in search of suitable company. I agree, one should invest in boy drink at Jupiter and talk to a boy a bit before taking him home . Truth is , they all look great with #43 and #72 leading the pack for me

you will be happy at Malaysia, take it for granted, no joiners fees for sure, screw Pinnacle

just walk like you own the place but since you need to pick up key from reception usually at that point they will ask your guest for ID. Some hotels are pretty strict and some quite lax, although if you longer time resident often they skip this request. When he will be leaving most likely they will call you to check if everything is OK, I usually walk with boy downstairs to prevent boys form any embarrassing comments or questions.

not me but still brings best of memories ! thank you

I usually buy some clothes in BKK, not because of price advantage although bargains are aplenty but because I like something I see. Last trip / actually only last Sunday / I bought of all things very nice down filled winter jacket at Central, Silom Centre. I did not even know they sell such things in Thailand. It came very handy when on arrival home I learned it's -8 Celsius outside. In last 4 days since arrival it worked well in frost , snow and rain. Wonder what's next - going to Greenland to buy bikinis?

Problem with this approach is that even if you insist and boy gives up and does this or that, encounter still will not be enjoyable as all will be done under kind of pressure. I'm actually very tolerant and undemanding when comes to underperformace but hate with whole my heart and soul when boys tries to skip on negotiated time, doesn't matter how sweet he is as soon as he mentions that he wants to go I feel pissed of. This was my case with Boy from Tawan, truly great and enjoyable chap but story about parking car invented to get out earlier almost made me vomit so I gave up and let him go with negotiated tip. Thankfully as you noted staff is mostly reasonable and this type of incidents is mercifully rare / 2 out of 20 offs last trip tried successfully to cut negotiated time, in one case I cut his tip to 1000 from 2500 , in second one above I gave up but not immediately/. This never happened with massage boys, no wonder I have soft spot for them.

I'm not avoiding Jupiter beacuse I like their show, mamasans are not pushy and all boys are eve candy but I'm one of those who had disapointments there in the past as well . My advice would be to negotiate with boy carefully including length of time and what he will and won't do. With your bad experience we at least know that boys are not discriminating against farangs here, I think they are just bit too full of themselves. They may be shooting themselves in the foot - one of night walking along Suriwong with xiluzer we met one of their best looking boys Ti #43 I had hots for coming after work. Because my last year's disappointment with his colleague it did not even cross my mind to take advantage of situation and hire him right there. Boy went home without off and so did I. I regret this and hope for correction in the future.

Thank you very much Michael, good to know that all this typing was useful. Actually I enjoyed putting those reports together and I know that even I will read them form time to time in the future. Is only 4 days since I returned and I start missing LOS already

Welcome to the forum, It would be interested to see how such hotel treats guests, my guess would be they just turn blind eye as long as boy is dressed properly and fortunately almost all of them are, it's us farangs who are sloppy dressers in LOS. One thing is sure - you will have a fun in BKK, wherever you stay

I forgot to mention that on top of massage boys from massage places I had also real massage , no hanky panky involved by Jirapat, professional masseur in Pattaya. Session was impressive and I felt the difference but to be fair all those 5 mentioned above showed comparable skills and lots of skin as a bonus. Will see him again if ever in Pattaya, I hope.