westernguy

Yeah....and I'm a top again 🧐

I'm still waiting to hear what being Vietnamese had to do with this story?  I realize they were both Vietnamese, but is that it?

OK, so both of you seem to agree that this constituted a work action, rather than a genuine mental health crisis. At least we're being honest now. 😉

First of all, it's not at all clear that he agrees with you. He seems to be agreeing with me that these 45 days don't represent bona fide severe psychological trauma. He might shed light on his posts more clearly, but that's how I understand it. Even if he did agree with you, however, only a fool (or very young child) would believe that they are "right" because they know of someone who agrees with him. The staff of the New York Post agree with me. I'm mature and intelligent enough to understand that this doesn't necessarily mean I'm "right." In this situation, common sense has to come into play.
(For what it's worth, I don't believe that you believe what you said about these leaves of absence representing genuine metal health trauma either, but that's a separate issue. Some people will spout nonsense because they can't admit they were wrong)
And, as I've said earlier, even if it were to be the case that these 5 employees were so severely traumatized, which is highly unlikely, that could only lead to the conclusion that they're unfit for this job in general.

Even if we were to give them the benefit of the doubt, if it were true that the 90-second blackout resulted in 45 days of trauma (and how do these people know they won't be better in a shorter period of time?), then they're simply in the wrong job. What's almost certainly going on, however, is that the union got the 45-day clause into their contract of Memorandum of Understanding, and these people took unfair advantage of that loophole. I wouldn't believe for a fraction of a second that these five people all suddenly woke up the next morning thinking "I'm really shaken up, and will need exactly 45 days to recover!". But, then again, if it really were the case that this equipment failure caused such prolonged mental trauma, then these people really should not be doing this job. Would we want to have fire fighters who took 45 days off because a fire hydrant wasn't working?

No one is suggesting it's not stressful. However, the event didn't merit abandoning one's co-workers and the public for over 6 weeks. Hopefully, they're at least keeping tabs on these 5 shady people, to make sure they're not living it up on a nice paid vacation. During 2020, most of my colleagues and I felt we were in grave (even mortal) danger at our jobs (and I would have felt even more frightened had I known at that time that the N95 masks I wore for protection were essentially useless). I didn't hear of a single person where I worked who took off due to "stress." It was our job to help save the lives of others, and we knew the risks involved before we started our training. 
What would our society be like if people whose job it is to ensure public safety took off at the slightest hint of danger? How about fire fighters or police officers? I think most people can see these 5 employees' actions as an opportunity for some paid time off--with serious consequences. I just hope there are consequences. I wouldn't want to work with someone who high-tails it when the going gets rough. Like fire fighters or other first-responders, this is probably not the appropriate job for someone who can't handle pressure. 

I heard on the news that 5 air traffic control employees took 45 days off of "trauma leave," blaming stress over equipment failures at that airport. That airport already suffers from understaffing, and this action will obviously necessitate more overtime and pressure from those who remain, as well as more danger to the public. I find this behavior reprehensible and irresponsible. Although I felt stress as a primary care physician (as well as real personal danger) during the COVID-19 pandemic, it never occurred to me to ditch my fellow health care professionals and take 45 days off due to stress. At the very least, I feel those employees should be required to get daily mental health evaluations to assess their levels of stress and determine their ability to return to work. It seems all highly unprofessional in my view.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/newark-air-traffic-control-lost-contact-pilots-least-twice-source-says-rcna205126
"...While the FAA has not said how many controllers are out on medical disability for stress, the controller who spoke with NBC News said the control tower is struggling to keep up with the flights because four experienced controllers and a trainee are now on leave. Replacing them will take time, an FAA spokesperson said, because any certified controller that applied or volunteered to move to the to the Philadelphia TRACON that guides planes into the Newark airspace would have to do additional training at the FAA's air traffic control training center in Oklahoma City. After which they would be required to do on-the-job training in Philadelphia.
On average, it takes about a year and a half to be certified as an air traffic controller in any facility, the spokesperson said. The FAA moved the controllers who are responsible for aircraft arriving and departing from Newark from a facility on Long Island to Philadelphia last year. The move was meant to reduce the workload of the controllers in that facility who were also handling traffic for New York City’s major airports. United CEO Scott Kirby said Monday the Philadelphia TRACON “has been chronically understaffed for years.”...".
https://nypost.com/2025/05/08/opinion/faa-workers-dont-need-phony-trauma-leave-after-newark-airport-disaster/
"The Newark Liberty International Airport mess just keeps getting more alarming: Now it turns out that an insane leave policy for air traffic controllers is adding to the chaos. Yes, controllers can take 45 days off to handle alleged “trauma” caused by … equipment failures. Yes, preventing plane crashes is a high-stress job, and it’s surely freaky when your radar cuts out — but that’s not trauma, and treating it as such is deeply irresponsible. One, it’s yet another major intrusion of therapy culture into everyday life, in which the slightest adverse event gets magnified into a life-altering disaster that requires endless healing time. Two, it’s literally putting other people’s lives in danger...".

You are welcome durian.  I'm glad your tech issues have resolved.  My experience is that sometimes certain applications will not work with a VPN.  You may have to disconnect Proton if you discover this and then reconnect once your activity on that app/webpage is complete.

It was actually westernguy that suggested using proton!

PV is a beach resort town so I expect anything goes.  Many restaurants have an open air section spilling out onto the street.   While I do agree tank tops should be worn in the daytime only, I doubt there would be many eyebrows raised to see them on boys at night as well.  I feel about the same when I see people wearing shorts in a nice restaurant.....or the dreaded flip flop.

I stayed in Jomtien Beach in January this year for 2 weeks.  I was bored after a week.  Can't imagine staying there for 2 months. 
I visited HCMC and Da Nang in March.  HCMC was incredibly busy...7 million motorbikes.  I absolutely loved Da Nang.  Incredible beaches, great food and a few other attractions when beach isn't on the menu for that day.  Definitely will go back.  Stayed at the DLG...was wonderful and perfect location.

I stayed in Jomtien Beach in January this year for 2 weeks.  I was bored after a week.  Can't imagine staying there for 2 months. 
I visited HCMC and Da Nang in March.  HCMC was incredibly busy...7 million motorbikes.  I absolutely loved Da Nang.  Incredible beaches, great food and a few other attractions when beach isn't on the menu for that day.  Definitely will go back.  Stayed at the DLG...was wonderful and perfect location.

It's a big world, there's more than Pattaya.....

I guess you have to do it slowly .
No use retiring from your job in UK Australia or USA after 30 years service and immediately moving to a condo in Jomtien forever 
The first few weeks would be ok then the same ol thing everyday without a purpose 
Then you slowly go mad 

Just trying to get views on that video????

Doesn't show anything and is in Chinese.....don't bother clicking guys, waste of time.

If we're playing "fill in the blank"....I'll go 1st

Then the....... Symptoms started. 😲🐷

10 inches Filipino dick? 🤣

Hi Olddaddy.  Thank you for your post.  I'm in much the same category as you.  Hope you consider posting about how your travels went.  Have a good time!

That was less about my post about a walk around gay Bangkok, and more about your foray into being a bitchy queen who doesn't know how to pass on posts they don't like.

Because none of the boys at Jupiter are gay I guess.

that was less about a walk around gay bangkok and more about your foray into a couple of bars and how much money you spent