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2 years away..... ?!

It's a pity u didnt avail urself of massage&extra there. It's part of hotel service by hotel staff. VERY convenient. Wish more hotels would follow its example.....

And of being 30ish

When I stayed at Men's, I ventured to ask the owner. He said quite emphatically: no extras. That didnt stop the masseur from giving me one of my best massage&extra, but he warned me to be quiet about it. So it's not that your guy didnt like you; he's probably more risk-averse than mine...

Siam Roads, no?

Thank you VERY much, Raposa. That's exactly what I meant when I suggested a joint effort to summarize info&tips on various sectors. Is there any way to pin this post/thread?

Sentence before last convinced me.

Thank u, nogag!

Has anyone ever been? Is it recommended?

So, can u recommend a good abnb ?

Shower problem of hot water; breakfast is limited and boring; they dont respond to emails; And it's time for a change.

When I visit, I prefer to stay in the colonial zone. I stayed twice at the palacio, and I don't want to return. Could anyone recommend other visitors friendly hotel? And / or a good abb? Thx

Anyone knows anything about the gay action scenes in these two islands?

Thx Colmx (-:

So, in both bkk and pattaya the season is between nov and may? Or even shorter?

Does sex tourism in bkk and pattaya ebb and flow according to the monsoon/dry seasons ? What do the businesses and providers do during the low/empty season?7

Roughjock, was surprised to read about "inspection of goods". I once asked here about doing that, and was told it isn't done.....

Thank u for this explanation. Even if it's not the (only?) reason, I've learned something important about Line.

I repeat my recommendation not to engage with Department. Such engagenent serves only to legitimize this negative style which almost all of us abhorr.

Sydney, I posted a report on Arena last week.

One small correction: I didn't voice my "displeasure", only my not understanding - partially ansered by Vinapu's list.

Are Babe and #10 the same person?

Some of you were quick to PM me regarding the department's triple post. I now expand my request publicly: please disregard him, whoever he is. Any response or reference only escalates the phenomenon of personal bickering / attacks. I wish TotallyOz would adopt the following rule: whenever it's clear (as it is in this case) "who started it", he should be banned.

Oh dear; hope u didnt ruin anything... Anyway, life is full of mysteries; we'll live with another one.

Tuesday night I went to hotmail. There was a group of 7 young Koreans at the far end corner, and 5 more patrons dispersed. On stage - 14 shirtless numbered boys, in red training pants. The only one that appealed to me was #10 - vinapu's regular Mr. X whom I had seen in foodland. He waved and smiled at me, and I did so in return. Only a minute at the bar, I already decided I'd off him. An unseen cue was given; suddenly all the boys unceremoniously rushed off stage to a big box on one of the seats, each one fished his cellular and almost ran out of the bar. The whole scene shouted - "can't wait to get out of here"... The most striking thing about the show is that NOBODY smiled. It was quite mediocre....until the 4th act. On stage appeared a naked attractive guy in big white wings, slowly dancing as if he is swimming in the clouds. He had a cock-ringed erection, and seemed to be without condom. His dick was big, banana-curved upward - my favorite direction. I was mesmerized; best big cock scene I have seen. Two acts later he returned to the stage with 5 other condomed boys, just standing there. His was the only upward cock, and probably the biggest. When they went around the audience for a grab-tip, I (as always) avoided touching the rubbered. As he came near me I saw that indeed his wasn't covered, and gave him a tip for shaking hand-dick. I jokingly made a gesture of sucking, but he darted his pelvis back smiling. How pleasant was my surprise when the numbered guys returned to the stage at the interval, and he joined them with a #28 badge. Before I could make my move, the noisy 'leader' of the koreans snatched him to their table. Of course I couldn't see how many tips he showered on him, as he brazenly fondled him. 28 was cooperating smilingly, at one point standing up and exposing half his cute ass to be licked. I have seen such scenes only in that promiscious pattaya bar (nice boys?). I think that management prolonged the interval, because drinks and tips were flowing there. All that time the rest of the boys on stage were just standing there, looking enviously at the party. Anyway, after more then 15 minutes the show kind of resumed. Other patrons left one by one, including - to my surprise and relief - the korean and his group WITHOUT offing 28. By the time the show ended and the numbered guys were back on stage, I was all alone - all eyes on me. I told the papasan I want to off 28. He said "500 for off" and started to talk about the boy's fee. I cut him off politely, saying I'll talk about that directly with the boy. He called him over. Given his stardom I thought he'll quote a model's fee. I was surprised he said 2000, and of course I agreed. While I waited for him to change, I felt bad for #10 - after all our waves and smiles. I went over to him and gave him a 200 tip. For some reason some of the other boys applauded, not sure if it was for him or for me. I won't go into the details of my very satisfactory encounter with 28 (I think he said his name is Baia), except for one thing which was a first for me. When he undressed for our joint shower, I was flabbergasted to see a tiny dick. What the f--k! Was this some kind of scam? It didnt change when we played a bit in the shower. Then, when we started cuddling in bed, he said "please help me". I obliged, it started growing, he quickly put on the cock ring, and suddenly he was in full bloom - no problems for the whole session. Epilogue: The next night (my last), before going to Dream Boy, I stopped by at Hotmale for two reasons. One, I took a photo of 28 (tipping him), and asked whether he wants me to put it on the internet for others who come to BKK. He was glad with the idea, adding: "tell them I am 'man' (top), I fuck, I kiss, I can suck." [Personal observation: he sucks, doesn't like it, and it shows. In bed he is hard strong raw, with his exceptional dick - great for bottoms.] See photo below. The second reason for stopping at hotmale was to repeat my tip-note attempt (which had failed with moonlight #10) this time with hotmale #10. He was surprised at getting a tip for really nothing, but again the gesture failed. He never called. I wonder if it has to do with the number 10..... Anyway - won't try it again. PS - nothing special to report on Dream Boy, in terms of sensual acts or offing. However, I sat behind the DJ station. At some point two of the staff there starting taking photos, so I got permission to do so as well. It was Chinese NY, so maybe they put on a special extravaganza. The photos below don't really capture it. For those of you who are interested and are on whatsapp terms with me - I can send a spectecular short video (which is too heavy to upload here).