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Should I assume waiters are for offing? Should I feel free to ask? PS That's the kind of exceptional 'rich' potential I was asking about, when I opened this thread.

Thx I don't need to. I'm staying at Tarntawan, and am glad that they require. It's a great and simple safety measure.

I've seen no mention of this in the posts. Isn't it required?

Thx, but that's not what I meant. Do boys in bars when seating with patrons ever get grabby fingers?

Great story; I salute you! There's a Shameless Mack in these forums; now there's also a Shameless Thaiophilus.

Haven't come across any reports on pickpockets, even though in crowded bars - when horniness trunphs watchfullness - it's to be expected. Is there really no such problem?

Mining these forums and posts, I found two partially-conflicting insights. OOH, mamasans are best qualified to assist in finding the best guy for you. OTOH, they also have - or might have - ulterior motives (e.g. - recommending a boy who won't do what you want becsue they don't have someone who will), not the least of which is getting a tip for themselves. How to know when to trust? Any specific mamasans, reliable or not?

Thx. Great advice! Will do on my 1st day.

NO chance I'll ignore the DIVINE you.

Divine, I am not sure at whom you were hinting, but I posed the question precisely in order to read your discription. I tip more when there's social justice involved. It's my way to contribute to the redistribution of wealth between the 1st and 3rd worlds. Cavaet: not sure how to know when/if all stories are true.

Out of curiosity and maybe compassion: Do most of them need it for basic living? Do they waste much of it short-sightedly? Do they support their families? Do they save for a rainy day and/or for personal development? Standard 1500-2000 baht for a ST - what can a boy buy with it? How much is rent, food, transportaion for them? Assuming a boy is offed almost once a day, 1500 x 25 = 37,500 a month Does that make him locally 'rich'?

Will stay at Tarntawan. If you confirm the address I wrote, it's a 25 minutes walk.

Thx a lot again. Won't try this cost saving; need to see and feel. Is there a reliable shows schedule, or do I need to come at 9 and wait?

So he is off my list. )-:

Is that on Suan Phlu 6 Alley? It's rather far; not within walking distance.

Thank you VERY VERY much. This is exactly what I was waiting for. You won't get any arguments from me..... (-: Would of course like to read others' opinions. I read somewhere that drinks are 350. Minamilist calculation: drink for me + for him + off = 1200 baht before any hanky-panky starts.....

(-: No need for "sorry"; to each his own...

Since the boy liked it and the mamasan didn't intefer, why be embarrassed? The whole setting is directed at promiscuity..... If I were him, getting blown and tipped by 3 men in front of all of his competitors, I would feel very proud.

No link?

Sounds reasonable, And incentivises him to do so quickly. At their age, recharge time is nil.

Thx Vinapu. These "tons of shops" is the 'problem'. I know that finding satisfying guys and services is a matter of hit-or-miss. But I'm hoping the experienced have something good or bad 2 say about facilities and hygene and honesty in certain parlours.....

This sounds omnious. Either intentionaly or in the heat of the moment I venture beyond "mild groping", and suddenly a mamasan materializes with a demand for 1500 baht? Any advance warning? rules? definitions of "mild" and "short time"? .......... (-:

I apologize in advance if my question might be construed as negative or critical. I just want to make sure I understand. These gay guides-companions-drivers are good persons and good guides who are also gay, right? The differ from 'regular' guides only by also being able to guide service for the gay scene, right? They don't offer direct *themselves) or in-direct (hook-ups) sex services, right? The fact that most of them look hot is 'only' an eye-candy bonus, right?

Between Moonlight in the north and Jupiter in the south, there are at least 10 off-bars discussed in this forum. What about massage parlours? Are Arena and Senso the only ones? No places worth noting closer to the center of action? I'm looking for: a clean place with decent showers; service to include massage + at least two way body contact and oral; open in the mornings. I'd appreciate any and all guidance: recommendations and warnings. Thanks (-:

Thx; I will. But didn't the mamasan get angry? After all, if a customer is having his way with the boy right there, he won't be paying to off him. BTW, you wrote "customers" in plural. If it wasn't a typo, it sounds like an embroy-orgy.....