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Vinapu, that incident with you offing the boy and he went with another customer, would it be a case of double booking? He already agree to the first customer, but out of fear that customer changes his mind, he went to you but turns out the first customer kept his promise? Just a thought lol, seeing that you mentioned an offer that is your highest, only logical if he refuse because of earlier commitment rather than money?

No need for perfect english, most of us arent native english speaker anyway. As long as the content is delivered, all good

Yup, if i get his name right, the superstar in tawan. Mr thailand in on of the years, 2014 was it? But not at his best right now. Maybe by jan next year they will be more ripped for your pleasure? Lol

I actually preferred dreamboys show compared to jupiter as some of them can really dance and the lady boy shows is hilarious and quite talented performers. Jupiter boy dance move are awkward and weird but i find it still charming to see those manly guy trying hard to bust a move lol. Both bars are to my liking in terms of boy selection but dreamboys is expensive, so i tend to stay for the shows to make up for the money spent lol. Thanks for a great report! You are sure quick to move on one bar to another, something i am not good at especially of i already buy a drink lol.

Aww lol. Maybe next time? I do know he wont come in on Wednesday since he has a gig at a restaurant.

for a gay massage, that price is actually average, senso, myhero and prince charges more. There is a list of price there. I think i only pay 790 for 1.5 hr oil massage. 790 for 1 hour is the price for aromatherapy massage. Cheapest massage is only 590 1hr for oil massage. http://arenaspa-bangkok.com/price-for-massage-course-at-arena

Prime, Arena, Freshboys and Tawan, 2nd August 2017 I went to sleep again and woke up close to 10am and head down for my breakfast ritual. The only things they change is the fruits selections, which is appreciated. Back to my room and watched some tvs to kill time before heading out to prime at around 12pm. When i arrived, there is one other guy already waiting. I already have someone in mind as who my masseur will be, a board member recommended 2 guys and i wanted to at least try one of them. And as fate dictated, one of the guy already went back home, and another was taken by the guy in front of me. So back to the Ipad, and i choose one that has some meat on his arm compared to others avoiding some obvious chubby masseur as well. Another great sensual and yet strong massage given, and no hanky panky offered nor do i initiate or ask or hint since i plan to go to arena later. After massage, I walked down silom road, passed Silom plaza where arena is located, further one block than the Sri Maha Mariamman Temple to a Malaysian restaurant on my second last day here. Yup, i miss malaysian food already haha. Had some chat with the owner, and it is a Thai women and she married with a malaysian. The food is great, and as usual, i also packed my dinner as well. I walked all the way back to my hotel, to put my dinner away, and at about 5pm, head down to Arena. The manager at arena is still the same guy, he wasnt annoying but not charming either. As soon as i enter, he approached me and sit down next to me at the couch, asking which boy that i want. This time around, i asked a bit further on the charges and minimum tips to ensure i had it right and no shortchange etc, just to be clear. I look around the room to find which boys are to my liking, and i saw one with the best muscular body amongst the boy. And no, he wasnt looking at me, but it is because he had just had a customer and was at his locker storing his stuff. So again, i chose the guy who look the best instead of the smiling one. If there is two similar kind of body/look and one is smiling and one isnt, i probably go with the smiling one but my choice are pretty limited and i am being picky lol. Anyway, he went to the manager after being called, and the manager tells him something in thai, and he tells me he is top only, not a problem for me. We then proceed to a room after 2 sets of stairs going up and down, a bit confusing but he brings me to a room that is large and have 2 massage table which he puts together. He left me to go to take shower and comes back before i finished mine. He then stripped down and take shower, and the session begins. I chose 1.5hr oil massage, and the massage went superb. He really knows how to use his large hands and i feel like my whole body wrapped in his sexy arms and hands. The normal part of the massage went on for about 30-40mins, and then he proceed with the b2b part and this has got the be the best b2b massage ive had so far. it lasted quite long 30min at least before i turn, he brush is body on my back, shoulders, buttcheeks, all the way to my shins too and he uses his knee, thigh as well, but most of the time he uses his big pecs to do the b2b massages. I get a hard on almost 80% of the massage lol. Of course my hands already started roaming his big muscular body and the turning front part was natural. Not long after turning, I signal him that i want to be on top and slid my cock in between his muscular thigh and start wanking till i came. One awesome session indeed. I asked if he wanted to shower together but he decline and i respect that, so he went to shower first. After i took my shower, we chat a bit, asked a bit about his home town (Ayutthaya), and his name (Nu or Nut or Nuk) and asked if he work elsewhere other than arena, like day job or part time and he says no, he only work in arena. The first time before i went to arena, I actually contacted arena FB and asked specifically to book Nu, as he is one of the biggest muscular masseur they have according to the FB guy, but when i confirmed my time, the fb guy says he is only available at 7pm, and he recommended Panu instead, which was also great, except for the mook in his penis. Needless to say, i handed the tips directly to Nu before heading out of the room, and he escort me to the counter where i settle the rest of the bill and went back to my room for dinner and rest before heading out to soi twilight at about 9.30pm. As i am no longer a soi twilight virgin, I went up to the soi and straight away ask the touter what time the shows start. I wanted to go to at least one show before heading back to soi tawan for tawan show at 10.45pm. I asked X boys and they start the show at 10.30pm which is too late for me, so i head next door to fresh boys and their shows starts at 10pm. So i went in and have a seat of my choosing, closer to the door this time as i am planning to get out at about 10.30pm. The bar is smaller than any other bar Ive been to (Tawan, DB, Jupiter2018), a basic stage in the middle and 2-3 tier seats around the edge, and some seats in front of the stage. None of the boy are really my type, 90% are twink with some muscles but in a very small frame. There is one boy with a very defined muscle wearing cowboy hats for the show, love the body but his look is average to me. Some dance show, Sensual 2 boys shows with soap/bubbles, a lady boy shows with huge wings, lipsynching to mostly chinese songs, another bar catering to chinese tourist i guess. for the mayb 30-40 mins i am here, I have been approached my 3 boys and 4-5 mamasan, half of which sit down next to me, uninvited, asking if i want the boy or want to buy drinks. I politely refuse and says i come for the show only and they stay for a few minutes and leave me alone. The twink are cute in my opinion, so is their mamasan, just not my type but i can see the attraction. At roughly 10.30pm or so, maybe a bit later as i waited for the act to finish, I asked the mamasan the checkbin, which is just for my drink, pay up and i got some of the change in 10x10 bath coins, which i find annoying as hell but i took it and left without leaving any tips. Dont think ill be visiting this one for a while unless i see someone to my liking. Made my way to Tawan and chose my seat and wait for the show. This time around, there is a signficant improvement in terms of boy selections. I didnt see the guy i off the first day of my trip around, but there are a few more guys that is definitely offable in my book. maybe 20-30% are still keeping their muscular ripped body intact, though i also see thong, still as big as before, maybe in bulking mode as it is off season right now. Slight variation of the shows, but mostly similar than the first show i attended last year. The chubby speckie guy is still performing, There is a jerk-off show as well, but the second guy didnt manage to cum, which is a shame i guess. The first guy was much hotter anyway and he got my tip for cumming first. There is this bondage show with SnM theme using hot wax poured all over the body, and some "leather" belt for spanking, but it is clearly padded lol. All in all, great show for muscle lover. There is one guy that keep getting my attention, a bit older but great body, and at one time he went to my back and give my shoulder a massage uninvited. On any other day, I wouldve enjoy it and tip him or maybe off him but not today. I politely turned back and smile and he got the signal and move to another customer. He actually went to this other customer to my left, an old japanese by his look, but seems a bit drunk. And i saw this guy reach his underwear and then his face goes down lol. I saw mamasan behind see this and moments later, this old japanese guy were escorted out. Im pretty sure that guy is too drunk and what he did is not appreciated in gogobar. Anyway, I stay a bit after the show and then decided to went back to hotel and goes to sleep, another day without a boy in my bed. I woke up tomorrow quite early, but just stay in the room watching tv until about 9.30am and decided to go and have my breakfast. Yesterday before i went to soi twilight, I did texted DB#44 and says good luck on his gig, and he replied with thank you adn sent me picture of his guitar lol. And today after breakfast I texted him again saying my goodbye. He asked me what time i go back, i said 5pm, but need to go to airport by 2pm. He wishes me safe journey and says hope to see me again and I replied the same. Before i go, I manage to slip in another massage session at Prime, choose different masseur again from the Ipad, and another wonderful sensual massage to end my trip. Took a taxi at silom road to DMK, using meter, and he even asked permission to use expressway and i say yes. My flight was on time and i went back home, back to reality. Its Thursday and I have to go to work back on Friday lol. But on Friday morning, I received a text from DB#44 saying good morning with a sticker smiley with loves as the eyes and it made my day lol. small things but its a nice gesture indeed. From time to time, I am still in contact with DB#44, though our conversation has always been very brief. I believe because he respected my privacy and at the same time I didnt prolong the conversation anyway, just a simple "good morning" and "take care na" every other day or so, and now about once a week. More about DB#44, from the 3 times Ive off him, i grow to like him even more, but the reality is he is straight, he is hired, and he is there for the money. If i am ever in Bangkok again, no doubt ill hire him again.

We also do that from time to time, for me itll be a nuisance only when you are in bed and they still fixating at their phone screen. Although if they dont check their phone as much would be great as they will be more focus on pleasing us, i can also make some connection with what they store in their phone, like asked them to share stories about pictures they have stored there.

One more thing, it is also depends on my mood of the day. Sometimes i need my boy to be the star that i can worship, sometimes i want someone who can spoil me, sometimes i want big muscles that can crush me, and sometimes i want that cute muscly twink that can make me feel needed. So one day i might dismiss a boy but next day he might be just the guy i need. You'll never know, but that is part of the fun.

This is true, not just real life, even seeing photos people salivating in the photo forum, its clear that there is a very different view of what is beauty. It also goes to body type, skin color, overall attitude, and face too. I might consider a guy very handsome and magazine worthy but another would describe him as average only, but when it comes to the body, its easier to agree with most people, twink or hunk. It goes the other way too, someone people here says reallt cute and handsome seems very average to me. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Cant say much about police corruption in thai, i have yet had to deal with them, but we do have some corrupt police here in KL but that doesnt mean all police are corrupt. But in some area, businesses are controlled by mafia/gangsters that is directly sponsored or protected by these corrupt police. So at least in these area, no such raids will happen. And usually these corrupt police have corrupt politicians backing them. I am pretty sure that is how it works in any other country where corruption is rampant. From time to time, when it was exposed, some of these police do get caught, but usually those who get caught are black sheeps, who are low rank officers doing their high rank officers bidding.

U just answered your own question peterRS, its the rush hour that makes mrt/bts more attractive. Given the high cost of bts/mrt, they wanted to get back money spent as soon as possible i guess. On the other hand, if u hit more than 7 station, price of bts/mrt are a fraction of taxi.

No trouble at all to bring guests to dusit thani. Get the room with balcony (most main building room have them) and better if u get one at the top facing lumphini park. They dont even asked for id.

Yeah, i have a feeling that its mekhin, but i dont want to assume and be wrong later. Either way, he does stood out from the rest of the boys there, and he is shaven, clean, short hair, neatly combed, quite fashion aware with his street cloth too lol

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I always try to ignore the bad services i had in many places like restaurants, massage, and gogo bars, as long as the thing that i actually go there for, the food, the massage/masseur, and the boys are to my liking. It is such a waste if because of the waiter, u didnt get to enjoy the delicous food, because of the reception or manager, u missed out on great massage session, and because of mamasan, u missed out on the boys. What i would do if i was in your place, i would endure the mamasan, called the boy i like to sit with me, get his contact or off him, arrange subsequent meetings direct with the boy. Of course if u are there to enjoy the boy at the bar, that wont work.

Pratunam Market, Platinum Via Khlong Saen Saep Express Boat 1st Aug 2017 I woke up around 8 or so, and did search for ways to go to pratunam market and Platinum shopping complex. The location isnt eaxctly near any BTS, not without some 15-20mins walk. But I noticed that it is close to the small canal that has a Khlong Saen Saep Express Boat. This boat Service have 2 lines, and Pratunam is the main interchange pier. Went down to lobby close to 10am for breakfast and start my journey to MRT silom and alight at petchaburi station. This station also an interchange for ART to Swampy airport. All i have to do was to follow the sign that says ferry pier and took a small stairs down near the bridge to the pier. Waited for a few minutes for the boat to arrive, making sure i took the boat on the right direction towards pratunam. I had to hold on the rope to aboard to boat, and first time i stepped straight on the boat floor instead of the seats, and almost slipped, silly me thinking that it is not nice to step on the seats with your dirty slipper. It cost only 10 bath per trip to Pratunam and the conductor comes to you from the sides of the boat. Alight at Pratunam and as soon as i climbed the stairs up the bridge, i saw platinum shopping complex across the road. I checked the map for pratunam market and make my way to the location in the map, and end up inside Paladium Mall. I took a tour of this mall, inside and around before i realize the map was indeed wrong. Pratunam market is actually across the road, and it is consist of multiple alley between the old buildings. At around 11am, many of the stalls are close but a few other stalls outside are open, I make my rounds and didnt find anything interesting, and make my way to platinum mall to cool off. Went inside the mall, and it is packed with locals and foreigners alike, and i start seeing middle easterns foreigners here with their hand fulls of shopping bags. I was there probably 30mins, and the escalator isnt working and one blackout happened, which resolves after few mins. After that I make my way to MBK, using the boat, and alight at the next station, Sapan Hua Chang. I was ready to pay the conductor but couldnt reach him before i alight the boat, he was quite far and there were a lot of people aboard at pratunam at that time. Before reaching MBK, i enter one interesting building just before crossing the road to MBK, called Bangkok Art and Culture Center. Even outside the building, there are some interesting sculptures around the building. Inside, there are some mostly mordern art display, gift shops and cafe. I go up to skywalk level and went to MBK for lunch. On my way there, one of the member of a different forum Line me asking if i wanted to join him to go to Arena, which is tempting, but i already have DB #44 tonight and dont want to spoil the mood, so I asked if he wanted to go tomorrow instead. He is deadset on going today so I just give him some advise on what to expect, in terms of picking boys, and tips etc. After lunch, I also packed some dishes for dinner, and went back to hotel, and took a nap. I really like to do this with any places that warrant a night visits to some of the tourist area and gay area. went out early morning until lunch then went back to hotel, shower and take a nap, and woke up fresh for my night exploring. Did exactly that with my visit to Hong Kong last year as well. Something u usually cant do when travelling with friends and they wanted to be out all the time and back to hotel after dinner and go to sleep. So i woke up from napping at about 6 or so, had my dinner. I actually texted DB#44 this morning at breakfast to reconfirm our meeting tonight. I filled my time watching tv and shower around 8 or so, and texted my location and room number to him at about 8.30pm. Tonight, i asked him to come at 9pm, 1 hour earlier than last meeting and he is ok with that too. At exactly 9pm. I hear knocking on my door and its him right on time! And he looked delighted and fresh too. I asked him how was his day, and told him about my day a bit. More conversation about his family, his hometown, about food, he cook his own food most of the time. Made some comment on his metal bracelet, lots of thai are wearing those and he said its cheap (150 baht). After a while he asked if i already shower and i said i had and he proceeded to take shower by himself. I show him the shower cap, and get a huge smile from him! And needless to say, the session after that went on and it was even better than before. Its a mixed of familiarity as by now he knows what i like and no more awkwardness anymore. And as always, I will be the one to make the call and he always says lets cum together and this time, i came 1-2 minutes before he did, That's the first lol. After that, we went to the shower together, some indecent touching as well inside, mostly helping each other to clean up. Its only 11pm though, so he quickly browse through his phone (he has always been very brief with checking his phone the three times i off him, maximum 2-3mins only) and we cuddle a bit. Since its still early, I asked if he wanted to wacth tv, he says ok, and we watch this anime, which is dubbed in thai, but its one piece, and ive watched it before so i can understand the story a bit lol. and we went to sleep close to midnight. And again, he slept naked for my benefit, and I sure take advantage of that from time to time. At close to 4.30am, his alarm clock rang and that woke me up, he stays in bed with me for a while before got up to shower. Another chat on my day plan with him (i said i wanted to just have a massage somewhere tomorrow, which i did) and we bid farewell, gave him the tips ((slightly higher than before knowing this will be my last time seeing him for a while). He hug me and kiss on the lips. and i show him the door and get another hug and kisses and off he went.

Being subtle is really the worst thing u can do there. Be direct but polite with smiles or jokingly says what u want. And do that fake laugh afterwards. Do it the thai way haha. But if u like one of the boys, ask the mamasan to do their job which is to call the boy to sit next to you. Someone mentioned give the annoying mamasan very little tips would send the message too. In short, there is no one way to deal with any annoying situation. Sometimes one way work with one person but not with another. But if u are being direct, at least one part of the communication is clear.

So good boy, a bomb and bbb is the place to go and find hunky-muscular type in pattaya? Will put them in my list. Maybe these three places is good enough reason to give pattaya my first visit

U do know there is locker near the rail station. Not all of them has it but i am pretty sure some do. I can only recall seeing them in silom MRT.

They are going by quantity first then quality it seems. Singapore and hong kong are both small countries that have good overal citizen wealth.

On second thought, maybe the one i almost of was #25 instead of 28. He is muscular but a bit short, manly looking and a bit older look, maybe in his 30s. I cant remember exactly which is which. Another guy was tall though. When i say the room isnt clean, doesnt mean the sheets are dirty nor the floor, but the bathroom exhaust fans and the aircond filter and around the fan is collecting dusts and havent been clean for a while. Other than that, its actually still acceptable and i spent 4 nights there, without any urges to leave the hotel and book a different one. He looked a bit different than picture shared here, and of course he was wearing shirt on stage most of the time except during show, or otherwise i wouldve see his superman tattoo lol. Nevertheless, the big arms is a dead giveaway that he is tawan material.

Ive read your encounter with ton and it does seems he is only interested to take advantage of you, so many no show and you show great flexibility and compromise, one that i would not do. However, if the boy isnt interested, no initial sparks and chemistry, it is a pointless pursuit of love. It gets tricky when money is involve, and usually money involvements is more than just hard cold cash with non moneyboys.

Maybe he doesnt find the one that he is willing to compromise with yet? I know i treat the boys differently based on how much i like the boy and willing to let go their may quirks that i would normally annoyed with.

What he wants is most likely a boyfriend experience, much like what numazu had with burboy. Similarly in real life. Its really not easy to find the one. However, some gogoboy probably great at their job and know how to provide boyfriend experience if thats what you need, of course not for free.