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Hi Guys, Which European city would be best for a weekend of sex (clubs, rentboys, suanas) in February? Thanks

Firecat or someone else, please explain to me what is a toyboy as distinguished from a regular moneyboy/escort. And what's a houseboy. Thanks

Oz, I traveled from Sapa in the north, through Hanoi & Halong Bay, then Hue and Hoi-an, to Saigon and the Mekong Delta in the south. The least interesting are Hanoi and Saigon. The musts are Sapa, Halong and the delta.

Hi Guys, While planning the trip, I found very little online regarding sex venues. However, I was advised to publish myself on GayRomeo and GayDar as a visitor, that's what I did, and... WOW! I had no idea so many young Asians would find a 55 yo white foreigner attractive. I found myself having to turn down requests for meetings/sessions... GR turned out to be more useful than GD. During a 17 days trip I had six meetings: 2 from GD, 4 from GR; 1 in Hanoi, 1 in Hue, 4 in Saigon. [bTW, at the initial stage of searching I looked on GR for escorts and found none. Turned out that moneyboys publish themselves only in the users section. There are many ads, but they are repetitive. I found 2 in Hanoi and 4 in Saigon. None answered emails. Didn't get around to calling them.] The guys I met were between 21 and 34. None were "out" in VN, and most prefer sex only with foreigners. All were both nice and handsome; I like also the Asian type - thin and smooth. With most I had long conversations and/or dinner. Sex was at least OK, with most - a real BFE. One downside: per reputation, except for one Chinese-Malaysian all had small dicks; I mean really dwarfish. It was funny for me that my 14 cm was "huge" in their eyes. In fact everything physical I don't like about myself - too white, chest too hairy, only 14 cm, etc. - was great for them. Quite an experience. So, whoever is traveling to VN - and I recommend doing so because it's a beautiful and interesting and friendly country - there's no need to look for sex-for-pay. Just reach out and be friendly.

Hi Guys, When I asked on another forum whether to use a six hour connection in BKK airport in for a quickie, most responseswere negative and urged me to "stay put". I'm glad to report the ayes have it. Timetable (jotted it down just for you guys): touchdown - 18:25 plane at complete stop - 18:32 off the plane - 18:40 cue at immigration - 18:47 clear immigration - 19:03 in taxi - 19:13 (had to stop at an ATM) at Hero's - 19:50 in room (more of a cubicle) - 20:12 out of room - 21:15 in taxi - 21:23 back at the airport - 21:50 (two and a half hours before planned takeoff) The escapade lasted from 18:40 till 21:50, which means I invested two hours and ten minutes for an hour of pleasure. It's worth it; certainly beats "staying put" at the airport. Costs: 260 for taxi; 70 for two tolls; two way - 660 bahts. 600 for Hero; 1000 for massuer (I gave him more); 1,600. departure tax for re-entring airport (?) - 700. total: 3,000 bahts = $98. Again, worth it. And now for the "it": I'm assuming readers are familiar with Hero's layout. There were about 35 guys in the 'aquarium' and seven clients viewing them. I admit I like this part (depsite the "meat market" feeling), but this time there weren't any who really got me excited. I asked the 'mamasan' who had a big cock, and he pointed out two. Then I asked who would suck without a condom, and he pointed out two others. I pondered for a couple of minutes the cruel choices we're faced in life, but by the time I decided to go with size, those two had already been taken. The unhinibited sucker I chose turned out to be a tall masculine raw kind of a guy, unlike most Thai moneboys (also more brownish than usual). I made sure with him that there really wouldn't be a condom problem (last year I was promised such a massuer, didn't check with him beforehand, and was later rudely surprised), and off we were to the cubicle. Its ac was working bad, I asked to switch places and this was done without problem. I love the joint shower in Hero. He was soaping and carressing me, I prolonged the shower, and he started sucking right there with the warm water running all over us, as I was enjoying his just-right-not-too developed muscles. Almost against my wish we retired to the masssage bed, where he gave me an ok strong massage. Normally I like soft massages, and his wasn't even erotic-sensual, but for some reason I enjoyed the raw masculine treatment. Then he went down on me; very good oral skills. He also needed a lot of patience, since I was - unusally for me - taking a lot of time to cum. Liked him even better for not stopping even while I gushed! Really HOT. And then, of course, a farewell shower. I was more than usually satisfied, for a reason that had nothing to do either with the massuer (Pee Malik, for those who'd like to meet him) or with Hero. Only seven hours ealrlier I had my last sex session in VN, and was really curious to know whether that would be enough time for a 55 yo to replenish. Turns out it was!! Two lessons guys: One, don't "stay put" at the airport; use the connection for fun. Two, for men who usually cum too quicly, the best way to prolong the fun is to have sex seven hours earlier...

A very intriguing line - "the Fuck show is both on stage and in your lap"...You must have very strong lap muscles...

Thanks TO for the report. Do any of them speak English? Any of them L or XL, or is it true that almost all Asians are un-endowed? Any of them cut?

Hi Guys, I raised this question a year ago, got no useful info, and ended up postponing my trip due to an accident. So here goes again: I'm finding nothing on the web regarding venues for action, either in Saigon or in Hanoi. I browsed Sticky Rice, Gay Guide, Utpia, Purple Dragon, etc.; nothing there about where to get some action (free or for pay). I also tried escort ebsites (RM, RB, Escupido, GR, Gaydar, others), and came up with meager results. I'd appreciate any guidance you may offer. Thanks

Hi Guys, While in Dublin I met Renato and Henrique (commercial section at Gaydar, Gay Romeo, Dublin Male Escorts). Both were disappointments: they claim to be L/XL but are at best average; couldn't stay hard; and wouldn't suck without a condom. Renato also said that his friend Fabricio is "the same style". FYI

Hi Guys, Looking for recommendations regarding escorts or venues in Ireland - Dublin, Belfast and beyond. Thanks.

Thanks LS. I'm sure your Spanish makes a big difference, but I'll think and hopefully try out some of your tips. ATB

Hi LS, At the beggining of the thread, you wrote: "Language is only an issue if you make it one. I do not speak Portuguese. Most of the boys do not speak much, if any, English. But as long as you make the effort to communicate, they will do the same." Last year I spent five days in Rio, and very much enjoyed my time in the saunas. Like you I found the boys very friendly, but language WAS an issue. It's true that making an effort helps for a short session (I learned c. 150 words in Portugese before the trip), but how can it work for a longer duration, especially out of bed/cabin? On my repeat visit I'd like to enjoy their companionship in the city and for them to enjoy my generosity. I could really use some guidance on the communication aspect. Thanks, Roni.

Hi, From all of you who've been to the City of Lights and have enjoyed the men there, I'd appreciate recommendations regarding escorts in Paris. I'll be utilizing Gaydar, GayRomeo and Escupido, but I prefer to meet those who've left positive memories with forum members. Thanks

Hi guys, I'm at loss. I've tried all over the web, and I've found either two years old posts, or - at Utopia - next to nothing detailed about for-pay venues with real fun & play. I'd appreciate any guidance. Thanks in advance.

Thanks Phillyguy for this important report. Four follow-up questions: 1) It's more than implied that a companion can be picked for any duration and any activity. Is that so? Please elaborate on how the whole thing works. 2) Costs? 3) None of the boys on the website states explicitly that he's gay, and too many have fantasies which include females. Did I get the right impression? 4) How's their English? Thanks in advance.

I was 18 days in Brazil; I had sex 10.5 times, the .5 being the suck cinema. The most important thing about my saunas experience is the lack of any negative incidents. Reading the posts before the trip I was mentally prepared for such eventualities, but nothing of the sort materialized. I hadn't noticed any disrespectful behavior on the part of either clients or garotos; no aggressive hustlers; no dishonesty; no promises before that aren't fulfilled in the cabin; no demands for more money; nothing that ever necessitated going to the front desk; and no threatening behavior that made me think twice about what'll happen when I walk out of the sauna. There ARE the stories I posted about two garotos, who asked for more money after we had finished, but that was done in a cordial and discrete manner, and they accepted my "no" without arguments. There were also two garotos who sulked after I hadn't picked them despite some making-out, but that was the extent of 'negativity'. It could be a matter of luck, or showing good instincts in whom to chose, or the nice nature of Brazilian garotos, or a combination thereof. I prefer to believe that the lead factor is the third, plus the fact that it's a buyers' market. The sauna experience is a great and exceptional memory. A visit in a sauna is worth the entrance fee even if there's no programa. The gorgeous eye-candy, the protruding cocks, the wankings, the free and public make-outs, the no-rush atmosphere; for me, it's all new and great! Since there's quite a lot of discussion about prices, I'd like to add I believe they're more than reasonable. To drop 100 $R = 60 $ for an evening at a sauna + a programa is…almost nothing, especially compared to rates in the great US of A! All of us foreigners should be grateful such an erotic-sensual-sexual heaven exists. The only downside for me was my lack of proficiency in Portugese. Preparing for the trip I learned about 200 words, but that was enough only for short conversations that lasted 3-5 minutes. Had I been able to better converse and interact, I'd loved just to sit and talk with some of the garotos, even if I had to pay for it. I would have also stayed a full evening for my money, rather than leave after two hours max. In my trips abroad – my principal hobby – I follow my mother's rule, not to visit the same country twice before being 'everywhere' once. It's hard for me to think about coming back to Brazil just for the sex, though it's really very very tempting. However, since there are still some Latin American destinations on my to do list – Peru (apparently very not gay) being next in line – I might just make Rio-117 my connect-for-a-couple-of-days airport. I wish it could be Salvador… On this opportunity I'd like to thank all of those who helped me along, chief among them Drey from GTB (whose section on "what Berlitz won't teach you" is truly indispensible), Gingado, Ihpguy, MoreninhaBoy, and all those who patiently answered my endless questions, PM-ed me, or complimented my posts. Hope to one day cross paths with some of you. Thank you all very much.

Foz do Iguaco: • As previously posted, IMOH – simply a must. • If you do come, it's worth going the extra mile and seeing both sides: Brazilian and Argentinian. • If you can splurge and stay at a hotel inside the NP, for immediate access to the falls, the Sheraton on the Argentinian side is better and less expensive than Das Cataratas on the Brazilian side. • For taking a boat ride to get up close and personal with the falls (including a soaking shower), the Brazilian one is better and less expensive. Curitiba: •The train from Curitiba to Paranagua is proclaimed as a great ride through jungle covered peaks with sweeping views and down steep heights. The jungle and the heights are true; the view is not. 98% of the time, all that can be seen are the thick trees 40 cm from the windows. There are only very rare and short peeks at the wonderful canyons beyond them. One of my two disappointments in the trip. Rio: • The second is Christ the Redeemer. He was shrouded by clouds and fog most of the six days I spent in Rio. I ended up visiting him when his head was hardly visible, and nothing to see of the great view of the city below. Be prepared for such an eventuality. (BTW, there's a similar though less acute problem with the Sugar Loaf Mountain. I spent about three hours on the mid-way stop waiting (reading; I came prepared) for the fog to clear up. • If you go to the carnival, DO NOT buy the ticket from abroad through the internet or agencies. Find some way for a local to make the purchase. The overseas/online price is at least 3 times the local one! • Unless you intend to hit the beaches daily, there's no reason to stay at a hotel in that area. The area from Flamengo to Cinelandia is much more interesting/authentic and less expensive. • The metro is very efficient, clean and safe. Regarding safety in general, I neither experienced nor saw anything disconcerting, though I was walking alone most of the time, including at night. • Lonely Planet includes a great walking tour from Cinelandia metro through highlights north and west. I recommend taking an additional walk from the same metro, going south along the park overlooking the beach all the way to Flamengo. Of course it can be walked also in the opposite direction (north), but if you walk south you have constant view of Sugar Loaf Mountain. • Visiting the Catedral Metropolitana, spend some time viewing its reflection in the glass skyscraper on the opposite side of the avenue. Since the glass façade isn't smooth/even, the reflection changes as you move. Brasilia: • Again, as I've posted before, this place should also be a must, if only for its sheer exceptionalism. • The best place to stay is in Hotel Sector South, and within walking distance to the Fonte Luminosa (which by itself is reason enough to visit the city). Salvador: • Afriano, the nice-looking taxi driver and garoto, who offers airport rides for 60 instead of 90-100 $R: (71) 3212-2593; 8804-4706; 8793-3510. If you contact him, just for laughs mention the guy who hopped with him from check-in to a motel. I think/hope he'll remember me. • A tour guide named Anderson, whose English is the best I've heard in Brazil. I have no reason to think he's gay, and I didn't talk sex/sauna with him. Very engaging fellow. (71) 3321-3597; flextourbahia@yahoo.com.br • For buying local art, the stores up in Cidade Alta are significantly more expensive than in the Mercado Modelo five minutes with the Elevador Lacerda below. I had a great shopping experience and a bargain price at the Galeria de Art – Jorge Kanalan in the Mercado (either first or second turn on the right). • If you visit only one museum, make it the Museu Afro-Brasileiro. It looks rather shabby, until you reach the last room: person-size wooden panels depicting orixas (Afro-Brazilian deities). Make sure to take English speaking explanations from the receptionist as you enter the museum.It also help to understand the next two experiences recommended below. • Go see the internationally renown Balle Folclorico: an hour of great Brazilian dance & music, including half naked masculine dancers. • For the utmost cultural experience, attend a Candomble ceremony. It's a familial-clanish authentic nontouristic-commercial religious ceremony (you still pay the guide who takes you there and explains stuff): two-three hours of drumming and dancing and costumes and trance and fainting. Foreign guests do not participate and only watch, but you can't help getting into the spirit. Another MUST.

I stayed at a hotel called Studio do Carmo, located one minute from the Pelourinho in Cidade Alta. It's defined as a 3 stars hotel, but I'd rate it higher. Only 9 rooms, which I was surprised to find are actually two rooms suits. Great staff and service; breakfast served in-room. The problem is the price: 240 $R per night. I'm not sure whether I was paying a peak season rate, since I was there a week after the carnival. I was willing to pay the price because location is important to me; I like to stay within walking distance of the area in which I'll wander. I couldn't find online any other 3 stars hotel in the vicinity, and I wasn't ready to downgrade to 2 stars.

When I was done in Planetario during my first visit on Thursday, I asked the receptionist to call a taxi for me. Turned out there was no need to call, since there was an in-house guy who freelanced as a no-sign though accredited taxi driver (taxista). On the way he told me he works also as a garoto. Since he was nice looking, I said it was a pity he wasn’t inside as I was making my rounds. He – Afriano - liked the compliment. More importantly, I asked him how much it would cost me for him to take me to the airport on Sunday morning. He said 60 $R. That’s a great price, since my hotel offers transportation at 90 $R and the accredited office at the airport charges 99 $R! I gladly took his card, and called him on Sunday morning. I’ll include his details in a list of tips I’m planning to post. We talked on the way to the airport. Turned out I didn’t see him in Planetario the previous night because he works also in Sauna Fox, which he claims is better. One thing led to another, and I asked him how to say en Portugese “crazy” (twirling my hand beside my head). I don’t remember the word he said (it sounded clinical rather than jargon), but I told him I have a crazy question: how about a short programa on the way to the airport? He was nonplussed; said there’s a motel 5 minutes from the airport! I said I didn’t have the time for that, and I meant something really short in the car at a secluded place. He laughed; said at night he would have had no problem, but not in broad daylight. So on we drove, passing by the motel which really was close by. Since I was – as almost always – cautiously early, when we got to the airport I asked him to wait till I finish with the check-in. The stars were smiling upon me; I was the only one there. Having 50 minutes left to boarding time, I hopped back in the taxi and we drove to the motel. It ws a nice roll in the sack, nothing spectacular, and his face turned out to be the best part of his body. However, as I told Afriano: sex depois check-in con taxista – so en Brazil = sex after check-in with a taxi driver – only in Brazil!!! Can’t imagine a better way to bid farewell to the country…..and then again, perhaps a flight attendant?

Saturday night I went to bid goodbye to Brazilian saunas and garotos at Planetario, encouraged by Ihpguy’s post. BTW, I stand corrected regarding the distance; at the tourist information booth I was told that it’s ‘only’ a 15 minutes walk, as he had written in his post. Nevertheless I took a taxi, which by conincidence turned out to produce an adventure, but that’s for another post. Stay tuned. This time at 5:30 there were circa 10-12 garotos, some of whom I didn’t see during my first visit. (One of them told me that 15 is the highest number there.) For some reason these new faces were more forthcoming in soliciting clients. Not allowing anyone to dominate my time during the get-acquainted phase, I was approached by five of them. The mildest stroked me and teased my nipples; the other four offered their cocks for fondling and/or fondled mine; two of these went further: one urged me to suck him, the other went down on me! This hasn’t happened to me even in 117!! I grew to really love mutual public cock wanking in Brazil. I wanted to go with the biggest most powerful cock. Howerever, the garoto attached to it – Silles – was apparently incapable of taming his force and roughness. On the spectrum between “mild and wild” I tend to the former, so I chose the second best. Chalk another one for instinct. Vicinio was hot, effectionate and passionate. As I was nearing climax, he actually if not encouraged than at least permitted me to cum in his mouth! A fitting finale to my Brazilian tour.

I forgot to report that when I was in Rio I visited a suck cinema called Cine Rex. It’s a two minutes walk from the starting point of Lonely Planet’s walking tour of central Rio - Cinelandia metro. I shall only report my impressions, and refrain from repeating the whole setup. I cannot – indeed dare not – compete with Gingado’s post on the subject (January 11, on GTB’s forum “sex clubs and cinemas”). He waxed poetic in what is truly a literary masterpiece, turning a sleazy place into a wonderland of lust and erotic-sensual atmosphere. http://www.gaytravelbrazil.com/bboard/view_thread.cfm?postid=287&forum=74&category=34 Enternace is 10 $R! Inside there were about 30 men seating dispersed, many seats apart. A few were wanking; hardly anyone was conducting sexual intereaction. In the ‘dark room’ on the left (room? half a cabine is more likely), there was something going on. I’m not sure, but I think someone was sucking and about 5 others were either ‘watching’ (in real total darkness) and/or waiting for their turn. Since there were a lot of men going in and out of the WC on the right side, I went to check it out. Turned out that everyone was just taking a leak, and I really don’t understand why so many were doing so. I stood there for quite some time; no sexual activity at all. A hustler approached me - the only young man I saw there – and offered himself for 100 $R! Of course I said no, his phone buzzed, and that was that. There were quite a lot of men standing along the back wall and behind the last row. That’s where I saw some action. One walked up the aisle toward the back, stopped at an occupied seat adjacent to the aisle, causually unzipped, and the man in the seat started sucking. The suckee just stood there, face totally passive and bored, as if nothing at all was happening to arguably his most vital organ! I never knew anyone could seem so indifferent while being sucked!! A block of seats away, a man was leaning on the back of the last row being fucked from behind, again neither looks nor talk nor sounds of passion exchanged. Two men having sex, while ignoring each other. Since I have no experience in dark rooms, I guess that’s what happens there most of the time. Personally I couldn’t fathom having sex or taking a cock in my mouth, without previously talking with my partner-for-the-moment, indeed without even having seen his face. Specifically at that ‘cinema’, I guess that in 96% of the cases, the cock being sucked would be rather old and shriveled; not an attractive phantasy to hold in one’s imagination while working one’s mouth. But I was in Brazil also in order to have first-in-a-lifetime experiences. I sat down, lounging back and low with my legs spread, intentionally leaving a vacant seat between me and the aisle. I think it took five long minutes for someone to sit next to me. From what I could see he was young (forty-ish?) given the average age there, and unfortunately for me had the beginning of a beard. He didn’t lose much time, sent his hand in, found what he wanted, and immediately went to work. Though as always wishing to hold out as long as possible, given the circumstances it was over very quickly. I’m quite sure he was disappointed. He moved away to his next conquest, not a word exchanged. I think I had two experiences that day: first and last in a lifetime. PS – I still have a number of posts planned, but unfortunately I’m already back home to the daily grind. Those of you who appreciate my posts, please bear with me. I hope to post them all by weekend.

Today was one of my best traveling days…EVER! The old Cidade Alta of Salvador was even more than promised-expected. It’s really a pleasure to walk around, enjoying the atmosphere even more than the churches and the colorful building facades. There’s music heard from drum schools, some small bands playing and dancing in the streets, colorful artisan works displayed on pavements, fat (excuse my P-inC) ladies in colorful carolinas, and gorgeous deep brown guys. In order to get better acquainted with some of them, I headed for Sauna Planetario 11. Someone had posted that the sauna is within “walking distance from the Pelourinho” (the historical center); as always it’s a matter of definition, this time of the phrase “walking distance”. My taxi driver told me it was “cinco kilometers, mais ou menos”, and it took him 12 minutes to get there. There are apparently two or three other saunas con garotos in Salvador: Paradise, Fox and Persona. It’s unclear to me whether or not Fox and Persona are one and the same. In any case, I chose Planetario because it was recommended by two sources as the best, and because it’s the closest to the city’s center. The place is quite big, at least the public space; actually there’s quite a lot of wasted space on the lower floor. Its clean and well mantained, with two TV spaces, bar with music, separate room for shows, video room with gay porn (at long last, I’m sick and tired of straight porn in ALL previous saunas; simply sacrilege!), and even two internet stations. Enterance is 15 $R; cabines – 10; rooms – 15 (ventilators instead of AC, discomforting for someone who prespires quickly like me); suites – 20. A really nice setup. http://www.planetario11.com.br/ However, I found the main feature lacking. I arrived at about 6. Till I left at 7:30, there were 8 non-participating clients and twice the number of garotos. It has been posted and also told me by a local, that Planetario has the highest number of garotos in Salvadorian saunas. I can’t tell if 16 is the regular number or whether it was just a slow night. As mentioned above, I was hoping to meet the deep brown hunk of my dreams. Alas, it was not to be. Most of the garotos were indeed of my favorite color, but they were a bit pudgy (I wasn’t aware young brown Brazilians could be pudgy!), too muscular, or with unattractive faces. One of them had a bookish look with glasses, something that really turns me off. Very few were wanking or flashing, and those that were – didn’t have the size we’re used to seeing in 117. BTW, for my first time ever, I saw an effeminate garoto; actually I don’t know whether garoto is the correct term in this case. It wasn’t a nice sight, especially since he was more than pudgy, including in the breasts zone. Reminded me of the “bro / manssiere” episode on Sienfeld. While I was taking my time, five garotos approached me, only two initiating physical contact. I ended up in a programa with one of them, not of my favorite color. He - like some of the others - asked for 50 $R, and to my no – immediately offered 40, which is what I paid for a good programa. In order to get them down to 30, you need to bid 20, which to me sounds between insulting and ridiculous in a sauna. Am I wrong? I left just in time to get to the famous show of Balle Folclorico. It’s worth coming to Salvador only for this, I kid you not! The dances are amazing (especially the fire, gymnastics and finale), and the drummers – awsome in the true sense of the word. HOWEVER, for those of you not interested in the above, I urge you to come and see what you love most: gorgeous men! The ten deep brown male dancers shamlessly flaunt their exquisite and powerful at least half-naked bodies for an hour. If you sit at one of the front rows, this is better than a strip show. Believe me, their bodies are so great, you won’t miss the usual erotic-sensual-porn moves. Gentlemen, come to Salvador.

I’m proud to contribute something new to the collective body of knowledge accumulating in these forums, by putting Brasilia on the map. I assume there’ve been no posts on this city – including nada in responses to my planning questions - because no one has been there. Well, I highly recommend to stop ignoring this city as a tourist attraction, especially if one is already on the way north, to Salvador (as I am) or to Manaus. Brasilia is worth 24 hours. I suppose you all know it’s a modern city invented out of nothing and nowhere 50 years ago. It’s interesting to see the phenomena, and astounding to see the main ‘mall’ with innovative building designs and outdoors oversized sculptures. At the top of my list is a huge fountain – actually, a huge set of fountains in one pool – with water dancing, music and changing lights. Those with good memories might remember how I carried on about the water at Igaucu Falls… Do yourselves a favor and stop here, including a night stay to see part of the scene (including the fountain iluminada!) lit up. If you do stop here, it won’t be for the sex. There are rumors about gay life here, but if it exists - it’s not in saunas. There’s a list of them on the web: some are closed, one is mixed, and almost certainly only one offers garotos. Therma Soho is located in SCS – Sector Commercial South, a five minutes walk from SHS – Sector Hotel South. Remember, everything here is pre-planned and orderly, including division between spheres of human activity. So if you do come here and want to use the sauna, stay at SHS (as I did, by coincidence). http://www.gaygetter.com/g4/venues/thermassoho The sauna is clean and well maintened, its public space about as big as 117’s main floor. Enterance is 25 $R; cabines are free, as well they should be given they’re actually the size of a single bed + place to enter and stand beside it. There’s a bar, smoking room, sauna, no dark room (though the webpage said there was one), and one upstairs space with two videos showing straight sex. Flash: those wanking in front of them weren’t garotos but clients! Actually, I liked this bar better than the one at 117: bartender spoke English, the music’s volume wasn’t overbearing, there were gay and hetero magazines to browse, and they offered free popcorn. But this is true only regarding facilities; this bar doesn’t come near to offering the eye candies at 117, or any other sauna I’ve been to. I came in at 6:30. There were about 10 clients and 5 garotos, and it stayed thus for the hour I spent there. No great hunks, no dick flashing. Only one of them initiated contact, and reminded me twice later on. He wanted 40 $R, I said too much, and he immediately proposed 30. I later chose another guy, who repeated the same sequence. According to the time garotos disappeared into ‘cabines’ with some regulars I understood sessions are quickies of 15-20 minutes (which fits the room size and the price). That’s what I ended up doing, and the programa was ok+. That’s what Brasilia has to offer sauna-wise. Not very enticing I guess, except for the price. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’d go lower. BUT, as mentioned above, do come to see the exceptional city mall.

“Life”, it is said, “is what happens when you’ve made other plans.” Well, Sunday I turned out to be neither in MM nor with Anderson. I ended my walking tour of the oll-colonial part of the city at around 5, and walked to MM. Alas, it was closed. MM has no website; I had looked it up at one of the gay websites, which said it was open all week. I later saw on another web guide that it’s closed on Sundays. BTW, to reiterate what has already been written about the place, it’s located where you don’t want to walk out alone in the dark. There was still Anderson to look forward to, and I decided to hurry along. Why hurry? He had said he’ll come at 6, and I wanted to ambush him outside. Across the street from 117 there’s a sex motel which charges 40 $R for 4 hours, whereas at 117 the price for admission+cabine (30-40 minutes) is 55 $R. However, he he didn’t show up, neither at 6 nor later. I mention all this just to offer a tip for those of you who might want to hook up with a garoto for a longer time at a lower rate. Disappointment aside, this time no one in 117 really made me catch my breath. There were the usual solictations – kissing, cock sharing, making out; by now no need to repeat the details. Some of the garotos said business was not good because there were too many boys around. It was bingo night, with a very long stand-up prelude – a rather coarse woman joking on and on about what’s between her legs. Everything in Portugese, of course. I never have luck with lotteries, and this one ws no exception. The game ended after first a garoto and then a client striked bingo. While waiting for the bingo to begin, I had parked myself on a sofa opposite the wall and way that lead from the bar enterance to the patio enterance. A perfect place to observe all the garotos going back and forth. By the beginning of the game, I had already settled upon three prospectives. When time came, one of them had disappeared. The second, very nice and manly looking, never smiled and hardly spoke a word to anyone. I got the feeling he’s probably a great fucker, but without warmth or interaction. I chose the third, whose length of equipment I got to sample in the wanking room. Which reminds me. The door connecting the TV room to the wanking room is rather narrow. In one of my many visits there, a garoto was standing just before the door, with his long dick protruding horizontly. No one could pass without brushing against it. Garotos just ignored him+it, but clients were of course not indifferent. So there he was, like a host greeting his guests at the door, with them shaking not his hand but his cock! Talk about the importance of location for good advertisement… Back to my garoto for the evening. His name was Isaias. (This time I had him write it down; I didn’t want a repeat the case of Audre from the first night, whose accurate name I still don’t know.) We agreed that provavelmente he was hotter looking than the biblical original propheto. Isaiah is black, tall, thin, with lots of smiles and laughs. He wanted 80, I said it was too much, he asked how much I was willing to pay, I said 60, and that was it. I think he might have agreed also to 50 or even less, but I don’t believe in having sex with someone who feels too put down. The programa was very good; if Anderson got an A+, Isaias get an A-/B+. He isn’t used to a slow moving “tranquilo” (as he phrased it) client like me, but adapted himself and continuously made sure I was getting what I wanted. I climaxed accordingly, and he seemed rather pleased-proud at the result. As we were leaving the cabine, he took the note on which I had him write his name, and wrote “70 ok”. He didn’t say anything or looked at me, and when we got to my locker I did indeed give him 70; he certainly deserved the tip.

Lurke, it's very easy to get to Spazio, and BTW also to 117 which is two blocks away. Take the subway to Gloria, and exit on the side of Rua Benjamin Constant. If you're headed to Spazio, walk on Rua Gloria one block south, and turn right into Rua Santo Amaro. The Sauna is four -five doors up on your right, a brown-black rusted door with a sign above it. If you're headed to 117, walk from the metro one block north, and turn left into Rua Candido Mendes. The sauna is on the left side, with a big sign. Both saunas are no more than a five minutes walk from the metro. The whole area is very safe, with lots of people around late at night; there's no problem using the metro on your way back. Lookin and MsGuy: there was no "disappointment"; as you wrote, how could there be after my blissful adventure there? There's just disdain at how the place looks. I admit I'm at least a bit fastidious.