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Or at least that's how Wat Samphran Dragon Temple, 35 kms east of BKK, is defined online. Certainly looks like it:

After my deluge of reports 3 weeks ago, I flew on to Australia and NZ. I was supposed to return home via a 4-days stop in Hong Kong, but since it's not hospitable nowadays - I substituted BKK for Hong Kong at almost no cost. It offered two consolations: less money, more boys. Friday noon I was on my way from Tarntawan to Magic Touch massage, when Grindr beckoned. Nice looking guy with better-than-usual English offered himself instead of Magic, and I agreed. Cambodian, whose name and nick is Chetra. Good thing I did, because when I stepped into the place just to get an impression, there was only one guy there. He said that in the afternoon-evening there'll be eight of them. I went on to buy some socks; bought also for Chetra who had asked for them, though I wasn't sure whether he was serious or joking. Our session was good, and since I enjoy more when I can converse-connect, I invited him to join me for hotel-breakfast the next day (specifying that no money will change hands) with the expressed intention of 'interrogating' him all about life in Cambodia and BKK. He readily agreed; our Saturday meal was VERY educational for me; and then he volunteered to join me on a walk to Lumpini park. On Sunday he also came with me to Dragon Temple. When we parted ways (he home, me to Chatuchak), I gave him 800 baht for his time. I later declined his offer of an additional massage, preferring variety. Back to Friday afternoon: after Chetra had left I walked to Chu Chocolate Bar for a meeting with Anddy, who had graciously agreed to share with me his 5 years experience as a farang living in BKK. He too withstood my interrogation, telling me about his life here, other expats, gay sex scene, forum community, etc. His chocolate was my treat, but his insights were a TREAT indeed. Thanks again Anddy! During my visit 3 weeks ago, an Indonesian 35 y/o PhD student (not MB) reached out to me, and we met. He's into older farangs, and wanted just to meet for coffee. There was quick chemistry between us, but our schedules didn't allow for another meeting. When I texted him I was returning to BKK, we set a date which was even better than the first (this time including hanky-panky). I think I've made a new overseas friend! Returning home with good non-sex memories (-:

Numazu, I am truely shocked to read about some members' conduct - citing you to the boys and / or calling you a liar!! These guys should be named shamed and banned.

Just jumping the thread to the top.....

Thx Spoon for all your reports and insights. Happy for you that you are soooooo happy with the visit. (-:

.....similar to ours, focusing on Soi Cowboy, Patpong and the likes?

Hi Guys, It's my impression forum members flock to Bangcock according to tourism seasons. If that's true, why is it so? I mean, doing these bar/club rounds isn't supposed to be impacted by weather or other touristic factors..... What ARE the high and low seasons for Thailand and for gaytown? When do I get the best chance of meeting most of you - Screwed, Lucky, Dreamy and Fresh?

Anyone wants to meet up? (-:

It's neither Ayutthaya nor Disneyland. It's hardly scaled down. Do yourself a favour: google it, and view photos. You won't regret it.

Hi All, I had no intention of responding to criticisms regarding my reports, because they were posted by holier-than-thou self-appointed PC purists. I changed my mind after reading those who rose to defend me - Jasper, Vinapu, Daydreamer (thank you guys!). They reminded me there are some here (too many?), who avoid posting at all or mentioning certain things, in order not to incur the wrath of these censors. Guys.....ignore them!!! What do you care if others criticize or attack what you had posted, in an impolite, rude, elitist, condescending, self-absorbed and/or contrary manner? Even if you would care under normal circumstances, here your anonymity is a foolproof shield. These negative souls are not worth it, and the forum is poorer for your silence. One of them advised "respect all boys equally". Wow, what an epiphany! I respect all boys as human beings equal to me. I do NOT respect all boys equally as professionals, just as I don't respect doctors and lawyers equally. Another accused me of elitism because I referred to " 'lesser' clubs". I had originally apostraphied the word "lesser", but that was actually a mistake. Lesser clubs are first of all a matter not of opinion but of fact: they don't offer shows, they offer fewer boys, and they even charge less. They ARE "lesser". Which, of course, doesn't mean that their staff or patrons are lesser persons. Enough with this PC equality BS!! A third chided me for reporting that a boy I had recommended had a small dick. Offing forum members are interested also / mainly / only in sexual features, unlike my detractor who claims to prioritize "character and mannerism". I call on all of those sharing my desire to read here also useful recommendations, to include such details. Finally, I was admonished for giving an "excessive" 3000 tip for a short-term session with Watt. I had since explained why I did that, but more important - as one of my defenders had already written - IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Dear colleagues, don't let them silence you. Ignore their rants. Don't respond, certainly not directly, and on no account mention their nicks. Just let them whither away. For those who are interested in offering CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, a PM would be both more polite personally and more pleasant groupwise..... Happy hunting (-:

For those interested also in sightseeing between bouts of debauchery, I recommend 4 sites which are beyond the main tourist destinations. For discriptions-explanations, please google. I'll make do with hopefully-enticing photos. [I wanted to post 30 of them, but I found out each one has to be uploaded separately, so I'll make do with only 1 of each site. If any of you are interested, I'll gladly whatsapp more photos.] The first 2 are in BKK, not too far from Silom: Jim Thompson's, and very close to it - the free Culture and Art Center. The other 2 require riding south: Erawan Shrine-Museum, and Ancient City - a huge open air museum of traditional Thai architecture and sculpture. I humbly submit Erawan and Acient are MUST SEE. Enjoy (-:

Thx Jasper, but I m NOOOOOO billionaire. 1000 baht = 33 $. When the boy is very likable and does his max, the sum doesn't look exaggerated to me. Also, a small personal contribution to the redistribution of wealth from the 1st world to the 2nd-3rd. (-:

For my final night, having seen 5 shows and 5 boys' parades, I decided to try another approach: off without drink before shows start. I planned to look for Watt at ML; if that didn't work out - try the list of 4 numbers (jotted down on Sunday) at Dream; and as a last resort - visit the 'lesser' clubs. Surprisingly, the plan was cut short at ML. I told the doorkeepers I want to off Watt without going in; they called the mamasam, who remembered me; and he called Watt. The boy was easy to talk to and very accommodating, so I paid the fee, he changed clothes, and off we went. As simple as that. As Drimvoiz had told me, Watt's English is much better than boys' average. He's studying tourism in order to become a fight attendant, and his general knowledge reflected this. He asked me in a roundabout way why I asked for him without ever meeting before. When I told him an internet-friend had recommended him, he was disappointed I didn't know Drimvoiz' real name. It was obvious this was a first for him. Like Kay, he declined my offer for a snack on the way. He was VERY happy to be offed so early; said he won't return to the club, but rather go to sleep early. As promised, he was very accommodating also in bed. Might be the best sucker I remember. Really passionate and eager to please. Chemistry compensated for his small dick. At least 9.5 out of 10. I gave him 3000 baht, and another flight ameneties bag was disposed off. (-: Watt too was happy at my proposal for free advertisement. He says he is a top, and a bottom if the top's dick isn't too big. # 19 at ML Line - watt1997 If anyone does off him upon this recommendation, you are welcome to cite Roni from Israel. He'll probably remember me, because he was quite proud to show off his knowledge regarding Kosher airlines meals (though was unfamiliar with the term Kosher).

On Sunday night I faced the eternal dilema: go back to a good place (Dreamboys), or try a new one? In such situations I let the cosmus decide, this time embodied by NewScene. He suggested we try out LuckyBoys. I got there before time and before him, sat at the back and looked at the stage. The boys were standing in 5 rows, 5 in each; every minute the front guy would move to the back. They were all apathetic just as in ML the night before, and none of them appealed to me. NS texted me from outside, and when I reported - he suggested we move to FreshBoys. MUCH smaller place, almost intimate. More explicit porn numbers, but none of the boys were for me. The mamasan tried to interest NewScene in a number of boys, but he too didn't like them. We exited and waited for Anddy and Mark to join us from the bar where they had sat. Guys, I'm glad to report: Mark is really HOT!!! He is way way beneath our average age, was sleeve-less, and had he taken his shirt off - would have been offed at model rates!!! Alas, we had to make do with the working boys..... )-: We entered DreamBoys at mid show. I immediatelly looked for and inquired about the other four on my yesterlist, but none were there. Kay was there, we exchanged smiles, but despite his grade-8 - I wanted to try a new boy. No one else caught my eye. After sitting the for a while, Andy had to retire and NS offed a boy. At Mark's suggestion I went with him to ScrewBoys, where he knew socially one of the guys. Screw was very much like Fresh; we could actually see the fine details of the cocks performing on stage. For me tbe mamasan called over the in-house big dick, a Vietnamese # 98. He sat between me and her, both of them massaging his dick through the trousers. Per their invitation I joined the effort, which very quickly proved their point. He also looked good, but answering my questions he said no to kissing and no to sucking. I wrote him in ggl-trnslt that he is an honest man, tipped him 200 baht, and (since again the other boys were unattractive to me) off we went. BTW, before going I also tipped Mark's friend # 94. He is both cute and nice. (I loved their elegant uniform - white shirt with colourful tie.) Those of you looking for tops - check him out. His name is Chung. Mark suggested I try Hotmale, but it was closed already at 1 am. I didn't know bars close at that hour, so Kay at Dream as a fallback was also gone. Never thought I'd pass through 4 bars in one night; and would have never imagined that in such a scenario I would come out emptybedded.... Didn't feel bad though. It was a nice experience, and it was great hanging out with NS, Andy and Mark.

Of course, But without an ounce of chemistry....

Should have posed this question at the btm of my post: How DO you engage with them effectively, given the deafening volume (not only at ML)? All the more so, since they barely speak English...

If he had, mamasan wouldn't have offered him...

Though it's of course superfluous, I'll state the obvious: PLEASE don't read into this and next report any criticism or condesendance or judgementalism toward any club or boy or anyone else for that member. These are my subjective impressions, tastes and preferences. On Saturday night decided to start the adventure at Moonlight, given its reputation and 3 names of big-cock boys. Arrived intentionally early, round 9; NewScene texted he'll join me at 9:30. Boys were rotating on stage, looking bored-tired and indifferent. None tried to vie for attention. The thing that most striked me was the way too high music volume; I couldn't understand the mamasan, though he was speaking into my ear. 30 hours later I could state without doubt that ML is at the extreme end of the bars on this issue. At some point I told the mamasan I'm into big dicks, and asked about the names given to me. He said the first was a no-off model, Watt wasn't working that night, and he called Charlee over. Mamasan agreed I talk with him outside for a couple of minutes. (Only later I realized he actually waved the boy's drink for this unusual proceedure.) We went outside. He looked good but was very phlegmatic, answering me in mono syllables. Though mamasan said off was 2000, he asked for 3000 but immediatelly relented. I said "maybe", and we returned inside. By then NS had arrived, and we watched the show. A lot of effort was put into it, especially the creative props. However, I found the erotic numbers mechanical and un-stirring; an impression that would recurr in all other clubs. I had hoped they would make me horny, but even the shower scene didn't. When the show ended I didn't feel like offing Charlee, and NS suggested we adjourn to Dreamboys. I had not thought about 2 shows in a row, but his enthusiasm was catchy. Thank you, NewScene. The moment I entered it was obviously different. The boys on parade were energetic and smiling, the volume was managable, and all seats were chairs/couches with backs, rather than stools. As NS put it, this club was "vibrant". I spotted and jotted down the numbers of 5 boys I liked. Without sharing with him the list, I asked the assistant-mamasan who has a big dick. Bingo! One of his recommendations was on my list - Kay number 18!! He came over. Better than passable English. Nice guy. So offed, and off we go. On the way he declined my invitation to eat something. At the hotel he registered, we went up, showered, and had a good time in bed: he was passionate, and a good kisser. 9 on a scale of 10. I tipped him 2500 and added an airline amenities bag, plus some soaps-shampoos he was interested in. He too was glad to hear that I could recommend him to friends, and asked me to report he doesn't bottom though he sucks (very well). So guys - Kay, 19 at Dreamboys.

Thx for the editorial comment. I partitioned my report precisely because it seems to me these are different "topics": logistics, saunas, bars. In a month time, a newbie scanning this forum will have an easier time searching through these titles.

Made sure ALL understood both question and answer. Can't vouch for reliability.....

Sorry Forgot to note. I asked in all places; they said no problem.

After sleeping off my jetlag, woke up very late on Saturday and at 2 pm entered Arena for a massage (on my way to Mahanakhon sky walk). I think I was the only customer there. 25 boys of various types sprung up, a few vying for attention. None were really enticing. I asked the mamasan who had big dicks, he pointed out 4, and I chose Pom. Paid mamasan 600. Good room and shower. Pom joined me after I has invited him, and soaped my back side. Massage was good; it seems he knew what he was doing. A little English; told me about his daughter at a village and about life in BKK. During massage didn't initiate anything sensual, but didnt shy away when he was positioned for fondling. In Thai terms, his dick WAS big. After I turned over he asked what I liked. Massaged my groin, and we engaged in mutual oral. Tried his best to please me. Then we showered again. Graded 8 of 10. I think the minimal tip was 1000, and I added 500. When I asked him if he wants me to advertise him, he was glad about the idea. Pom +66 844628261

Touchdown was Friday 14:20, 40 minutes ahead of time - that's a first! Decided to go with the minority recommendation. In taxi at 15:15, at hotel - 16:20. 525 baht including surcharge and tolls. Tarntawan is a basic hotel, quite adequate, no luxury, offers room service (which I didn't use), perfectly located, $70 per night through Agoda. Yesterday I asked around for a possible stay in Dec, since I'll probably have to cancel HK. Baht per night: Tarntawan - 2200 Siam Heritage - 2300 Tawana - 3300 Le Meridien - 7000 !!!!!!! TBC

Hi Guys, Haven't had time yet to post my reports; just a quick note about something that might be helpful, and I haven't seen mentioned. At the entrance to Moonlight there's a stack of folded flyers, with listings and a map. Should be useful for the uninitiated. FYI

I'll b there in 30 minutes. Can stream to y'all live.....