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(-: Like I wrote, we also split in order to look more inviting. On Malecon, there were straight couples and families; no single guys, certainly no gay cruisers. In the small park behind LV there were 3 gays, very unappetising.

Hi guys, I don't wish to come across as ungrateful; having asked so many questions, and then not reporting back. At the last moment, a young guy - whom I met in Singapore in November - decided to use his miles and join me in Cuba. I therefor had no need to cruise surf etc. What I can report is what we didn't see. Our last night there was a Thursday. We decided to check out some of what I've read here. At about 11 pm we strolled - together and separately - in the area of Malecon and 23. His gaydar is much better than mine, but he too didn't see any hint of gays, let alone of cruising. We went to Las Vegas bar. Since the show starts at 1:30 am, we decided to skip it. [Why start so late, especially before a working day?!] As suggested in this forum, it might be a good idea to sit outside the adjacent Toke cafe for cruising, but there are only two tables there. It seems both were taken by 6-8 mature local gays. Sorry; that's all I have. )-:

Hi Guys, I'm heading in 3 days to the Carribean, and will arrive in 3 weeks in Santo Domingo. I'm in touch with Manny, but since he's apparently focused on the "big muscels type" - I'm in search of other middlemen (Freddy, Christian, new ones, etc.). Anyone who wishes to help me (and others here) or those middlemen, please post (either here or in a PM) their whatsapp numbers and/or email addresses. The contact info already published in this forum for Freddy isn't working. If you have any direct contact info for providers, which they gave permission to share, please do so. Any other updated tips, from the last couple of months since I posted here a summary, would of course also be welcomed. I promise to report. Thanks (-:

How about giving Brazil its due with a forum only for it, and leaving all other countries in the Latin forum?

Guys, I need some guidance please. 1) On my cell, HUNQZ doesn't come up in the "play store". 2020; is there really no app?! 2) It also doesn't show in my Romeo app. 3) In Romeo on my desktop it does appear, and I can also access theindependant H website with my R password. However, when I do that and start search wierd things happen. For example: when I look for "XL and above" in Havana, I also get profiles from Nahsville or Cartagena. Any and all clarifications would be most helpful. Thanks.

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Thanks a lot Axiom, but I'm not on FB. Even the prospect of sexy cubans wouldn't entice me to join. (-:

Thank you VERY much Pauliero, for your VERY useful post. My conclusion is: no sex in Havana: my Spanish is only basic; too much trouble to find a guy; and then there's apparently an above 51% chance he's gay-4-pay who won't deliver. Pity; I was really looking forward to it )-: I'll hang around some cruising spots, but there's no way to discern between the frauds and the real; especially when it's not customary to discuss in advance what I'll be paying for.

Hi Guys, According to personal experience and other not-only-recent reviews, Adan is a no go. Could anyone contribute something for or against the other saunas? Octopus, Paraiso, Principe, Center. Thanks (-:

NoGag and others, I tried (first time) to look up your SD vids on xTube, using your nick. Failed. This is the page, with "No results found". https://www.xtube.com/search/video/nogagsuckersf What did I do wrong?

Hi Guys, In mid-Nov I spent there 5 days. Before going I read here posts about SGPR, and arrived rather pessimistic. Glad to report I was proven wrong. Grindr and other apps lighted up with messages, 95% of them no-pay. Hooked up with 4 guys; had a wonderful time. They enjoy meeting/talking/sexing with mature/old white men. Unlike a warning I read here, nobody demanded (or hinted at) a pre-date/meal/drink. Two of them were also very nice companions.

NoGag, I'll be in SD next month. Is Cine Lido in a safe-for-walking area? Day and night? What time do you recommend to go there? Thanks (-:

Curious, why don't you want to go alone barhopping or to Sodome? Is it dangerous?

Hi Guys, Other than Adan, I found online 3 more saunas: Center, Principe, Paraiso. Could anyone contribute anything for or against them? Any other recommendations in Madrid - venues or escorts? Thanks (-:

Thanks for the warning. I'll keep away when I'm next in Madrid. Any recommendations? other venues? escorts?

Thanks Divine; I used ear plugs, but of course a normal short conversation with boys is still impossible.

I humbly submit "it" should be substituted by "them": music is way too loud in all clubs. My impression was that in this sense ML is the worse.

I concur; such a response sits better with my (overly?) assertive nature. However, he didn't refuse; he tried to refuse, but I didn't let him. I did write that he later tried to satisfy me. Don't think it's appropriate to demand a refund for killing the vibe.

Vinapu, I had all my life felt that a long lost twin is wandering the cosmos, looking for me. At last, we find each other!!! You are much more in the know. How about this radical idea? You and other members known to managing staff propse to them to significantly lower the music, to concersational level. Can't see any risk in it, and might encourage offing. At least on a trial basis.....

On this unintended repeat visit I decided to take a look at the clubs I didn't visit 3 weeks ago. Also, I was piqued by DanKFQ's observations in his thread: that when he entered Golden Cock, the boys outside were actually surprised that a customer had showed up (duh.....); and that since he was the only one there, he became focus of all attention. I was hoping I'll spoil myself with a couple of twinks on each side.....Alas! it was not to be. Golden Cock turned out to be a small unappealing room, barely a meter between the 'stage' and the seats. As I entered, there were 6 'boys' standing in front of two customers. As all attention swerved toward the newcomer, the two looked between bored and alarmed. I took one look at the stage and fled: 2 were fat, by any definition of the term; 2 were old, well past past past their prime; and all were unappealing. I said thank you, exited, and went to Nature Boy. There was no need to enter; the guy outside said there was only one boy inside. Again "thank you" and backtracked to Tawan. I'm not into bodybuilders, but I figured since I was already there - I'd just take a peak. They readily agreed to let me look for a moment before paying, and so I did. The place looked shabby; there were a few customers and about 8-10 boys (actually men), all indeed with huge biceps. Most of them also had if not huge than at least big protruding bellies, the opposite of six packs. I retreated for a third time, and made my way to the main cluster. Hotmale turned out to be similar to Screw and Fresh, and no boy there drew my attention. Proceeded to Jupiter, which was the only club refusing a request for a peak. [It seems an unreasonable marketing policy, but I assume they understand their business better than I do.] Unsurprisingly I ended up again at the one club I remembered fondly: DreamBoys. I sat through two shows with routines I had already seen 3 weeks ago. The real gorgeous guy there is the one wearing a policeman uniform: great non-twinkish body, and he seems to really enjoys his moves. For some reason it didn't cross my mind to ask if he's off-able; maybe his is a model's rate. In any case, he was called to sit between two Chinese(?) young ladies, and I envied them. After offing a cute twink #72 and before leaving, I went up to the sitting policeman and gave him a 200 baht tip (which apparently surprised him, maybe because he's used to getting tips only on stage). Before offing Kim 72, the mamasan obliged me by bringing him and his drink to sit with me outside, so we could actually HEAR each other. He was nice, promised to do everything (kiss, suck, etc.), and off we went. It wasn't so nice once in bed. At some point when I motioned him to suck me, he said "I top no suck". I reminded him that's not what he had previously said, so he started opening a condom for a suck. Again I said no, he relented, but the vibe was already lost despite his efforts to satisfy me. After the deed was done, I paid him his due without additions. That was my final club night. I'm glad I've re-introduced myself to the scene after a 10-years hiatus. My thought was that if this goes well, I'll become a twice-a-year regular. However, as explained 3 weeks ago, I'm unattracted to the club scene. I would have enjoyed myself immensely sitting-interacting generously with a boy or two, evening in evening out, but I just can't stand the overpowering music making communication impossible. Also, to my disappointment, I don't find the racier routines erotically arousing. I SHALL be back, but with more realistic expectations. Thanks again to all who guided me through my research, and thus helped me make the most of gaytown BKK. Wish you all happy happy!

Or at least that's how Wat Samphran Dragon Temple, 35 kms east of BKK, is defined online. Certainly looks like it:

After my deluge of reports 3 weeks ago, I flew on to Australia and NZ. I was supposed to return home via a 4-days stop in Hong Kong, but since it's not hospitable nowadays - I substituted BKK for Hong Kong at almost no cost. It offered two consolations: less money, more boys. Friday noon I was on my way from Tarntawan to Magic Touch massage, when Grindr beckoned. Nice looking guy with better-than-usual English offered himself instead of Magic, and I agreed. Cambodian, whose name and nick is Chetra. Good thing I did, because when I stepped into the place just to get an impression, there was only one guy there. He said that in the afternoon-evening there'll be eight of them. I went on to buy some socks; bought also for Chetra who had asked for them, though I wasn't sure whether he was serious or joking. Our session was good, and since I enjoy more when I can converse-connect, I invited him to join me for hotel-breakfast the next day (specifying that no money will change hands) with the expressed intention of 'interrogating' him all about life in Cambodia and BKK. He readily agreed; our Saturday meal was VERY educational for me; and then he volunteered to join me on a walk to Lumpini park. On Sunday he also came with me to Dragon Temple. When we parted ways (he home, me to Chatuchak), I gave him 800 baht for his time. I later declined his offer of an additional massage, preferring variety. Back to Friday afternoon: after Chetra had left I walked to Chu Chocolate Bar for a meeting with Anddy, who had graciously agreed to share with me his 5 years experience as a farang living in BKK. He too withstood my interrogation, telling me about his life here, other expats, gay sex scene, forum community, etc. His chocolate was my treat, but his insights were a TREAT indeed. Thanks again Anddy! During my visit 3 weeks ago, an Indonesian 35 y/o PhD student (not MB) reached out to me, and we met. He's into older farangs, and wanted just to meet for coffee. There was quick chemistry between us, but our schedules didn't allow for another meeting. When I texted him I was returning to BKK, we set a date which was even better than the first (this time including hanky-panky). I think I've made a new overseas friend! Returning home with good non-sex memories (-:

Numazu, I am truely shocked to read about some members' conduct - citing you to the boys and / or calling you a liar!! These guys should be named shamed and banned.

Just jumping the thread to the top.....

Thx Spoon for all your reports and insights. Happy for you that you are soooooo happy with the visit. (-: