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.....I checked into Men's; had a long homeland phone call; ate at the hotel, and opened grindr. First message was from a 19 y/o American blond, complaining about being "bored and horny". He took up my offer to solve his problems, and so I did. It's only my second time having sex in two countries on the same day. First time was in 2012: morning with a young Chinese-Malaysian tourist in HCMC; evening at the long deceased Hero Massage in bkk. I actually rushed over there during a 5 hours connection, primarily to check whether I was up to it. Anyway, for some reason - I like the feeling.

I kept on hold a really hot athletic guy, who approached me on grinder: |\/|@b. I confess to my stupidity: took me too long to get this means - mb. He messaged me also on Jack'd, under the simple name MB. BTW, Jack'd is the only gay dating app I know, allowing screenshots of profile pics; guess it's a bug.... He charges 2500; I invited him Monday morning before checkout; he was well worth it. Look him up. Then I checked out; waited an additional hour at DMK airport for a delayed flight to Siem Reap; and.....TBC in the Cambodia forum... (-:

This is just a short note to warn the uninitiated not to follow my timing. I read about midnight nudity leading to 01:30 orgy on Fridays. I don't remember reading ONLY fridays. Probably my carelessness. Anyway, went on Saturday, enjoyed the atmosphere and 3 masculine almost nude dancers, took some fotos, gave some tips, but experienced nothing scandalous. PS 1 - I was the only old and the only farang. No one paid any attention, or stared in an unpleasant manner. PS 2 - for those navigating there with googlemaps, don't search for GASS (which will lead u astray) but rather for White Rabbit (GASS is on its 2nd floor).

Tomorrow I fly to Cambodia. My schedule is: Siem Reap nov 9 - 12 Phnom Penh nov 12 - 16 As in bkk, I'll b glad to meet up with anyone wishing company and / or joint explorations. First drinks on me; feel free to PM me. (-:

Thx. I wasn't.

Thx for the tip. R there foam parties also in pattaya ?

Friday morning: report writing; expanded satisfactory Foodland breakfast; some grocery shopping; off to continue my gallery hopping. Unfortunately, this time all save one was a dud. I think the route took me about 3 hours and 3 kms, from the southwestern point of chinatown back to the hotel. My feet certainly earned a massage; I pre-booked N from Sun to come to my hotel room at 4 pm. I first gave him the added tip for Monday's session, and then continued to a 90 minutes one. Unsurprisingly N was just as good as previously, this time freely sharing about his life and plans. Again, for me the conversing adds a lot. God rested on the 7th day, and so do I; the day beginning on the evening before. I treated myself to a DELICIOUS and elegant dinner at Meridien; spent the evening-night reading and chatting in my room; then treated myself to a disappointing breakfast buffet at Montien; continued my rest; and in the afternoon went to Lupini park to listen to the crows cawing and watch the long big lizards swimming lazily. After dark I resumed my carnal pursuits by visiting 1/0 sauna. Enterance is 450, but as a promotion they gave me a coupon for another free enterance; lucky me. I arrived at the midpoint of 7:30-8:30 "event": 4 guys with green-glowing neck rings on a low stage (dark room of course), interacting with patrons - fucking sucking fucked sucked. There were 30+ guys around them, most of which were just watching. There was also some touching groping between patrons. Off and on I contributed my part to the action. Getting a little hot I retreated a toward a source of cool ventilation, not noticing that I was partly standing in one of the doorways. Soon every groping hand of guys entering or leaving was introducing itself to my erection. If (BIG if) I observed correctly in the dark some expressions or body language, it seemed that certain passersby were pleasantly surprised by my relative length, devoting more HJ time to the interaction. (Based on the times when I reciprocated, medium me was bigger than all others.) This being a first to me, I was quite satisfied to stand my ground for like 10 minutes (without blocking the door), until I exploded. Notwithstanding this hot experience, if memory serves (another BIG if), 1/0 is one of the best saunas I have visited, maybe second only to Taipei. 5 floors (the event is at the back of the 5th), sqeaky clean, very well organized, nice bar without loud music; welcoming receptionist with excellant English. At least 50 patrons; receptionist said not only on Saturday night. Most were young and local, but also a few other combinations. I saw only two farangs older than me. Very good ambiance. Tomorrow I'll use the free coupon to experience beyond the event.

Thx vinapu; found it. No wonder failed earlier; on googlemaps it appears in some unaccessible back alley.

M not surprised. OTOH, I have met mamasans wo detail what each guy does and does not do...

This morning - Foodland. American breakfast minus the meat (no minus in price) was too small; 93b. Tomorrow I'll add a salad. At half past noon I headed out to try 19-teen massage. Got confused when the location I saw in the street didn't fit the map. Turns out they have 3 branches within a radius of 200 meters. Tried the first; only 2 unattractive boys. "So sorry. You want more boys - come back 3 hours." Same thing at the other branches, so I went to Paradise. None of the 5 guys got me excited, but I didn't want to continue searching. Again 600b for 1 hour. In terms of facilities decor etc, this place is significantly above others I remember. Even stopped on the way up to take a photo of a delicate Thai golden hand nicely lighted. T gave me an ok massage; nothing special. 40 minutes into it he asked if I want "special and HJ". I asked how much; he said 1500 (blessed b the straightforward); I said ok. He had some strange body touching, but the groin treatment was ok. Nevertheless, for some reason I didn't climax. At some point he asked "u cum", to which I answered yes, assuming he meant in general. After investing more effort, all of which I enjoyed but didn't advance the cause, he suddenly changed something in his HJ technique. It got me squirming and writhing like never before. Afterwards I intentionally refrained from asking what exactly he had done; better to keep it a mysterious memory. Added 300 to his tip. Short respite at the hotel, and finally - after 3 days in bkk - I stepped out of Silom. Went by myself gallery hopping, only non- traditional art. Using Grab motorbike is like an Asian hobby of mine; the way they wind between the cars is also an art. Anyway, saw some really beautiful or interesting stuff; for example, floors 2 and 3 at River City is a treasure trove. Wish I could share some photos, maybe especially from a small exhibition titled "Intimate Elsewhere" - fancy words for gay sex. Unfortunately the eternal "error 200" prevents me from uploading photos, even when I screenshoot or downsize them )-: Bike dropped me off at Avarin for a one hour much needed foot massage (300b). Dinner, and at 22:30 I went to check out the "sleazy" or "hands on" ones. Despite my research and questions asked patient answers given, it was not what I had expected. As I opened the small door at New Nature Boys, I saw a narrow hall with some seats, at the end of which was a smaller open room. In it were sitting three guys and a woman with their backs to me. I looked around in wonder and said hello; no one responded. Everything looked so grubby and unwelcoming, I immediatelly left. Super A was different: wider longer room, sofas on the right, tv and 3 boys on the left who stood up as I entered, kitchen counter at the end, music blaring, no patrons. Mamasan explained "have boys, these two Thai this one Lao, have rooms upstairs, 2000b." The athletic Lao guy (only one shirtless) looked really good, so I sat and motioned him over. No drink was offered. This isn't a bar; let alone a gogo one; it's a short time waiting room in a brothel. Mamasan said "he give massage he top he also suck". I tried to make some talk, but nothing from him beyond name. However, good smile and indeed hands on, so off we went. The rooms r bottom tier quality, but clean. I wasn't invited to shower (duh?), but had to wait 10 minutes for him to return from doing so. L stripped down to underwear and started a massage. It was either some strange Lao massage unfamiliar to me, or else he was faking it. I do hope amateurs / pretenders aren't causing us any damage.... 20 minutes later he asked me to flip, and took off his underwear. Per observations here about Lao endowment, his was indeed more impressive than usual. As the caressing progressed, it became obvious he was comfortable only with perfunctory touching and being serviced. He went through the motions of sucking, but his reluctance was palpable; I'll spare u the details. I really cannot enjoy sex with a (paid) partner who is obviously suffering. We switched to HJ, and the whole session was over in 35 minutes. He went to his long shower again, I dressed and decided not to wait for him again. Downstairs there was only a boy inviting me to sit. I said no, and he went to call mamasan from the street. I paid her immediatelly; the unsatisfactory session didn't rise to the level of payment disputes. She asked "was good?" And I motioned her outside, to talk quietly without music background. I asked her if he was new, she said yes. I told her - no anger no accusation - it was not good; that the boy isn't into it; and that he doesn't want and cannot suck. She didn't seem surprised, and we said goodbye. First and last visit to that part of Silom. On the way back to my hotel, V the sports teacher messaged he wants to meet again..... (-:

At long last I slept 8 hours and woke up at 11. Just as I was about to leave for breakfast, a thunderstorm broke out. I waited for almost an hour, using the time to write up another report. The rain - the deluge - stopped, and I walked to Pancake Palace. Its street offered the quintessential bkk experience: wading ankle deep in water. It wasn't worth it. It's not a palace, and the food is just ok. Tomorrow - foodland. I went to check out Senso. 4 unappealing guys, but more important - price policy: 3400 total for one hour. Comparing to Sun (600 + tip), this means 2800 for masseur upfront irrespective of quality / satisfaction. I politely white-lied about coming back another time, and departed. On my way back I tried to scout Gass location, but failed. I went through Soi Silom 2/1, but saw no sign. No access from Crowne's side. What m I missing? Do signs come alive only at night? Back at the hotel I was back to the apps. I had opened them only 24 hours after arriving, and they were the reason I went to sleep late. On Romeo I was messaged by a 37 y/o sports teacher; this being Thailand he looked 10 years younger. His English is very good, his chat signaled a nice person, into mature, handsome with athletic body. Made to order for me. I invited him to dinner, but he was about to eat with friends, so we later met in my room. Long BF experience (without pay): conversation, sex, cuddling pillow talk. My FAVORITE.

That's my problem, and the difference between us. Mainly due to the conversation-prohibiting volume, and also the quality of the shows, I don't feel entertained. I wish I did; I also wish I had your talent of bantering with the staff...

That's my problem, and the difference between us. Mainly due to the conversation-prohibiting volume, and also the quality of the shows, I don't feel entertained. I wish I did; I also wish I had your talent of bantering with the staff...

Of course u were Maurice, as always. If I was perceived criticising or cynical - I apologize. (-: For some reason it had never occured to me there might b other Jewish members here, let alone kosher-observing ones. Silly me...

WOW Thnk u for ur vast contribution. I AM aware of Chabad venues worldwide. I humbly suggest we leave to me how I manage my diet with kosher rules, me being semi observant. However, guys interested in the subject r welcome to PM me (-:

By "health" I meant what my doctors proscribed, due to some specific prblms. (I like their fish fillet.) Thank u Emiel for caring about my health (-:

With the afterglow of Nam's massage I wandered the streets, off and on checking out the brkfst places recommended on the forum. BTW, buffet rates at the more upscale hotels mentioned r 600-900b. Went back to my room, wrote up yesterday's report, opened up grinder and other apps and fell asleep. Woke up at 20:30 and went to grab 'dinner' at McDonalds. I m not a connoisseur of food due to three dietary constraints: health, vegetarian, Jewish kosher. On the way back I stepped into the Rainbow Dragon, hoping to meet - per forum members' observations - some non-Thai guys (better endowed?) who might speak Enlish. The four waiters / hosts I saw were not tempting. More forbidding was the music volume. I can understand (though dislike) it in a gogo bar, cannot comprehend the logic in a host bar, seemingly based on keeping conversation and drinks flowing... I entered Dream Boy a couple of minutes before the show started. They tried three times to sit me at the front (pressure) row; I insisted on sitting at the higher back seats. The usual 30 boys on stage (only 6 patrons), again - almost all indifferent. "Almost", because one guy (#1) was enthusiastically fighting for my attention. He wasnt athletic as I prefer, but lean cute with a wonderful shock of hair. A minute after the boys disappeared and the show started, he was the only one to come back, and sat with a friend at the end of my row. As he waived, I motioned him over. Gam or Gum immediatelly called for a drink. He claimed to speak English, but initiated a string of questions and suggestions through the translator. All the while my hands were roaming his back and chest, he was dry kissing me on the lips ("not allow tongue"), and per my encouragement - also massaging my crotch. The dark back row is better for such activity. The show was a complete flop: short, less talented ladyboys, less erotic boys and cocks. I viewed Gam's company as a compensation for the lackluster performance. He wrote "550 off 3000 tip". I said the tip was too expensive, he wrote 2500. I agreed, after taking a photo of his translator page saying "if not do everything no pay". At the hotel he proved a man of his word, although he was obviously nervous about "first time shower together". Throughout he was angling for a second meeting and more ("u take me pattaya"), but for me he was a one time encounter. 400 my drink, 500 his, 550 off, 2500 him = 4000b. R we not better off with massage or apps? I won't dream about returning to Dream...

This time she just touched very gently only one guy, who flinched away

VERY fortunately for me, Emiel took me up on my offer of meet+drinks, before he takes off on the next day. Him being the veteran, I decided to just follow his lead. We met at Guido's at 19:40, for dinner and get-to-know and comparing forum notes and tutoring (me of course). Later, we relocated to Midnight bar, where we met a smiling masculine waiter called Pey whom Emiel knows. When Pey told me I'll see sexy boys in the bars, I countered I'm seeing one now. He got the hint but didn't pursue... 22:15 we entered Freshboys before the show started. There were 8-10 patrons (more joined later), and 20+ boys in shiny white short pants rotating for inspection. Comparing notes, we discovered similar preference to masculine over twinkish. All except maybe 2 boys made no effort at catching patrons' attention, which (again for both of us) is a turnoff. The show was tasteful but rather standard. One of the two big cock dancers caught my attention, not only for his most prominent feature. Alas, when the boys returned after the show with their numbers, he wasn't among them. Only one boy was invited for a drink with a patron. To her credit, the bulldog-faced mamasan neither nagged nor even approached. Avid forum readers will have already learned that Banana is Emiel's bar du jour; I can well undrstnd why. True, its program features too many ladyboys performances. However, the costumes music energy certainly standout. Inbetween there were big cocks, quantity and quality superceding Fresh. Coming back from the toilette, I chanced upon one of the guys (no shirt) seated waiting for the final line up. Since he saw me glancing at him earlier, he motioned me over. Very quickly my hands were roaming over his torso, his friend encouraging me. I tipped him 150b for this short interlude. Before leaving, with all the boys on stage, I also tipped the biggest cock (known by Emiel). At this point (maybe even earlier) offing wasn't my main objective, for three reasons. One, I wanted to maximize my time with Emiel - great companion great tutor. Two, I was feeling the jetlag. Three, I was waiting for an important and long conversation from home at 01:30. All this to explain that I wasn't dispirited... Since I wanted to see also something "sleazy", we went to Goodboys ten minutes before the 01:00 show started. Unfortunately nothing sleazy. 6 patrons, 30 boys, 1 mamasan who didn't move from our back sofa but also didn't nag. Unlike Fresh, many boys (mostly twinks) were actively gesturing at us. I went up close to the stage to pick one, which caused a great excitement. Despite his initiating smile, the boy I chose turned out a dud. I bought him a drink and tried to make conversation. He was very quiet and shy. As I stroked his back, he touched my leg hesitantly. When I lowered my hand to the top of his underwear, he squeazed my crotch twice and then froze. Not wanting to continue the awkwardness, I tipped him saying "sorry this isn't working" and sent him on his way. A couple of minutes later the show started. The 2nd ladyboy song was my cue to leave. With a heavy heart I bid farewell and gratitude to Emiel, and departed. End of a great introductory night (-:

Since there's a lively discussion on this form regarding arrival logistics, I timed myself. I was out of the plane at 15:01, and cleared immigration at 15:24 (no priority). AOT limo service wanted 960b for the ride to Silom, so I followed captainmick's advice. Taxi driver wanted 700, but relented when I insisted on 500. It took 8 minutes just to get out of the parking lot, and 57 minutes more to reach the Raya Surawong. )-: My first Thailand visit was way back in 2009; purely touristic, during my days of innocence. This is my 4th sex visit in thailand since 2019, a mere pittance compared with the many bkk aficionados here. Nevertheless, Silom and Surawong looked familiarly welcoming (-:

...unless I'll develop schizophrenia. My loss )-:

Dates/locations: Bkk 2 - 9; SR 9 - 12; PP 12 - 16; Phu Quoc 16 - 20; Pattaya 20 - 29. "First" drinks, because I got the impression that for some - beer is a hobby second only to sex, and because I hope to meet as many as possible; don't want to go bankrupt. And then again, "first drinks" can also mean the first 4..... Floridarob, it would b an honor and a pleasure!

Tomorrow starts my month-long visit to SE Asia, a week for each in the following order: bkk, cambodia (SR + PP), Phu Quoc (4 days), Pattaya. Having researched the threads extensively, I extend my gratitude to the many contributors, to guys who took the trouble to answer my (too many?) questions, and to not a few who PMed me more discrete info. THANK YOU I'll b glad to meet up with anyone wishing company and / or joint explorations. First drinks on me; feel free to PM me. (-:

Maybe u can reserve a room for two with two seperate beds, and register a guy. If u can't rotate guys, u can rotate hotels.

Thx for sharing (-: