Vessey

Ok, so to cut against the grain a little bit here, I have seen a range of mamasans in girl, LB and boy bars. A few are undoubtedly monsters, but by no means all. A good mamasan will know all their working boys/girls, they will know the gays, straight or in-between, they will know the sort of customers they normally go with and react well with. They will be trying to get customers for their boys/girls as well as sell drinks for the bar etc - and of course they would like a drink too. Now forgive me if some of these next comments relate to some of the girl bars, as I have a longer history with some of them. The mamasans I know well will point me in the direction of new girls, and they will reassure a nervous new arrival that I am 'safe' to go with. They absorb feedback from both me and from the girl as to how the short/long time went and that in turn helps advise the next customer, etc. etc. They know that if I am happy I will return either for the same girl or another from their bar. They know that, kept happy, I will usually spend some coin and have a good time in their bar. I am not for one moment suggesting that they are all paragons of virtue, but some are, and they are well worth cultivating.

Some really good points here. Mostly we have learnt to read the signals as we chat with the boy and either 'go for it' or 'move on' as the mood dictates. But sadly there are those instances where either alcohol has clouded our judgement or where our cocks are completely ruling our heads and we press ahead regardless of the baht involved or those little warning signs that the lad's heart will not be in this encounter.

Good point, Sunee is certainly more discretely located, although easy to get to once you know where it is - if that makes sense. Boyztown, like Walking Street is a bit of an institution and may survive anyway, its places like Soi 7 and 8, and even Soi 6 that seem to me to be under far greater threat of re-development, but who knows what, if anything, will happen.

There are times when I return to my room a semi-molten, sweating hulk and I am desperate for the air con to be on for a while at least. But I also try very hard these days to sleep with it off and just manage with the room fan. Added to which cold boys sleep either clothed or with at least one white towel wrapped around them under the sheets whereas a warm boy either sleeps naked or in his little pants - no contest really is there? LOL

We all have to watch our budgets, indeed I am probably facing a reduced daily budget this coming trip But that said, generally on my holidays, time is even more precious than money; getting the best I can out of each day. If I see a lad who is carbonating my hormones just by smiling at me, am I really going walk away over an extra 500 baht or even an extra 1,000 baht? As long as I don't do it every day I would rather enjoy the experience and capture the memories than go off in search of second best for the night. I don't have many regrets from my Thai holidays, but of those, most are for hesitating rather than grabbing the opportunities that present themselves. Fortunately Toy Boys is full of little opportunities LOL

To follow on from my earlier post in this thread I readily accept that I overpay compared with others. My favourite at Toy Boys I first met when he worked across the soi in Scandic (?) Massage where you paid at reception a flat fee of 1,500 for massage 'and sex with boy'. Now with the aid of Cialis I rarely have a problem 'rising to the occasion' several times a day, but I do have difficulty in emptying my tanks. So I made a bargain with this lad - I would give him an extra 500 baht if he actually got me to cum. Not surprisingly he would go to great efforts to ensure that I did, in fact his success rate rapidly outstripped all my other regulars of whatever gender. So when he moved over to Toy Boys I naturally kept this going - except, as I said, word got round and other boys wanted the same. But for me this lad remains in a different class - and believe me he still absolutely earns his tip.

I find it handy to change 1,000 baht note into 100s before I go in - a steady supply of tips equates to a steady supply of cocks to play with hahaha

A distinction without a difference perhaps? LOL Whats more, you can either peel them off the boy one at a time or both at the same time, After all, it is what you find underneath than counts hahaha

In Toy Boys they would frequently wear their 'tighty-whities' over another pair of pants, Just another layer to peel away LOL

Bugger the shopping - get on with the shag-fest! Hahahaha (Nice start BTW )

I think Sunee Plaza is seriously under-rated, it has a more laid-back feel to it than BoyzTown, although Eros and Good Boys are certainly not for the shy or faint-hearted.

As Vinapu says we all set our own personal limits in terms of the tips we are prepared to give the boys, I have taken quite a few boys from Toy Boys. One of my favourites I have known for a few years now I always give 2k for ST or 3k for LT - trouble is all the others expect the same from me now - yes they all talk to each other! LOL So I have made a rod for my own back I guess - but actually in terms of other agogos I think that is pretty standard now for Pattaya. Some of the Walking Street girl agogos (Sapphire/What's Up/Baccara etc) ask for 3k for ST and 4 or 5k for LT - I just mention that for comparison. I have paid 1k for ST and 2k for LT in some of the beer bars, But we will each have our own views, if the boy likes you he may go for less, if he doesn't he may up the fee to put you off. Although right now, in the depths of low-season its a buyers-market out there. Whatever tip you agree on I would also be nailing down what you will get for that and how long he will stay, etc.

Six weeks away from my next trip and yep, time drags, I have my bucket list, I have the itch waiting to be scratched - so pile in (so to speak) as much 'below the line' detail as you want please. LOL

Lovely, please keep going. Try the At Home Bar in the Jomtien Complex - a nice relaxing bar with lots of hot boys, many Cambodian.

I suspect we would be even more outraged if we knew how little the boy/waiter actually got of that 450 baht - 50 baht maybe? - or less? In context 450 baht is almost (say 500 baht) the cost of a barfine/off-fee, you can still get a short-time on Beach Road for 500 baht. 450 baht will not only buy a drink for a boy in Good Boys but also cover the tip for sucking him off! To me at least those sort of drink prices are making Sunne Plaza or the Jomtien Complex look even more attractive places to visit than BT?

Honestly guys the differences are real easy to see. You will find Twinks have my name written on them and hunks have Vinapu's name written on them! LOL Just look for our names tattooed in small letters just above their cocks - you gotta look real close mind! haha

You guys worry too much, I have seen this one lad, Chet, numerous times now, but apart from a friendly smile I would struggle to describe him to you, muscles, tattoos, anything - on the other hand I can describe his cock to you in some detail. Once he flops his monster out it has my undivided attention and nothing else seems to matter. I only pick him out because he remembers me, although sadly, I suspect, not for the same reason as I remember him LOL

Away with these mirrors!! - they lie and distort! I am paying for fantasy of me being this 'handsum man' being ministered to by this sexy, dark-skinned Adonis. Mirrors only pop the illusion with painful reality. LOL They age me and make my belly and my bald patch look bigger, and make my cock look smaller. Away with them I say!

Generally I tend to avoid them, but in Pattaya at 3am or 4am in the morning, and usually after a few too many beers - I get this craving for McDonalds, Fortunately most of my barfines are happy to share my guilty pleasure - so to speak. I do recall one happy moment on my last trip, at one such ungodly hour, when just back in my hotel room, I was slumped on the sofa with a Big Mac in one hand and this lad's cock in the other - ah! Happy Days indeed! LOL

Hummm. is it worse to ignore someone or to be ignored by someone? LOL We are too small a forum for these sort of mind-games IMHO

I am into twinks but these lads at Good Boys are sweet-natured and well mannered. They are just horny lads looking to empty their balls for a modest handful of baht. HJs and/or BJs, it is dark and their cocks are hard and ready to cum - what more could you want? LOL I love the place and all its sordid, dark, cum-stained little corners. LOL

Many has been the time that I have seen the Soi 6 girls rush out to help some elderly gent up the step into their bar (and presumably beyond if the flesh is still willing! haha), Sadly my days of being able to bounce my barfines around the room are almost past, nowadays I am reduced to just lying there and being their 'bouncy castle' - still fun though. As time goes on its probably going to be easier for me to be the catcher rather than the pitcher LOL An area I am only slowly venturing into with the aide of my favourite Cambodian lad.

Haha yes, some of the 'Goodboys' are a real handful! Indeed one or two require both hands! LOL

We each have one as the forum systems usually allow warning points to be given, but only you and the Mods/Admins can see yours. I am not aware that warning points are given here on this forum - or perhaps, like you, I have just been a good boy? LOL

I know him as 'Bob' from Toyboys - he is 25 now - seen and checked his ID card. University student from Bangkok who works in Toy Boys when he needs to raise some cash. Friendly and fun lad.