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Somebody mentioned a favourite burger place by Fragata, 2 blocks west at R dos Pinheiros 320. Meats BTW for shuttling between Fragata and Lagoa, the Über fare estimate is about R$10.

Bacio di Latte wagons, a favourite gelato outlet, a small flavour card but seasonal specialities such as gingerbread.

Motels formally listed that happen to be in or around a major Sampa gaybourhood, or may be candidates for dates sourced at various establishments ... 1 Savoy Palace Hotel, Augusta 1272 2 Luver Hotel, Frei Caneca 963 3 The Place Hotel, da Consolação 767 4 Madeira Palace Hotel, Nove de Julho 729 There are others, including Hotel Shack on R Augusta that definitely does shorter-term lets. The rainbow flag is Lagoa.

I think that forecasting a shitty trip, a week out, is not a great idea and I hope that the OP does not feel compelled to go back to the drawing board unless it is possible and convenient. I had essentially 6 full days in Bogotá. I would definitely return. I do understand that Medellín has some appealing features. Much has to do with the "luck" of scores. A guy in Chapinero pushed all the right buttons to the level of (my) obsession). But yes, Bogotá is chilly weather-wise. I followed the temperature months ahead and packed accordingly. I had a gas firepit on the terrace and was happy as a clam sitting out there with coffee. However, I walk for hours and prefer cooler weather to keep up energy and stamina. I think that I always had enough small bills to pay for drinks without depending on accurate change returned. Otherwise, I cannot comment on getting rooked. Yeah, the private dance space is one square meter and after one sample I determined was a lost cause. I forgot to mention that ATM withdrawal was exactly at formal exchange points, 0 markup compared to 15% markup at Calforex outlets in Canada. I used BBVA or some other local bank I cannot remember on Carrera 13 just north of Calle 63 (across from the open space Plaza Lourdes), but then discovered a Scotiabank right next door that allowed far greater withdrawal limit.

Ah, OK, found some listings on this site for Bela Vista and Consolação (both considered south zone) ... will list them later. TBC There are some more not listed but that exist, at least on R Augusta which is the only street I assessed due to its ‘red zone’ rep. The national association managing the directory cherry-picks those that lean towards upscale, or perhaps those that want to be affiliated with the Paulista motel sub-association. The director indicated there are hundreds in São Paulo.

The first time I went to Lagoa a sociable local took me up north to this eatery for a late night meal. I was staying in Jardins not far away. It was wildly popular and busy. Hearty fare, decadent desserts. It is open 24 hours! You can access online a ‘read’ of real time relative to average degree of busyness. Bon appetit.

I suggest opening a simple, focused collaborative thread on dining in the vicinity of where many of us will be trekking. Have at it.

The new Lagoa space, rent listed at R$18.000, is about .59PSF monthly (current USD conversion), approximate commercial space comparisons: Atlanta $1.74, Dallas 1.92, SanFran 5.43, NYC 6.16 Based on a 6-day week, an average of about 15 client entries per operating day should cover that part of the overhead, perhaps half that number predicated on one programa suite uptake per entrant. However, I expect that cost recovery for the extensive retrofitting done would take considerable time.

Apparently has now been cancelled, where it existed, starting November for the usual approximate 3.5 months. I think this means a new time difference (from Eastern) range of 1-2 hours, formerly 1-3 hours. In Rio de Janeiro in January, for example, this will mean earlier sunset, in the 18:40 range compared to 19:40 last (our) winter. It will not affect Carnival weekend daylight this year because it falls shortly after when DST customarily ended. Porto Alegre sunset, then, contemporaneously shifts from about 20:30 to 19:30 hours. Salvador has not observed DST since 2012. Sunset will remain about 18:00 hours in January. Granted, this news is irrelevant to those who dash to the moldy cummy corners of local hoo-casa suites directly following midday meal.

I belong to Bains Scandinave where I reside in historical Old Montreal. I go about every second day, and its counterpart in the Laurentian Mountains when I can get away to ski. It is not inexpensive. Properly outfitted water and temp contrast features, as well as the cultural salutary benefits, are ingrained in my lived experience. At this spa there is a frigid dipping pool following various hot exposure components, including powerful jets that have helped spare me the discomfort of borderline yet non-debilitating sciatic discomfort that commenced in my 30’s. There are also code-of-silence relaxation zones. I grew up my first 3 decades (1950s thru 70s) as a 9th generation French Canadian in the northern boreal. Like most families we were blessed with an off-grid summer lake “camp” with a natural fire hot-rock sauna with a water ladle for heat blasts and joyous repeated leaps into pristine freshwater off the adjacent dock, roughly mid-May to mid-October This tradition was, I eventually realized, at least in part, appropriated from the early 20th century Finnish diaspora in northern Ontario. My Finnish-Canadian friends tended to have sauna features at home as well as the ‘cottage’. All this, of course, makes me a spa snob with marvellous memories of idyllic early extended family life. I don’t think I am hydrophobic. Au contraire, perhaps a hydrophilic aficionado. The brothel facilities/features are like (analogously) taking a sponge bath in a drought or detention camp as compared to a decent bathe. No point whatsoever other than a functional wash. We all have our own particular backdrop that influences our take on quality and value. The thematic area in which, in contrast, I hadn’t truly lived, was obviously in the unbridled access to delicious trade. I don’t expect to have the environmental expectations match up perfectly, but please ... Just give me a drink and some pleasant company without cacophonous racket. If someone has their nose out of joint about what I am wearing, they can approach me with their idiosyncratic complaint and I might consider a change if they are going to be so irreversibly rattled by an apparent “assault” on their tunnel-vision conformism hall-monitoring. I don’t like people to suffer unnecessarily and I have fashionable sliders and thongs available anyway. I have had hundreds of great encounters in my lifetime that did not hinge on the arbitrary rituals of bathhouse dynamics. There is more than one way to skin a gato and none is necessarily a cut above any other. Everyone should just autonomously do it the way they want. Don’t get distracted by pedantic arguments about how to present yourself. Absorb the experience at your comfort level. If there were something tangible to embrace about the practical features of Brazil venues, other than the hot stud availability that transcends all, I would consider embracing it. Otherwise, I don’t have a ‘beggars can’t be choosers’ default on this.

Of course, with apologies to Dragula Carrie, but there could be some wriggle room for loud displays of whatever ...

The fly in the ointment regarding the exposure/discretion topic is that online ads “out” the provider. Heck, the ferveção site, a gossip blog, even tracks known gogos branching out into escorting (some are flagged internationally!) and uploads their ads. Wannabe providers are put in a bind. Just brainstorming here, but the business model I would like to see, or that might fly, is a “hustler bar” concept with a satellite love/sex motel. Separate components, but they might be linked in terms of proprietorship. There could be a rotation of staff among the components to help in identifying “bad apples”. There might even be two watering holes: one called Twinkles, the other Studs. Joking aside, I don’t need or typically use any spa features and bathing can occur in the motel room. I douche in privacy, prn, at home anyway before going out. The bar(s) need not be huge with expensive overhead, the problem of large spaces sitting empty the majority of time reduced. The motel need not be contiguous, but should be accessible. The motel date-space profit margins might inflate because the hours of business are not confined to the 6 hour window in current brothel establishments. Like most love hotels, there could be 24-hour booking options for punters if business is slow. The absence of complete site integration might add some flexibility to space procurement complexities. A pipe dream, I realize. But it is so much more work and time to curate programas independently. I prefer to pay to more to have the infrastructure in place and the options laid out with minimal homework required. It is really simply the streetwalker and linked facility model, but providers off the thoroughfare.

He is available. Just message him on his Facebook account.

Erm, drivers do rate you, so careful ... not too much on the nose. Perhaps just ask, in redeeming the coupon, if he doubles as Eats and what does it mean if you need someone to fill in the missing ingredient between the bun halves.

Awwww ... parroting content out of context without grasping the nuances of sarcasm ... there, there, good boy. Keep at it but keep it simple.

Yes, please do reveal what spirits we will be encountering there, Nançylasole ... stranded without your mad gumshoe skills.

I visited and took a few shots last September. Worth a visit in daylight if you are in the vicinity, ie, in transit to Lagoa 2.0, as you are likely passing a cemetery entrance. The Consolação side seemed accessed only at either the extreme east and west ends, otherwise walled. Oddly, there was minimal foot traffic on a Friday afternoon walking from Metro Republica, past Hig-Mack and thru to Paulista, but it was practical to walk north from Sé and then loop westerly to capture many notable sights. However, I do not know if this is an indicator of safety, eg, do locals prefer the underground or other vehicular transport in this section of town? I do recall the sun beating down out in the open, though the cemetery offers considerable deciduous canopy shade. The cemetery is vast but I recall seeing only 2 other visitors during my hour there. The walking distance for underground transfer at Paulista-Consolação is isconsiderably extensive, as the Yellow and Green line access points are rather far apart and and do not share station designation.

I see the site is retooled and added the app function since I researched for motels near Lions a few months ago. However, Alameda only comes up if typed into the search box. Lovetime only came up when clicking a particular coupon box. In the past, it showed in the main list. Similarly, Challon is not delineated in the main list but can be searched. Anyhow, the site is finicky. I cannot seem to access the full listings. Perhaps I will install the app later and see how that works.

Some punters cannot be disabused of their delusions about mixing with ‘ho’s’ when it’s like cats & dogs and usually cannot end well. More sensible punters can but helplessly look on from the sidelines, our warnings unheeded.

A while back, LP is in a Lucas Kazan vid as “Tiago”, XXX castings.

May the Lord open ...

By intense I mean young mixed high-energy crowd and ear-splitting subwoofer volume, fine when I was that age. Similarly, at Gigolo Erotic House, a small space with volume nearly at eardrum hemorrhage level. And you will not interact with gogos at Theatron unless a local guides you or you are extroverted and fluent in Spanish. It is not easy-peasy. Mileroticos ads are hit and miss, many fakes and scams, and I def suggest you require a three-finger selfie as well as meet in public. A good steak lunch around Lourdes will run about $15CDN apiece. The one date from there was great, unrushed about 2 hours about 175,000 (70 CDN) including ‘voluntary’ tip. You will likely get free Grindr offers. Cautionary tips? The usual, I am not going to repeat them. If you are not adept I suggest networking for your trade at Saint Moritz and the providers may also hook you up with friends. They get $60,000 for erotic massage ($25CDN!) in a shitty space because the house gets the other half. So they may have contacts to your liking if you butter them up with generous tips. Not that I tried that method. The guy I hired there was a sweet hot muscular top who did everything a top does. My sense is that they may score once per shift if lucky, and are mostly killing time, as it doubles as a regular sauna with clients on the prowl for free hook-ups in the disgusting cabins. I would not say being a foreigner is an advantage for hooking up locally, unless it is a hire, or a non/hire that is closeted and prefers non-locals to maintain image. I had a gono scare back home that turned out to be a pharyngeal virus that did not morph into a sinus cold. I had let my guard down (receptive oral). However, rates of STI among trade likely call for condomented oral. Researching drug-resistant gonorrhoea info yields conflicting data. It may not be as super-duper as feared, but I def do not want exposure. I had also worried that I may have been exposed and transmitted it to the bar staff guy I convinced to take pay-for-gay. There are some data suggesting that Listerine kills gono among folks who are infected, so that leads me to believe a thorough gargle is good practice following oral, as it may prevent the pathogen from taking hold.

A fairly good but not exhaustive resource. They do not list Alameda conveniently across from Clube 117

Camera Privé sets their fees according to your currency location, eg if 99 reais BRZ is 99 USD for Americans. The admin is non-apologetic about it. There may be a work-around solution. I have not tried because I don’t think it is ‘all that’.

Yes Chapinero, low C60s east of one of the main n/s drags, K7. Liked it. The PH price a steal for what it was. Theatron rather intense for me, an older guy in bed by midnight. I am more into the arts apart from getting laid. Personally I think adding Cartagena in that time frame would be rushed. But I do not work so I can pace. As you are in Canada(?) flights from TO are cheap and direct. AC adding direct from MTL to BOG year-round starting June. Air Transat to San Andres weekly in winter is also an option, from where one can hop to the mainland on domestic flights.