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LeBoy is closed. The Week is like going to a nightclub at one of the many gay circuit parties held around the world. It caters to hot, well-built shirtless men in groups, and the sound and light system is set to 11. You’re not going to get even a speck of attention if you don’t fit in. Maybe — and this would be a stretch — a garoto or a local friend will be willing to escort you there with his group of equally hot friends if you agree to pick up the tab (which would be a costly night). I say this could be a stretch because most garotos have lives outside the sauna, and may not be too keen on introducing their regular group of friends to some graybeard who looks like the Orville Redenbacher popcorn guy — thus completely blowing his cover. ... but if you enjoy being a spectator, go alone and just watch the fun.

My favorite line from the comedy film “Liar, Liar”, starring Jim Carrey: Son: “My teacher tells me beauty is on the inside.” Dad: “That's just something ugly people say.”

You aren’t “symbolically” calling them saunas. They ARE called saunas in Brazil. They are referred to, in Portuguese, English, or every other language as a “sauna” or a “termas” (spa). And at either a sauna or a spa, it really is de rigeur to dress appropriately. Even if it were just considered a bathhouse or a sex club, the protocol or etiquette at those places is to drop trou and put on a towel or sexy attire. In none of these establishments is it considered appropriate to remain in your street clothes.

An ugly person in street clothes is still ugly. You really think people can’t tell what your body is shaped like if you have on a shirt and pants? And there’s still the face.

Wear a robe, or at maximum, a T-shirt and shorts. But for Christ’s sake, dress the part. It’s a sauna. Would you wear street clothes or business attire to a beach or a pool?

I heard Cliff, the loquacious mailman from “Cheers”.

So, translated into English, you believe that you need to wear street clothes in order to convey to working boys that you have money to spend. Did I interpret your comments correctly? Unless you look like Cristiano Ronaldo outside of your clothes, no one at the (appropriately-named) sauna will mistake you for a garoto.

You stated in another thread that you prefer thinks and regular common looking guys off the street and that you aren’t into muscles, athletes or fitness models. Therefore, 117, Lagoa and sometimes 202 are not the sauna for you, as muscular garotos are the theme at those places. Maybe you should try the other saunas like Manhattan Rio’s and Fragata in São Paulo that tend to offer more of what the old Meio Mundo offered, which was thinks and regular guys?

A sauna is a sauna — meaning disrobe to a towel, shorts or a bathrobe or just don’t enter. Just as it is in the non-rentboy saunas, the dress code should be the same at the ones with garotos. If you are that fucking insecure about your physical appearance compared to others, then a sauna is probably not for you. Trust me, no one is there to look at or ogle the CLIENTS. No one is thinking about you, It’s not all about you. In fact, it’s not even a little bit about you. Maybe at some of the larger ones, there could be a small restricted area where clothed clients could stay.

Centaurus in Ipanema is the most famous one. It’s also the one that Justin Bieber got busted coming out of when he was 19. https://www.thewhoremonger.com/centaurus-ipanema-rio-de-janeiro-brazil/

Not only that, but also gay men — for some reason — on average tend to be much more psychologically invested than straight men in the belief that they can attract a much better looking or much better physically built guy without having to pay for it. It might be because straight men are raised to believe that a man pays for the woman when he is interested (drinks, dinner dates, expensive engagement ring, gifts, trips, etc), whereas that dynamic for gay men as members of the same gender is only determined by who one is attracted to (or who is the more desirable or attractive). Some gay men I have encountered believe that paying for sex, dates or companionship is only for those who cannot get those things on their own, and so they won’t do it because to them, that would mean acknowledging defeat. But most straight men aren’t caught up in that dynamic, so to them, going to bordellos and paying for sex is just an easier way to meet some hot lounge lizard at a bar, pay for her drinks and dinner, and pretend not to be bored with her conversation so that he can get some new pussy.

Everyone is not a good candidate for the yellow fever vaccine, as it contains a live organism being introduced into the body. Patients with weak or compromised immune system are often advised by their physicians to forego the vaccine due to risks. If you fit into one of these categories, you should probably talk to your primary care physician before getting the vaccine: “Because certain people have an increased risk of developing a serious adverse event if vaccinated with yellow fever vaccine, vaccine is not recommended (i.e., contraindicated) for people with: Allergy to a vaccine component Age <6 months Symptomatic HIV infection or CD4+ T-lymphocytes <200/mm3 (<15% of total in children aged <6 years) Thymus disorder associated with abnormal immune function Primary immunodeficiencies Malignant neoplasms Transplantation Immunosuppressive and immunomodulatory therapies Some people may have an increased risk of an adverse event, but they may benefit from receiving the vaccine. Talk to your healthcare provider if you have any of the following: Age 6 to 8 months Age ≥60 years Asymptomatic HIV infection and CD4+ T-lymphocytes 200 to 499/mm3 (15-24% of total in children aged <6 years) Pregnancy Breastfeeding” https://www.cdc.gov/yellowfever/vaccine/index.html

If it is important to you (it probably should be), find out in advance if the apartment has a safe for small valuables. Some do, some do not. Most that I have rented did advertise a safe. Ask in advance before booking.

As mentioned in the instructional article I posted: “During any one year period you are allowed to spend 180 days inside Brazil. This can be broken up any way that you want [as long as you don’t spend more than 90 days in Brazil without an extension] — 10 days here, 20 days there, 90 days here, 60 days there. Many people stay for 90 days, request a 90 day extension then leave once their second 90 day extension runs out..”

The rule is that if you are traveling to Brazil on a tourist visa, then you are allowed to stay up to 90 days per visit to Brazil and a total of 180 days per year in the country as a tourist. You can stay 180 consecutive days in Brazil, but you’ll need to go to the Policia Federal and request an extension. The year is calculated based on the first time you enter Brazil, and not on the calendar year. This explains it simply and succinctly: http://braziliangringo.com/tourist-visa-brazil/ Helpful Heloise Hint: do NOT get too clever by half and plan a trip with exactly 90 days (or with 180 days with extension) from arrival to departure. Give yourself a few days in case of an unexpected emergency or delay. If you depart Brazil after the 90 days or 180 days maximum, you will be fined and will most likely lose your ability to renter the country.

Before booking the AirBnB, check the house rules for things that may not work for you (guests are not allowed or have to be approved in advance or registered, guests are limited in number, no overnight guests, etc.). Just to confirm the policy, even if it isn’t listed, I usually send a message before booking to the host. Something like, “I plan to have a local friend or two visit me at the apartment while I am there. My friends are male. Is that fine?” If the host response is favorable, then it’s a go. Also, it seems by the OP’s comment that he may have been renting a private room in a host-occupied apartment or house. I would think that bringing guests back to rooms would be a lot more restricted or banned than it is when renting the entire place. If anything, it would be very awkward for all parties involved.

For me personally, the issue is not the ability to land a guy that would be at Chili Pepper. That’s not a problem. I do okay in that space. It is the availability there (or lack thereof) of the particular type of guy that I am attracted to: muscular, masculine men. If I can get a free date with it, that’s great, but I’d much rather pay for what I like than deal with what I do not like just because it is free.

Suggestion: first, save the contact info in your phone’s main contacts. It will or should save to the phone before uploading to a cloud. Therefore, it will be saved regardless of Wi-Fi, cellular or internet access. Later, when you have Wi-Fi or cell service, you can check to see if the contact transferred to WhatsApp, or just copy it there.

Not surprised at all.

We definitely do not want São Paulo and Rio to go the way of New York City. I say this as a property owner and officeholder there — it is now nothing but a playground for trust fund babies. The edge and sleaze are completely gone. The nightclub scene is dead and the sex trade has been driven to the World Wide Web. A sanitized Brazil would be a boring, sexless Brazil. The sauna scene for gays and brothel scene for straights needs to be preserved. They both are part of its charm and its attraction.

Did you seriously just spell the Italian word capisce as “capish”? Did you seriously just denigrate indigenous’ people's social structure as “grass huts”? Ugh.

Please. It’s “garoto”. With an o. With an a, it refers to a girl. If you were to use the feminine version to a garoto in person after you were already corrected, it would be highly offensive and could be problematic for you. Know your audience.

You have a right to live your life the way you wish, but as someone who makes a good living doing cost-benefit analyses, I’d call becoming persona non grata at a Sauna with a revolving door of 100s of potential garotos over the loss of what amounts to $30 USD a “phyrric victory”. In the USA, $30 is two tickets to a bad movie, the price of a cheap pair of jeans at Marshall’s, or a hand car wash without detail. A simpler solution would be never to hire that guy again. There are plenty other fish in the sea.

Also, I read the topic headline and OP to a fellow traveler who isn’t a forum member. His response: ”There’s a place where you can go to find a lot of European men. It’s called Europe.”

Southern Brazil, which includes the city of Porto Alegre and its larger state of.Rio Grande do Sul is predominantly “white” — as in European-descendent and European-looking men and women. The census states that PA is 79.2% white, and the state of Rio Grande do Sul is 81% white. That should tell you all you need to know. ”According to a genetic study from 2013, Brazilians in Rio Grande do Sul have an average of 73% European, 14% African and 13% Amerindian ancestry, respectively.”