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For those interested also in sightseeing between bouts of debauchery, I recommend 4 sites which are beyond the main tourist destinations. For discriptions-explanations, please google. I'll make do with hopefully-enticing photos. [I wanted to post 30 of them, but I found out each one has to be uploaded separately, so I'll make do with only 1 of each site. If any of you are interested, I'll gladly whatsapp more photos.] The first 2 are in BKK, not too far from Silom: Jim Thompson's, and very close to it - the free Culture and Art Center. The other 2 require riding south: Erawan Shrine-Museum, and Ancient City - a huge open air museum of traditional Thai architecture and sculpture. I humbly submit Erawan and Acient are MUST SEE. Enjoy (-:

Thx Jasper, but I m NOOOOOO billionaire. 1000 baht = 33 $. When the boy is very likable and does his max, the sum doesn't look exaggerated to me. Also, a small personal contribution to the redistribution of wealth from the 1st world to the 2nd-3rd. (-:

For my final night, having seen 5 shows and 5 boys' parades, I decided to try another approach: off without drink before shows start. I planned to look for Watt at ML; if that didn't work out - try the list of 4 numbers (jotted down on Sunday) at Dream; and as a last resort - visit the 'lesser' clubs. Surprisingly, the plan was cut short at ML. I told the doorkeepers I want to off Watt without going in; they called the mamasam, who remembered me; and he called Watt. The boy was easy to talk to and very accommodating, so I paid the fee, he changed clothes, and off we went. As simple as that. As Drimvoiz had told me, Watt's English is much better than boys' average. He's studying tourism in order to become a fight attendant, and his general knowledge reflected this. He asked me in a roundabout way why I asked for him without ever meeting before. When I told him an internet-friend had recommended him, he was disappointed I didn't know Drimvoiz' real name. It was obvious this was a first for him. Like Kay, he declined my offer for a snack on the way. He was VERY happy to be offed so early; said he won't return to the club, but rather go to sleep early. As promised, he was very accommodating also in bed. Might be the best sucker I remember. Really passionate and eager to please. Chemistry compensated for his small dick. At least 9.5 out of 10. I gave him 3000 baht, and another flight ameneties bag was disposed off. (-: Watt too was happy at my proposal for free advertisement. He says he is a top, and a bottom if the top's dick isn't too big. # 19 at ML Line - watt1997 If anyone does off him upon this recommendation, you are welcome to cite Roni from Israel. He'll probably remember me, because he was quite proud to show off his knowledge regarding Kosher airlines meals (though was unfamiliar with the term Kosher).

On Sunday night I faced the eternal dilema: go back to a good place (Dreamboys), or try a new one? In such situations I let the cosmus decide, this time embodied by NewScene. He suggested we try out LuckyBoys. I got there before time and before him, sat at the back and looked at the stage. The boys were standing in 5 rows, 5 in each; every minute the front guy would move to the back. They were all apathetic just as in ML the night before, and none of them appealed to me. NS texted me from outside, and when I reported - he suggested we move to FreshBoys. MUCH smaller place, almost intimate. More explicit porn numbers, but none of the boys were for me. The mamasan tried to interest NewScene in a number of boys, but he too didn't like them. We exited and waited for Anddy and Mark to join us from the bar where they had sat. Guys, I'm glad to report: Mark is really HOT!!! He is way way beneath our average age, was sleeve-less, and had he taken his shirt off - would have been offed at model rates!!! Alas, we had to make do with the working boys..... )-: We entered DreamBoys at mid show. I immediatelly looked for and inquired about the other four on my yesterlist, but none were there. Kay was there, we exchanged smiles, but despite his grade-8 - I wanted to try a new boy. No one else caught my eye. After sitting the for a while, Andy had to retire and NS offed a boy. At Mark's suggestion I went with him to ScrewBoys, where he knew socially one of the guys. Screw was very much like Fresh; we could actually see the fine details of the cocks performing on stage. For me tbe mamasan called over the in-house big dick, a Vietnamese # 98. He sat between me and her, both of them massaging his dick through the trousers. Per their invitation I joined the effort, which very quickly proved their point. He also looked good, but answering my questions he said no to kissing and no to sucking. I wrote him in ggl-trnslt that he is an honest man, tipped him 200 baht, and (since again the other boys were unattractive to me) off we went. BTW, before going I also tipped Mark's friend # 94. He is both cute and nice. (I loved their elegant uniform - white shirt with colourful tie.) Those of you looking for tops - check him out. His name is Chung. Mark suggested I try Hotmale, but it was closed already at 1 am. I didn't know bars close at that hour, so Kay at Dream as a fallback was also gone. Never thought I'd pass through 4 bars in one night; and would have never imagined that in such a scenario I would come out emptybedded.... Didn't feel bad though. It was a nice experience, and it was great hanging out with NS, Andy and Mark.

Of course, But without an ounce of chemistry....

Should have posed this question at the btm of my post: How DO you engage with them effectively, given the deafening volume (not only at ML)? All the more so, since they barely speak English...

If he had, mamasan wouldn't have offered him...

Though it's of course superfluous, I'll state the obvious: PLEASE don't read into this and next report any criticism or condesendance or judgementalism toward any club or boy or anyone else for that member. These are my subjective impressions, tastes and preferences. On Saturday night decided to start the adventure at Moonlight, given its reputation and 3 names of big-cock boys. Arrived intentionally early, round 9; NewScene texted he'll join me at 9:30. Boys were rotating on stage, looking bored-tired and indifferent. None tried to vie for attention. The thing that most striked me was the way too high music volume; I couldn't understand the mamasan, though he was speaking into my ear. 30 hours later I could state without doubt that ML is at the extreme end of the bars on this issue. At some point I told the mamasan I'm into big dicks, and asked about the names given to me. He said the first was a no-off model, Watt wasn't working that night, and he called Charlee over. Mamasan agreed I talk with him outside for a couple of minutes. (Only later I realized he actually waved the boy's drink for this unusual proceedure.) We went outside. He looked good but was very phlegmatic, answering me in mono syllables. Though mamasan said off was 2000, he asked for 3000 but immediatelly relented. I said "maybe", and we returned inside. By then NS had arrived, and we watched the show. A lot of effort was put into it, especially the creative props. However, I found the erotic numbers mechanical and un-stirring; an impression that would recurr in all other clubs. I had hoped they would make me horny, but even the shower scene didn't. When the show ended I didn't feel like offing Charlee, and NS suggested we adjourn to Dreamboys. I had not thought about 2 shows in a row, but his enthusiasm was catchy. Thank you, NewScene. The moment I entered it was obviously different. The boys on parade were energetic and smiling, the volume was managable, and all seats were chairs/couches with backs, rather than stools. As NS put it, this club was "vibrant". I spotted and jotted down the numbers of 5 boys I liked. Without sharing with him the list, I asked the assistant-mamasan who has a big dick. Bingo! One of his recommendations was on my list - Kay number 18!! He came over. Better than passable English. Nice guy. So offed, and off we go. On the way he declined my invitation to eat something. At the hotel he registered, we went up, showered, and had a good time in bed: he was passionate, and a good kisser. 9 on a scale of 10. I tipped him 2500 and added an airline amenities bag, plus some soaps-shampoos he was interested in. He too was glad to hear that I could recommend him to friends, and asked me to report he doesn't bottom though he sucks (very well). So guys - Kay, 19 at Dreamboys.

Thx for the editorial comment. I partitioned my report precisely because it seems to me these are different "topics": logistics, saunas, bars. In a month time, a newbie scanning this forum will have an easier time searching through these titles.

Made sure ALL understood both question and answer. Can't vouch for reliability.....

Sorry Forgot to note. I asked in all places; they said no problem.

After sleeping off my jetlag, woke up very late on Saturday and at 2 pm entered Arena for a massage (on my way to Mahanakhon sky walk). I think I was the only customer there. 25 boys of various types sprung up, a few vying for attention. None were really enticing. I asked the mamasan who had big dicks, he pointed out 4, and I chose Pom. Paid mamasan 600. Good room and shower. Pom joined me after I has invited him, and soaped my back side. Massage was good; it seems he knew what he was doing. A little English; told me about his daughter at a village and about life in BKK. During massage didn't initiate anything sensual, but didnt shy away when he was positioned for fondling. In Thai terms, his dick WAS big. After I turned over he asked what I liked. Massaged my groin, and we engaged in mutual oral. Tried his best to please me. Then we showered again. Graded 8 of 10. I think the minimal tip was 1000, and I added 500. When I asked him if he wants me to advertise him, he was glad about the idea. Pom +66 844628261

Touchdown was Friday 14:20, 40 minutes ahead of time - that's a first! Decided to go with the minority recommendation. In taxi at 15:15, at hotel - 16:20. 525 baht including surcharge and tolls. Tarntawan is a basic hotel, quite adequate, no luxury, offers room service (which I didn't use), perfectly located, $70 per night through Agoda. Yesterday I asked around for a possible stay in Dec, since I'll probably have to cancel HK. Baht per night: Tarntawan - 2200 Siam Heritage - 2300 Tawana - 3300 Le Meridien - 7000 !!!!!!! TBC

Hi Guys, Haven't had time yet to post my reports; just a quick note about something that might be helpful, and I haven't seen mentioned. At the entrance to Moonlight there's a stack of folded flyers, with listings and a map. Should be useful for the uninitiated. FYI

I'll b there in 30 minutes. Can stream to y'all live.....

???? I m a newbie. As I wrote, all my summaries were based on research, not experience.

I call on those in the know to create a short version here.

Hi Guys, Rather belatedly I found out that a list i had prepared 10 years ago is lost. eyond "sa moke", I don't remember anything. Didn't find anything in google. Could someone please direct me to a useful source? Thanks (-:

Thx And I'll remember your particular contribution to said enjoyment.

the tall tower with the glass skywalk near silom.....

Vinapu, with your permission I'd like to philosophize about this beyond BKK gaytown or sex. I believe your position reflects one of the PC commandments of our era: Thou Shall NOT be Judgemental! I adhere to this commandment regarding lifestyles / choices / preferences / opinions / etc. I do not adhere to it when somebody is ethically / morally / criminally wrong. It's one thing when a boy/escort isn't his best; it's quite another when he turns out to be a fake/fraud or dishonest or with a character/attitude that's obviously not temporary. Examples: a guy who goes back on his promises, a guy who keeps nagging for money, a guy who comes up with excuses to cut the session short, etc. I think it's our duty to warn, so other prospective patrons wouldn't fall prey, and so the boy learns the hard way. "Do unto others..." - you would want to be warned about such guys; why not warn others? Of course such a review should be factual and respectful, and of course each reader would draw his own conclusions. Same same goes for accolades and recommendations: your fellow men here would like to hear about FANTASTIC guys, and these boys deserve free positive publicity. (-:

I agree with you regarding taste and preferences, but it's always good to point out basic/general characteristics (attitude, honesty, passion, etc.) and warnings.

Solo traveler here.....

The last sentence is certainly true, though not sure why that should be so. Helping about specific people (in a respectful manner) would be very effective, as is done in review forums on other sites. That said, when members here switch to PMs - they are more forthcoming about specific boys, which has helped me quite a lot.

Are these dancers for offing? Is so, shouldn't they be wearing number tags?