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Decriminalisation would lead to a severe loss of 'tea-money' to too many and for that reason alone seems highly unlikely. Anyhow if the authorities are serious about attracting more family holidaymakers to Pattaya, it isn't the bars and freelancers they need to clean up its their beach! Their beaches are filthy and their seas polluted by their own drains and sewage.

Well I am another that hopes you will return, I have enjoyed your posting style, and the way you have felt able to share your personal pictures with us - I wish I could feel as secure in doing so. I also like the honesty of your posts, your slowly advancing age (although younger than many of us and in much better shape) and your personal insecurities as you age - they are also ones shared by many of us even if we do not have the balls to admit it here on the forum. You are probably now the most recognisable BM on this Forum so don't be surprised if, when in Pattaya, some complete strangers come up and say hello, if I am one of them then I will at least buy you a beer or two. Take care and Happy Birthday Abang

The ladyboy shows at Tiffany or Alcazar are mom-friendly and entertaining, A girl agogo, one of the better ones, such as What's Up or Sapphire on Soi 15 would give a flavour of Walking Street without being too 'bold'. Other than that there are the usual tourist bits, such as the Crocodile Farm, Underwater World, the Floating Market or The Sanctuary of Truth. A day (or even half-day) out on the ferry to Koh Larn is cheap and cheerful,

And actually a nice guy.

Plenty of twinks in Toy Boys in January.

Now I will start off by saying that I have absolutely no idea why numazu hasn't posted for a day or two, but if it were me I would be feeling disheartened. I have written quite a number of Trip Reports over the years, although only one now survives on this forum, and they do take an enormous amount of time and effort to put together. One of the reasons why so few ever get posted. This was (hopefully still is) one of the best TRs I have read on this or any other forum that I belong to and I can well appreciate the craft, pride and joy with which it was put together. You can be praised to the skies by most posters, but it only takes one or two to carp and niggle away with criticisms and suggestions that you have been disrespecting some of the boys by your posts. That sort of thing gnaws away at you and saps your enthusiasm - well it does me that's for sure. IMHO Numazu seems to have gone out of his way to treat all the boys he came across like an absolute gentleman. If Forum rules are broken (and I haven't seen any broken here) then it is surely one of the jobs of the Moderating Team here to adjudicate and sort them out, and our job to report the posts to them that we believe do break those rules. It is also entirely possible, of course to raise issues of concern privately by PM. I am sorry but I really don't think you can justify some of the criticisms made here by simply saying that the OP should learn to develop a thick skin. Is it any wonder that TRs are so few and far between on this forum? There may, of course be many other entirely different reasons why Numazu hasn't posted for a while, but it is certainly one of the reasons why I haven't felt encouraged to post my last TR from January.

I have had seventeen trips to Pattaya over the last few years and only on two occasions have I been offered condom-only blowjobs, once a girl in a Soapy Massage and the other a ladyboy in a Soi 6 bar - I declined both! That said I have also had a couple of boys who have refused to give me a BJ because they 'not like' because they 'not gay', but as they were happy enough to let me give them one it was all ok LOL

Whilst in Pattaya I get almost all my massages from the same boy who works in a multi-gender massage shop on Second Road opposite Alcazar. This massage shop is in theory, and for the most part is, a non-sexual massage shop. Now over the years he has been getting generous 'private tips' from me for HJs, but I still give a 'show tip' as I leave of 200 baht to cover for the fact that everyone knows now that he will go out of his way to wait for me when he knows I am visiting. Ok, now to slowly get to my point, an oil massage there is 300 baht and he gets 100 baht of that. He and his girlfriend both work in the same shop and can get three or four massages a day even in low season, sometimes more, varying from oil, physical, to foot and head massages. He talks to me quite freely now, including his work and they get customers from all parts of the globe, and without getting embroiled in cultural or ethnic distinctions some will leave them no tips and some will leave very small tips - maybe 20-40 baht. He regards 100 baht as a good average tip.

Half the problem, IMHO, is that all too many gay bars in Pattaya absolutely suck when it comes to self-publicity. Some of the most successful girl agogos - Sapphire is the best example, and girl bars, have their own web-sites, Twitter pages, and Facebook pages that are regularly updated - sometimes daily, with lots of pictures of their staff. It gets a lot of chatter going and a buzz about the place that draws visitors to them. Consequently Sapphire is usually rammed with customers even in the depths of Low Season. Parties and competitions are regularly promoted. The At Home Bar in Jomtien is the best I have seen at social media promotion and it always seemed the busiest down there. Winner Boys might be a really great bar, but if not enough people know about it then it will be as doomed as so many others in Sunee Plaza have been.

I think that was announced some time ago, but my recollections from January was that it wasn't being fully enforced, although there seemed less of them that before - although thinking about it, it always seemed that way when you were waiting for one anyway LOL

4 or 5 boys - that's a lot of cocks to play with - and one of the reasons I love this bar so much. LOL

Sadly it will be a number of months before I can come and see for myself, My that aside, any new bar or initiative that can breath more life back into Sunee Plaza needs to be encouraged. I wish Winner Boys every success.

Half of me, the curious half, wants to see what Bur-Boy looks like, But the other half of me does not. Bur Boy is clearly what Numazu wants him to look like, but will he be what I want him to look like? I now have a mental image of him in my mind as being near perfection (for me) as I join vicariously with Numazu on his travels. Sometimes the unseen image is more powerful and more potent.

Actually I think this forum demonstrates the point well. We are not allowed to post cock pics, but a clear outline of a cock underneath thin, or near-clear pants is allowed, and for me at least there is a titillation there that you wouldn't get if it was just another cock shot from just another porn site. The pictures on this site force us to use our imagination so that we don't just imagine the cock, we also imagine what might happen next............. That is eroticism! LOL

Now I will preface this by saying that I am no business man - my thoughts are mostly guesswork. We know and love the bar because of its 'liberal' approach to its horny customers , and, with the possible exception of Good Boys, I am not aware of any other boy bar quite like it in Pattaya? So how do you increase advertising and awareness of the bar in the future without risking changing the happily debauched character of the place that brings so many of us back to it time and time again? Yes it has a web site and FB page but the pictures often seem dated and hardly show the boys to their best advantage - actually they are, for the most part, far better looking in the 'flesh' than they are on their photographs. Perhaps it needs a benefactor rather than a businessman purchasing it. I must try and choose my lottery numbers with a little more care this week! LOL

Here I am sitting alone at home in the UK, having had yet another 'quiet' Valentines's Day - even the postman didn't call! However, some of you were clearly having a very good time indeed! Not that I am at all envious LOL

From the Facebook page of Stephan Sompong at Eros posted about an hour ago , It would seem that the bar is up for sale for 1.3m baht Worrying times for those of us who have come to love its sordid debauchery, and perhaps worrying times for Sunee Plaza as a whole? Just says that the current owner has had it for four years and now wants to move on to a new project. Anyone know any more?

Well I have been slowly going blind over the last few weeks spending far, far too much time not only on Hot Boys Vietnam but a number of other related pages. Based on many happy hours of viewing there would seem to me to be mostly four basic types of posters who go 'live', The first are the ones who want you to admire their physique; they have been training, they look good and want you to appreciate how good they look. Often stripped to the waist, but no more. Then there are the ones who want to sing to you - more of these than you might think, some are ok, but most are painful LOL The third category, and the most common of course, are the ones who are just going 'live' to chat to their friends. Luckily there are the fourth category ones who just who want to show-off their cocks. Usually the screen comes up with them lying on their backs wearing a pair of loose pants with the camera focused on the swelling content of those pants. A hand-rub under the pants to ensure that their package will be seen at its most impressive and then slowly, teasingly, out it comes. Sometimes its in a darkened room so you can actually see little, other times it's just whopped-out in full light for all to admire. The then follows a sort of cat-and-mouse game with the Facebook police to see if they can get to cum before they are shut down. Most never get to cum, but some do. The smart ones pump their cocks until they can cum quite quickly once they go 'live', then delete their posts almost as quickly. The cold winter evenings can pass surprsingly quickly these days! LOL

Spot-on! That's absolutely spot-on! 'Carpe Diem' was the Roman phrase, and how many of actually do still 'seize the day' as middle-age overtakes us. This TR is proving an inspiration perhaps even a guilt-trip to some of us all-too-far-from-medium-sized couch potatoes.

What an astonishing last day up in those balloons, as you and others have said life-time memories in the making both for you and for Bur-Boy. Of course, as Vinapu has already mentioned, the thing that I am most envious about is that you can still fit into a medium-sized T-shirt! LOL

Thank you for such a full and honest appraisal, As a tiny example on my part, I had two favorite boys this last holiday, the first is my now University student who I saw at weekends - loving, friendly and sweet - although the sex was disappointing. On the other hand I have my friend from Toy Boys who I have seen for a year or two now - no love or devotion, but raw passion and great sex. The former calls me boyfriend and wants me to be; the latter just calls me by my name and although friendly, tells me that he is not gay and not looking for a boyfriend. The former tugs at my heartstrings, the latter makes me so horny it twists at my stomach. But at the end of the day its good to have choices I suppose, Nothing to do with mid-life-crisis mate - can happen to any of us at any time LOL

I am sensing that your relationship with BurBoy is continuing to develop even further and may progress even deeper in coming days. Given you long-time BF back home, how are you going to prepare both yourself and BurBoy for the inevitable parting, especially as he seems to be growing fond of you?, I don't ask this critically because I am sure that I would go with the flow as well under the same circumstances, but I guess it is something you have been giving thought to?

Nice TR, and looks like you had fun. I know blowjob boy as 'Bob' No 9 from Toy Boys, a really lovely lad with good English. I had a few sessions with him in January; I liked him.

Reading that last episode got me all horny, and I don't even like 'hunks' LOL Perfect mix of prose and porn - I love it!

As long as we end up getting loads pics of cute Thai bums I am not really too concerned what the thread is called LOL And yes I will try and dig a few out .............