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Thx again Macdaddi. Regarding hygene, I meant the establishments, not the guys. I gather that's also not a concern... I continued my research. Are Babylon Spa and Boys Online Cabinas missing from your list, because they no longer exist?

You are right, and I apologize for my choice of words. What I meant to say was, that given your description of guy's attitude and their dicks, it would seem best to avoid them altogether...

Macaroni, your detailed response is a great contribution for everyone here!. Thanks a lot!! The bottom line for the sex craving tourist here: don't look for venues. The only way to go is the apps, and you - unlike z909 - discourage even that. Right?

Macdaddi, I salute you!!! After returning from two weeks in Cartagena, I opened a new thread asking for info about Bogota and Medellin. I don't know why I didn't notice your GREAT report-thread, including the link to the four clubs. Thank you VERY much for investing so much time and effort. This shouldn't be taken for granted. Again, I salute you !! Now we need something similar for Medellin. Anyone up to the task? One quick question, Macddadi: regarding the four clubs, you didn't mention anything about hygene. Is that because it's a non-issue? Thx again (-:

Hi All, Can anyone enlighten us about Korea, please.....

Hi Mr. Moses Siamroads, I visited your site before posting this question: What is the difference between a guide and a companion? Extra concierge chores?

just surf: travelgay, cruisinggays, gaycities, utopia-asia, spartacus and google.....

are there only two Africans or more? do they sport the famous African size?

I concur, and/but sightseeing IS worth it.

It's not only that they don't have any issue; they check the guy's ID, which adds to the secure feeling. Hotel's location is very good. The breakfast is boring.

No issues

Why "post" covid?! There is no "post" in the spike there...

Thx, but already too late.

I too would be glad to hear from NoGag on this, especially since he seems to be the most Cine-experienced here. However, someone has already posted here (it might have been Snwbrd) that the area is as safe as zona colonial proper. In any case, Uber works just fine in SD.

Due to several PMs I received regarding Mannny, I'd like to clarify. As mentioned before, Manny was VERY nice and helpful, and I'm NOT criticising him. As any respectful businessman he wants to maximize profits, and that's totally OK. It is also totally OK for customers to try to find lower prices.

Thx (-:

6th and final installment: Unfortunately I lack the stamina exhibited by others in this forum for many more and much longer sex sessions. I had 'only' 6 in 3 days. Given my shortened stay I also didn't get the opportunity to experience other attractions: Cine, Apollo, Binbin, Narcisco, street cruising, etc. I was there only 2 nights; between sex and the rain and my dinner with Claudio didn't get around to nocturnal exploits. I also spent way too much time on Grindr. OTOH, I enjoyed wandering liesurely around Zona Colonial - the slow pace, las palomas, the simple colorful street art on Conde.....(see some photos below). Next time I'll also venture into some of the historic buildings, though as a vetran of too many colonial cities throughout central and south America - I don't expect to be wowed. In my wanderings, I detoured to Cine Lido at 6 pm. It was closed, and I was told opening hours are 7:30-10:00. Throughout these wanderings I was disappointed not to be propositioned by anyone, even though I was a natural target. Maybe my gaydar isn't functioning; I enocuntered no targets either. I also didn't see in Paco, in the many times I was in or near it, any signs of gay tourists. I was propositioned only one time, on the bench near Paco. I was wating for one of my Grindr hookups, when an almost boyish-looking guy sat down and starrted talking in good English. His third sentence was "are you looking for guys?", and when I answered affirmitively - he offered himself. It was all in a very matter-of-fact kind of way. "No, thank you." "Why?" "becasue you're not my type; too young." "Am 19, I can show you." "OK, you're still not my type." OK, no problem." He continued talking about other stuff, every minute-or-two returning to what was on his mind. Claimed he had a 10 inch tool; could take me to a motel nearby that costs only 300 pesos an hour, and show me. "If you don't like - you go no pay." When he finally understood I'm not interested he asked whether I could buy him ice cream. I explained why I don't like to be milked this way, and we parted amicably. Even such a meeting gives me that special feeling; first time for me that a stranger talks to me on the street in broad daylight about his cock..... Glad I've come; enjoyed my time there, not to mention my suck-fantasy come true. "I shall return" as McArthur said, preferably when one of you experienced gentelmen are there too. It seems to me that some of the activities are much more fun when shared rather than alone, perhaps especially Narsisco. If any of you are interested, please alert me to your schedules. The uninitiated or anyone, feel free to PM me for anything. Thank you guys again. Happy hunting.

Part 5 - foursome: Per our discussion, Claudio sent me photos of 3 of his willing friends. Before I opened them I already thought that a 5some would really be toooo much, but one turned out to be unattractive, so I told him to bring 'only' the other two. They came on Thursday; this was to be my farewell-sex. He texted me from reception, but when I came down - a problem arose. The lady receptionist (who previously just took IDs) said that according to the rules only two guests at the same time are allowed. I answered that this isn't mentioned in the paper with 'list of rules" handed to me upon check-in (which was true), and that I checked it with them when making the reservation (which wasn't). She repeated again and again the rule, disregarding my objections. I broke the stalemate when I added that turning away a guest is unheard of in terms of hospitality and good manners, anywhere in the world - let alone in a hotel. She relented. Everything was managed politely, and the guys waited patiently. Since neither of Claudio's friends spoke a word of English, we proceeded immediatelly to undress, and I was looking at three handsome coffee-colored youngsters. Louis was thin and tall, Claudio is lean-athletic, and Roberto is a bodybuilder. What's more important - I told Roberto that his dick is like a" cannon" in term of length, girth, firmness and angle. He liked the concept and laughed at the way I pronounced it. This was my first time to enjoy three dicks simultaneously, and I savoured the moment. First, paying my respect to each one individually, then dealing with two together, and then all three. We started me kneeling on the floor, sucking one while rubbing the the others on my left and right. I felt like I was in a porn vid. After executing a couple of rotations, we moved to the bed. Claudio focused on pleasuring me, whie I was enjoying his friends. They were tops so they didn't suck, but at least Roberto invested in caressing me and my nipples (staying away from my dick). I wish I could report I held out for 3 hours, but all this went on for half that time. I climaxed again in Claudio's mouth, while sucking on roberto's cannon, and fondeling Louis' dick. JOB WELL DONE! Arranging this without Manny, I saved paying him 3,000 pesos for 3 guys. Each got the customary 2,500. I added 500 to Roberto, and 1,500 to Claudio. The photo doesn't do justice to their dicks. I was too excited to focus on the best moment and angle. Next time I'll devote more to directing and photgraphy. However, it DOES serve as a great reminder of me my eyes my hands my mouth being within centimeters of 3 cocks!!!

Kevie, maybe there are two Jorges...

Part 4 – Grindr: In the first 24 hours I received literally 100 messages. [Scruff was also very active; Hornet and Romeo – less.] Most didn’t mention money upfront; about four were explicitly “prepago”. The first one wanted 5,000 pesos; I answered “hahaha, I can find here for 1,000” (that’s what I read in the forum); he went down to 3,000; I stood my ground; we compromised on 1,500. The second one started with 3,000 and ended up the same. Didn’t meet them, but it taught me about market rates. Despite being a newbie in SD, and contrary to some cautious advice here, I do go for online hookups because of my strict protocol for such places: 1. I stay at a hotel with an ID procedure. 2. I meet at a café beforehand. 3. I speak basic Spanish. 4. I use my instinct filters. 5. I’m very clear about money. If the guy doesn’t mention money in the chat, I bring it up very apologetically-politely. If he says he isn’t for-pay, later at the café I mention it again in a complimentary manner, commenting how nice it is not to talk about money afterwards. If after the deed is done he DOES bring it up, I act surprised-hurt and stand my ground. To date, nobody became aggressive. If the guy is for-pay, I find a way to tell him in the café, in a light mannered way, a story about how once a guy demanded from me more than the agreed; a story that didn’t end well for the guy. The story is fabricated, but I think it helps. Both of these tricks don’t prevent me from being “generous”. If I hit it off with a non-pay guy, I give him afterwards at least “for taxi”, sometimes more. If it’s a for-pay guy, as usual I tip for better service. I had three Grindr hookups in SD. The first was for-pay, and the protocol operated like clockwork. The guy was sexy and hung just like Manny’s guys, and I paid him 1,500 + 500 tip, instead of Manny’s 1,000 +2,500. The second was a quasi English-speaking student who likes to play with white matures. We had a nice time both at the café and in bed. I gave him around 1,300 pesos. The third was an outlier. He said he wasn’t for-pay and he looked attractive and sounded nice in the app, but when we met he was less masculine and more introverted. After five awkward minutes I apologetically told him this isn’t going to work, and offered to give him money for the taxi and his time. He was disappointed, but wouldn’t take the money. I tried to convince him, but he was adamant and left. I don’t know if he was very principled or very hurt, but I felt very uncomfortable about it. Between my sessions with Jorge and Gago, I told Manny about the scores of Grindr messages. He said I should avoid them because these are “dangerous guys”, but of course he has his own ulterior motive. After Gago, when I declined to make another immediate ‘reservation’, his manner turned cold. He IS nice and helpful, but above all – a businessman. No critique meant. My two cents: even as a newbie – stay at a hotel, take commonsense universal precautions, and bypass Manny.

Part 3: Forgot to mention three things: 1. It's better to withdraw money from an ATM in the city, rather than exchange at the airport. 2. I began with the two vers; all the rest are pure straight tops, and Manny says they only fuck. 3. Claudio will be glad to be contacted directly, and gave me permission to forward his whatsapp number. Those travelling there and interested - welcome to PM me. Remember: he does everything except being fucked. To continue: Immediatelly after Claudio had gone, I reserved Jorge for the evening. As you can see, his butt is really SOMETHING: pure black, smooth, full, yummy texture, sooo photogenic; really enjoyed just playing around with it. However, Jorge was a disappointment; supposed to be vers, he wasn't really interactive. Most of the time he wasn't really hard, and to my surprise - he climaxed before I did (which rarely if at all happened to me before). I paid him, but reported to Manny. His response was: "I'll call him right now; I don't like this shit; he got to do the best of him; he gonna have problem with me". I have no idea what, if anything, transpired between them. For the next morning I booked Elgaro. Knowing he is a top, I had no expectations other than enjoy his huge dick. When we were going over the photos, Manny pointed out what he called large dicks, and asked why I turned them down. I explained that my definition of a large dick is one that needs two hands to cover it from balls to tip. That's exactly what Elgaro has, as you can see in the photos below. Also, no problems with getting and staying hard. I enjoyed playing, admiring, sucking it. However, the experience wasn't optimal. Elgaro (also called Gago) was very quiet, hardly spoke and hardly touched me. He just laid in bed (or at times stood up at my request) and let me do my thing. When I asked him to rub my dick, he did it in a strange way. Since I don't like my sex partners to feel uncomfortable (including paid ones), I asked him if something was wrong. He said it was the first time he touched a dick! I knew he's a straight top; it didn't occur to me that even such a sex provider could go about his job never touching a dick (assuming he was telling the truth). I asked him if he wanted to try sucking. He answered (for this we already used Google Translator) that he is willing if I pay more, becasue he needs the money; he has a second daughter coming. I politely declined, explaining that if a man doesn't like sucking - he probably won't do it well. He agreed. In any case, as already stated above, I really enjoyed his dick. I think it's the biggest one I've met.

Sure But gotta sleep sometimes.....

Part 2: On Tuesday morning Manny was almost two hours late. [Everybody at the hotel seemed to know him.] We went over the relevant photos, connecting dicks to faces. Experiencing a non-anal period, I decided to start with the two vers - Claudio and Jorge, and then the almost-biggest dick - Elgaro. [Manny said the biggest one is Burro, but I didn't like the rather flacid dick in his vid.] Per BlkSuperMan's important tip, I asked who’s the only guy who speaks English; it turned out to be Claudio - all the better! I wanted him immediatelly, but due to distance plus Latino time management – he arrived only at 3 pm (half a day of horniness lost). Claudio was everything his photos (upward curved hard erection) and blksm promised. It was great being able to converse with the guy, both in general and to clarify preferences. He was hot, sexy, lean-athletic, said he would do everything except being fucked - and so he did. I told him I want to fuck only his throat, and he cooperated willingly. Claudio intuitively pleasured me in all the ways I like - kissing, nipples, cuddling, sucking, etc; passionately so! I climaxed in his mouth without any hint of disdain on his part, and he cleaned me up almost-lovingly. In the "after" pillow talk, there was no rush. Claudio exhibited intellectual curiosity which quite delighted me. He said he was a graduate of 5 academic years in tourism, but was working as a policeman making $150 a month (so one sex session is worth a third of his monthly salary). Claudio also mentioned, by-the-way or not, that he pays Manny 500 pesos from the 2500 paid to him per session. He seemed genuinely angry to hear that customers pay Manny 1000 pesos (bringing Manny's cut to 1500 of 3500 = more than 40%). I seized the moment to ask him whether he wants to meet again without going through Manny. He readily agreed, but of course said that Manny shouldn't know about it. I then took it a step further, asking if he could bring with him one or two additional guys, so I would finally realize my fantasy - a suckfest with three huge cocks. He said he probably could, so I got all fired up. I added a sizable tip to his 2500, and invited him to a dinner date the next day - sin sexo. GREAT FIRST SESSION !!!

Hi guys, and thank you VERY much for all your guidance and tips, collectively and individually. Now it’s my turn to reciprocate. Here is the info-summary I collected and edited when preparing for the visit: https://www.boytoy.com/forums/topic/31823-dominican-republic-summary-of-sex-info/ And here is my lengthy report from last week, in installments. I intended to spend in SD 5 nights, but one of the airlines outrageously cancelled a flight, so I stayed only 3. I was in Whatsapp touch with Manny for a long time about tourism stuff. He answered my too many questions VERY patiently. Contrary to my intention, I decided not to rent a car-driver (for out-of-town sightseeing) from him or anyone else, because I was told by three different sources that gas prices make it way too expensive ($150 for 5 hours). Belatedly, on the way to my departure flight, the Uber driver checked it for me, and said it can be done for ‘only’ $80. I’ll think about it on my next visit. I did reserve Manny for a 2,000 pesos ($40) airport-hotel transfer, despite a much cheaper option I was offered in TripAdvisor, because I wanted to talk with him about his guys. For departure I used Uber which costs only 700 pesos, so you understand how much Manny makes on naïve tourists. I stayed at the Boutique Palace hotel: great location; good hotel; very good wifi. $90 per night incl everything, late checkout till 6 pm - $20. When a guy comes to visit a guest in his room, receptionist takes his ID / cedula - no questions asked. There was one hiccup, on which I'll report later. Two annoyances: 3 phones in the room, but lines in all the hotel are dead. Annoyed me only when I wanted a wake-up call. More annoying - at all times of day have to wait at least 5 minutes for hot water, and even then it's not really hot (to the point you have to temp it down). Enough with admin-logistics; you’re waiting for the hot stuff….. Three days before arrival I reminded Manny, and he sent me 72 photos of about 20 guys - faces, bodies, dicks. I emailed back that I don't like beards and bodybuilders, which eliminated 75% of the list. As mentioned before, I reserved an airport pickup with him, so we could discuss these guys. However, since my flight landed Monday 22:00, we talked on the way only in general and it was too late for him to sit with me on specifics when we got to the hotel. [I later asked Manny for permission to forward his Whatsapp number to anyone interested, and of course he gave it. I then asked if I can share photos of the guys, and again he was happy to agree. He made no distinction between faces and bodies/dicks, but I decided to be more cautious than him. So here are the some DR dicks and butts from Manny's menu.]

Were I not think per your recommendation, I wouldn't have posted this query. The hotel IS doing precisely that.