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Thx Vinapu. These "tons of shops" is the 'problem'. I know that finding satisfying guys and services is a matter of hit-or-miss. But I'm hoping the experienced have something good or bad 2 say about facilities and hygene and honesty in certain parlours.....

This sounds omnious. Either intentionaly or in the heat of the moment I venture beyond "mild groping", and suddenly a mamasan materializes with a demand for 1500 baht? Any advance warning? rules? definitions of "mild" and "short time"? .......... (-:

I apologize in advance if my question might be construed as negative or critical. I just want to make sure I understand. These gay guides-companions-drivers are good persons and good guides who are also gay, right? The differ from 'regular' guides only by also being able to guide service for the gay scene, right? They don't offer direct *themselves) or in-direct (hook-ups) sex services, right? The fact that most of them look hot is 'only' an eye-candy bonus, right?

Between Moonlight in the north and Jupiter in the south, there are at least 10 off-bars discussed in this forum. What about massage parlours? Are Arena and Senso the only ones? No places worth noting closer to the center of action? I'm looking for: a clean place with decent showers; service to include massage + at least two way body contact and oral; open in the mornings. I'd appreciate any and all guidance: recommendations and warnings. Thanks (-:

Thx; I will. But didn't the mamasan get angry? After all, if a customer is having his way with the boy right there, he won't be paying to off him. BTW, you wrote "customers" in plural. If it wasn't a typo, it sounds like an embroy-orgy.....

Thx. I deserve no credit for the title: it's in quotation marks..... (-: LONG is great; by LARGE - do you mean girth? If you do, it's a problem. I don't like them thick.

Where do I find him? Is he still at Jupiter? Any other "gigantic" boys, with whom I won't be disappointed?

Hi Guys, I’ve read that hot/adventurous interaction between client and boys is perhaps allowed in certain bars: “jerk off the boys within the bar, then leave a decent tip for them; or fondle each other around 20 minutes, before moving on to the next boy.” Apparently “Tawan , Super A, Golden Cock and Nature Boy are more adventurous; Dreamboys, Moonlight, Hotmale, Jupiter – not so”. Is that so? Since I like the idea, any guidance (recommendations, warnings)..... limits, tips, bar names?

Thx Vinapu, and sorry about that. I'm new to this website. It didn't cross my mind there are more than one forum for Thailand. I tried to google "timeless"..... )-:

OK Divine. "When in Rome..." Macaroni, thanks again for tutorial II. My expectations from shows are accordingly lowered. I was planning to off boys from a "big dick" show/competition, but I have no craving for a "rubber sausage" Do massages really open only at 15:00? I was hoping for morning sex before sightseeing.... Cut Muslims: Sorry for not being clear; I'll try again. Initially I assumed no cut in SE Asia. Then I read there ARE cut Muslim boys in BKK, from small Muslim minority groups. That's why I asked if there's any special place to find them. Cut, long, hard, shaved, upward-pointing; that's my favorite.

Guys, I hope I'm not out of the etiquette line with the following request; if I AM, I apologize. This interesting semantic-philosophic debate is so far from the original "BKK basics", it might be taking attention away from it. I'd appreciate it if you would open a new thread for your discussion. Thanks (-:

Thx ggobkk, but sorry - I'm unfamiliar with the forum you recommended. Where do I find it?

Very sorry NoGag to read about ur frustrations. Hope u find plenty of cocks in the more seedy places.

WOW!!! Thank you VERY much Macaroni! [My name is Roni. As a kid I wsa teased by the chant: roni macaroni...] Kudos for such a manifestation of the Golden Rule. Your blog looks like a treasure trove; I'll delve into it when I have more research time. And thanks to you I googled Fulani..... (-: Follow up questions: 1. "Off rates and boy rates vary" - between what? 600-900 and 1500-2000? 2. "Best shows" - I meant gay shows. "Dig dicks" that are real dicks, and shows that are more erotic fun than cold mechanic. (I don't like drag.) 3. "Anything to do in the day" - I didn't mean tourist sites; I meant sex, assuming these bars come alive only in the evening/night (by the way - what time DOES the action start?). 4. I asked about uncut, becasue previously I assumed there were non, but was told that naturally Muslim boys are. If that's true, I was wondering whether they flock to certain venues.

Hi Guys, The posts here reflect a membership well acquainted with BKK. I tried to mine for basics but there are just too many posts to do that effectively. So please humor me and other newbies, and share basics. Maybe someone could be time-generous and summarise updated info..... ? Where and when are the bests? what/whom to avoid? normal rates? Massage, shows/competitions? specific MBs recommended? How much is an "off"? a tip at the table? I'll be there three nights: Satur, Sun, Mon: any nights better/worse in any bars? Where and when are the best shows? Aything to do there during the day? Specifically for my taste: lean-masculine, not muscle builders; smooth and shaved; size matters a lot - length over girth; preferrably uncut; english-speakers - a big plus. Where do I search for this type? Thanks (-:

Thank you Xperiel VERY much for this insightful guidance. "Only upon sitting with a guy you will be able to asses his language and endowment." Language - sure, but endowment?! Do they flash it or put your hand on it, like in Latino saunas?!

Hi Guys, There are a number of seasoned travellers to Cuba in this forum, who stayed in a casa and reccommend verifying in advance there'd be no problem with bringing in 'boys'. Please recommend casas you've stayed in (warn against them?) or others enjoying good reputation, in terms of location, quality, rates AND boys-hospitality. Thanks (-:

No Gag, Please share names, addresses, rates of the various venues. I'll be there February. Is cruisinggays.com reliable? Since there are no dates there, I've always felt the info might be VERY outdated.....

Thanks Oz, A smile a day keeps the doctor away. So now I learned the basic rate for a ST is 2500. How much is an "off"? a tip at the table? Which bars are better? For the type I'm looking for? I'll be there three nights: Satur, Sun, Mon: any nights better/worse in any bars? Where and when are the best shows? Aything to do there during the day? Newbie questions.....thought I was there once, 10 years ago...

Thx, but that's not the case. That forum is filled with recent posts, all of them by seasoned visitors who are so well aquainted with everything there, so they don't even mention the basics. I tried to sift through those posts, but it's way too much reading to find basic details like how much is a conventional off.... I hope someone here would agree to devote 5 minutes to laying out basic updated info. (-:

Hi Guys, I'll be there Nov 15-19; will anyone be around? Since the intense discussion of the "new geography", almost nothing has been published. Please share updated info regading the basics: Where and when are the bests? what/whom to avoid? normal rates? Massage, shows/competitions? specific MBs recommended? Thanks. PS - my taste: lean-masculine, not muscle builders; smooth and shaved; size matters a lot - length over girth; preferrably uncut; english-speakers - a big plus.

Thank you Pauliero for this helpful Cuba summary. I posted one on the Dominican Republic; come February I'll be visiting both. 2 follow-up questions regarding this paragraph: "Service : average : 20/30 CUC. Can go down to 15 or even 10 and up to 40 and more (locals pay 5 to 20 CUC) . No discussion as in Brazil on what is going to be performed and for how much. Average monthly salary for Cuban is 25 CUC" 1) "No discussion" could mean either they're willing to do anything, or problemas in bed. Which is it? 2) The rate for a meeting really equals a monthly salary?! 1 meeting per day turns a pingero into a local millionaire?!

English aside, my favorite physical attributes are: lean-masculine not bodybuilding-muscular; biggest/longest cock possible, but not too thick; uncut; smooth and shaved. Which venues are best for this type? Which mamasans will be most helpful? I guess I can say all this to a mamasan, but is it customary to tell this also to waiters? Is it ok to ask to see his endowment before committing?

Right on! I've been wondering for years, since my firsts visits to BKK and Rio, why these providers aren't quick to see the financial benefit in mastering English.....

I'm glad to stand corrected, Oz. Your mention of Hot Male Bar is a perfect example of what I'm looking for: a place to find english speakers. If you and others could point me to likewise bars and mamasans, I'd be thankful. If whatsapp numbers of recommended 'boys' could be shared - even better! I'm looking for something inbetween a one-night BFE and a tourguide: a guy who's satisfying in bed AND nice to hang out with a couple of day while exploring the city. No need for any tour-guide experience/capabilities.