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Recovery day, Jupiter again, 31st July 2017 Time for another update, if i didnt do it today, which is Sunday, Ill never finish this report lol plus i am working at home right now, for 6 hour until midnight, so writing this report might help pass my time hehe. I woke up quite late today, was really exhausted from yesterday day trip, moving hotel and whole atm ordeal. For this part of my trip, itll be much more laid back, act like a local for 3-4 days. At least my face does look like the local. I stay in silom, nantra silom to be exact, and my take of this hotel is mixed. Its cheap, bed and pillow is good enough for me, size wise also alright, and the breakfast, simple but enough. On the other hand, the room cleanliness is below average, but can be easily fix once i make a request at the lobby, and ask the housekeeper to come and show which parts of the room needs to be cleaned. The aircond is sufficient in term of temperature but a bit noisy and also havent been cleaned for a while. They dont replace sheets unless requested, which i did. And there is no wardrobe, just a place to hang your cloth with some hangers. I did took the cheapest Queen size bedroom though, maybe other more expensive room is better. But what makes this place great is the location, just a stone throw from prime, close to tawan and soi 4, as well as patpong night market. Will i stay here again, yes especially if i stay in bkk for more than a week like this trip. But i wouldnt make this place my first choice. i only pay average 650 thb per night, so for that value, its definitely worth the money. So after i woke up at around 9am or so, i watched some tv's, quite a good selection for a budget hotel (5-6 english channels) and head for breakfast at hotel lobby at close to 10am. The breakfast selection are two type of sliced breads, two kind of jams, butter, toasted, 2-3 kind of fruits, 2 kind of cereals, orange juices, milks and water, and of course coffee and tea. I have a few things to settle today. My clothes are all almost used up by now, since i didnt bring a lot of them to avoid having to check my luggage. So i googled for a laundry shop and see one close by at the convent road. So i packed my laundry and went ahead to that laundry shop only to find out that they can only complete my laundry by thursday, and suggested another laundry shop at soi 14, which is quite a walk from here. I went back to the hotel, and asked the lobby, and the counter guy says i can send to the hotel and get back my laundry by this evening. It costed me about 270thb for the whole thing, which is really cheap considering ill get my laundry that evening, express service that usually cost much higher. Next is to go to the thanachart bank branch in thaniya plaza and pray that they have english speaking staff so i can explain about my atm card being swallowed at on of their atm. But before that, I went a bit further to buy some pad thai for lunch, and went to the bank after. They do have english speaking staff but apparently, she explains that the card wouldve already been cut as it is the standard procedure for such case. I am relief that at least i know no one will be using the card, and i already called my bank yesterday as well. I guess i just have to get a replacement card once im home. Had lunch at hotel room, watch some more tv and decided to go to prime for a massage. The usual 2 hour oil massage with a masseur chosen from the ipad. I see the previous masseur before as well in the line up but decided to try someone else. The massage is definitely much better than the previous one, and more sensual but strictly no happy ending, but I am still happy from the great massage itself. Went back to the hotel and have a nap before waking up at about 8 for dinner and then head to Jupiter at about 9.30pm. Before that, I did try to reach some of the forum member for a meet, but as it turns out, our timing just didnt work out. I also planned to visit at least Jupiter and Tawan today after my first visit to Tawan after the show was a bit underwhelming but i still off a guy. So I went to Jupiter at Soi 4, walking pass patpong night market, and see some shirtless guys setting up stalls, definitely warming me up and get me in the mood to see some gogoboys lol. I walked into jupiter, and order a drink after choosing my seats and a corner inside the bar. Its my second visit to the bar, and since my first time there, I didnt off a boy, nor buy a boy a drink. I thought i might be treated differently, but I see no different treatment from the mamasan. They are still very politely caht with you and from time to time checking if i wanted more drink, or ask for a boy. Other than that, I am left alone to enjoy the boys parading their body . I noticed that I am bad with remembering numbers on my first visit, so i make a small notes in my phone some of the boys number that i think offable in my book. I was trying to find that #44 from my first visit, and he is nowhere to be seen. As a matter of fact, I did asked mamasan Ting, as recommended by Jasper and was told he didnt come to work today. It is Monday on a low season day, so it is understandable. My guess would be he is with customer already, who pay off fee directly to him so he wont have to come to the bar. So back to the stage for me. I see a number of guys from before as well, #4 quite a good looking guy with great body, #25, #28 muscle guy with a bit older manly look who i wouldve off last visit but he was taken right before i decided, #7 who has a boyish innocent look but still great body, and #22, cant recall his looks but i noted the number as well. I stay for a bit longer, and at about 10pm, I saw someone who fit the description mentioned here though pictures wise slightly different, but definitely his body pops out from the crowd. I looked around for a while and decided to call the mamasan, and have the boy #73 sit next to me. In a few minutes, this tawan-like muscle guy is sitting next to me, and i order him a drink and we start to talk. I asked his name and he said Meh, and i asked Mehkin? and yes smiles really big (one of the most beautiful smile ive seen, with his perfect teeth and lips) and asked if i know him before. I told him i know him from a friend, who told me he used to work in Tawan. He said he like to work in Jupiter better than tawan. I was a bit starstruck and we didnt get to talk much before he was called for boy parade and a show which starts at 10.30pm. I asked how many shows he do tonight and he said 2 only. I didnt get to discuss much about potentially offing him though, but mamasan said he will come back to sit next to me. In my mind, I had already decided to off him just out of curiousity lol. And as mentioned here, he dont do long time, so there isnt much to talk about since its on ST. Before he went up the stage, i manage to checked out his biceps and pecs, and he is definitely still in shape, though he said he used to be bigger. I guess if he wants to fit in jupiter crowd, a smaller but tighter muscle body would be better than those big body builder type that they have in tawan. And like I said, I already decided to off him, even without any discussion just for the sake of experience and about halfway of the show, mamasan ting came to me and asked if i want to off him, and explains a bit that he is top only. At first i asked if i can first have a chat with him, and the mamasan said okay. But after the show, he came to me again before mehkin sit next to me, and said he already asked mehkin and he is ok to go with me, and without further delay, i said ok and paid the off fee. Then i saw mehkin on the stage for the boy parade and after that he came back to sit with me. He did some dancing numbers, one with wearing towels and another with the strings and a ladyboy. By the way, i was impressed with the guy who did the hula hoop show, so much so that i tipped the guy 100thb. That took some real skills to do what he does. He isnt my type though and i am already with mehkin lol. As everyone probably know, this guy is a former star at tawan, and i can say he is quite popular here too. I see him greeting a few customers in jupiter and 2 of them are women. I did get a bit annoyed actually but both times i blame myself lol. First mistake of the night, Since i didnt checked out the upstairs seating last visit, I wanted to see the upstairs, and I asked mehkin to go up with me. And when i arrived there, There is this german woman who opened up a bottle for all the boys to drink as well as pack of cigarettes. And of course mehkin also invited to the free drink and he told me yesterday she also did the same, opened 2 bottle for all. I asked if he was offed by her yesterday and he said no, she always off the same guy, showed me who, not really my type but he got a huge tools lol. The second one was also kinda my fault, since mehkin was ready to leave with me but i decided that i wanted to stay for the shower show, really just to see which boy will be doing it tonight, as the shower show last time was not good and i already seat at the ground floor close to the shower area. And guess what, he was called by his previous customer, another women, look like japanese, and he stay a bit to chat and talked a bit and she went upstairs as mehkin make it to the stage for another parade. After the parade, he didnt come back to me but i see he goes straight to the upstairs seat, presumably to chat with his previous customer. Anyway, he is back with me right before the show starts, and asked to seat outside to smoke. After i saw which boys performed the shower show, none are my type, I went outside and told mehkin that we can go now and off we go. The session went on and for the most part, it was great. His body is really great, we did some body worship with baby oil, and he did know how to perform. There are a few things that doesnt click with me but its again me being nitpicking and i believe most people here probably wouldnt mind. And i cant help but comparing him with dreamboy #44. After the session ended, he asked if i wanted to shower, which i did, and he then shower after me. He saw my shaver and asked if he can use it to shave his pubes which i find really weird request and of course for hygienic reason i politely refuse. Nevertheless, the session was great, he is definitely worth the money, but chemistry with me isnt really there. He is more of a party boy and I am more of a nerd scientists. We did strike some conversation about few things, and he seems to travel quite a lot, mostly with customers i guess. And i asked what he will do after and he said he went back to jupiter until bar close, to enjoy drinking with his friends there, and there is a singing show after the show ended as mentioned before. I guess, if I had met mehkin on my first visit, before i met Dreamboy#44, It wouldve been different. Physically, I am more attracted to mehkin for obvious reason, his body is definitely more muscular and larger and he does have that star quality that i admire. And he also knows how to use those muscles having been in body building competition and a former tawan guy. But dreamboy #44 has much more in common with me, and we connected on a different level. We are much more alike in terms of personality and likes/dislikes. Another reason why I cant help but to compare with Dreamboy #44 is that before i went to Jupiter, I already set another meeting with him on Tuesday night, which is tomorrow. I actually wanted to meet him on wednesday, my last night in Bangkok, but unfortunately he was not avaiable that night, since he has his gig at a restaurant near his place. He actually says he can come to me at 12am, but seeing as he needed to leave at 5am for work, i dont want to burden him, so we agree to meet on Tuesday instead, which is a day earlier so all good. I went to sleep that night, alone but yet another fun-filled day today and a great day to look forward tomorrow.

Actually i think gogoboys are more suitable for companionship during your vacation as they usually dont have regular jobs, and even if they do, most of the time its flexible and they dont mind taking a leave of absence to be with you and of course earn more money than their regular jobs. With regular non-gogoboys, unless they find you attractive, its hard to see if they will leave their life to be with you. And if the want to be with you for the money, then there is no different than the gogo. Of course its easier to find gogo bar boys compared to those who are not and willing to be your companions

Id say the two times im in arena fits your definition of b2b. Both are memorable and they use the whole body to put pressure on mine. Not to mentioned the harden cock, both of us lol. Ive had one thai guy gives me slightly different version using his knee and thigh sliding from my body all the way to the leg, which is quite unique but this was not in bkk, but back home lol. But yeah, since b2b dont really have a school that teaches you like many other form of massage, its really up to the creativity of the masseur on their technique for b2b. Whatever style it is, a good one should give u relief on your muscles as well as gives u a hard on lol.

The two visits i had in arena, both masseurs i chose give me b2b massage. Didnt know its not a given in gay massage parlour like arena/senso prince etc

Lying by omission works just fine lol

When i say ngo, of course u need to investigate before you devote your money to one of them. My usual choices were those who always go volunteering in natural disaster area like Mercy malaysia, the few medical related ngo, like Makna (malaysia cancer ngo), PT foundation, ngo in malaysia that supports awareness of aids and safe sex among lgbt. There are many others that i believe still worth to show your support to them. And most of the ones i mentioned are recognised body by the gov, and always made their account available to the public.

That brings another choices into play, faces vs body, pecs vs abs, and dick vs booty. And more comes into play when u are in bar face to face with the boy, attitude, personality, manliness or effeminate, humble or snobish. And even some small things like the way they dress, their smells, their likes and dislikes, their brain, their backgrounds etc. When it comes to choosing the boy, all of these comes into play, one might be more important than the other, and because of these, the boy that i like, might be someone else's bad off and vice versa. And all of the above also true for what the boy view of you, and will definitely affect their performance, and how they behave when they are with you. In short, go and find out yourself, its part of the fun really!

Dont know if its new, but they asked me to bring my passport to buy new sim in july/august. Dont remember needing to do that last year.

Most app right now is just to connect two people. perhaps the whole gogobar experience might migrate to the internet, where we can see live streaming of the gogo bar shows, choose their number for private time, and able to off them and they will come to your hotel. dunno if this already exists, but it is definitely better than just browsing the many gay apps and seeing just pictures, where most of them are either fake or photoshopped

From my observation, it does seems like those who are into twink will have much better experience in pattaya rather than bangkok. Those who are into hunk/muscular beefy guy better of in bangkok. Of course both places have both type of boys, but selection wise bkk has more gogobars with hunk/muscular type, and pattaya has more twink, and as samebb here testify, hotter twinks.

Can a tourist open a bank account in thai? If its allowed, what do u need to do?

If thailand no longer have gogo, beer bars etc, sex trade will goes to apps and massage parlour. Thats is what most other countries have right now. Cruising in shopping complex and parks will also happen. Maybe that will be the case. Maybe some of the boys will go to other countries as well like malaysia? Lol

Too bad my flight to bangkok is 2.5 hour only, no jet lag to deal with. Maybe ill wait until they return to the day before pattaya clean up by the army/police.

Ive never been to pattaya, but based on what i read here, didnt think i will go there over bangkok, though I like to experience pattaya myself before crossing it off altogether.

I didnt know the license can be used in all asean country, does that means i can use my malaysian license to drive in thailand? Sweet.

Tipping is not a culture in my country, and I believe it isnt a culture in thai as well as most asian countries. Of course of u wanted to give money to the poor(not beggar), that is very much appreciated and it is usually done through many channels. There are few syndicates here who actually employ or force employ beggars and collect the income for themselves. They use religion, children, disabled person and always keep a watch of them. There are a lot of NGO that u can contribute if u really wanted to help. Or gives the beggars something to eat rather than money.

Its divinemadman right, with the excel sheet.

Its always great advice to not let your fear to intervene with you having fun. When it involves two human being (for some people three or more lol) its always more complicated than just a business transaction. There are boys who are grateful just to have a good manner customer to off him, and god knows how many of his customer treat him like a piece of meat purchased in the market. In the end, if u feel happy, and the boy is happy, thats all that matter, and money changing hands is just a formality of the multiple sharing that happens.

As long as u are close to bts, there are tonnes of options for you to choose. Depends on your budget, your taste, and what u seek. If u let us know more details, perhaps we can further recommend you. I like muscular type and have no issues with my fav place arena.

I have seen a study in national geography anout body odor, and how women reaction to them indicate their compatibility with the guy, but it has nothing to do with specific diet but rather just body odor. Like what u mentioned above, using a shirt worn for 2 days without showering do the trick. Lol i wonder if they try it for same sex study too

Especially if your boy is not gay, but gay for pay.

Probably terrible diet of high sugar can make semen taste sweet, while some healthy diet like onion, ginger, even some vegetables can makes them taste bitter. I do think its more simple than what the article is trying to make of it.

Ive always went for oil massage at prime and always gets the table with holes, but i usually went there early when there isnt much crowd. For thai massage, i had a few before not in bkk and yeah, usually on a mat or raised hard wood platform. Didnt know arena have face holes, maybe i can request that next time, if they can understand my english hehe

Yup, if u roughly know the location of your destination on the map, its easier to know which sides of the road to take the bus. Dunno about bkk, but in some cities, there are circular routes buses to add to the confusion and in some cases, u need to change buses midway to go to your destination. A buses route map is definitely a good thing to have, but an app wouldve been better. A quick google usually does the trick for famous tourists places though.

Yes prime does have holes, though it doesnt have any face pillows, which makes it a bit uncomfortable for me, but still better than a table without them like in arena. U can always asked to change position from time to time if its too uncomfortable for u.