jimmie50

Some places are classified as H places where full service is offered and expected. S - Soft (Hand Job mostly) and SS - Super Soft (B2B) places have stricter rules. There is a limit to what the therapists can offer in S and SS shops, and going beyond that will incur the wrath of management. This does not mean that more is never offered at such places, but that is something to discuss in private with the therapist once the doors are closed.

Currently in Sukhothai where they are having a Candle Festival. It is happening as scheduled, but fireworks are canceled. Instead they are doing light shows with laser, drones, etc. as it is more respectful in light of the Queen Mother's passing. I suspect adjustments are being made around all of Thailand to any sort of festival or celebration out of respect.

I think it really depends on the masseur, regardless of which shop you visit. I have gone to Prestige a number of times now and even though most people indicate it is only HJ or B2B, I have gotten full service. I am currently in Thailand, and as a newbie on here, what I discovered is even though a shop may be strictly HJ or B2B, some masseurs are willing to do more. The only way to know for sure is to ask the masseur directly to determine what their limits are. When doors are closed, they are sometimes willing to break the 'house rules' of management. However, this is something you don't discuss with management, but with the therapist directly. Just my humble 2 cents opinion.

I have done a number of tours over the years with Trafalgar and really enjoyed them. All of my previous tours were in Europe. I haven't done a tour since COVID, so wasn't sure what to expect this time. You never know what adjustments or changes they made and decided to keep after COVID that could possibly create a different experience. So far, I am very pleased with the service. Accommodations have all been excellent, food has been traditional and delicious with a wide variety, and the daily excursions/activities have been fun as well as informative. I would certainly do it again.

Day 14 Sukhothai Another early morning start. Our tour director has warned us that today will be a long travel day, as it will take approximately 6 hours to reach Sukhothai. This does not include stops along the way. First stop on our journey was at a roadside stand selling sticky rice, but unlike any other I have had in Thailand before. This was sweetened with coconut milk and sugar, mixed with taro or beans, and pressed into a piece of bamboo about 12-15 inches long. They used black or purple rice, and cook the rice in the bamboo over charcoal fire for around 90 minutes. Once the sticky rice is removed from the fire, the use a pick or hatchet to split open the bamboo. Using a spoon you eat the sticky rice directly from the bamboo. Very different texture from mango sticky rice, and this is always warm as you eating it coming directly from the charcoal. It was really quite delicious. Next stop was a visit to Bhutsaya Khiri Suvarnabhumi, also known as the Rock Buddha. This is an old mining area that was no longer used and a monk convinced the government to give the land to allow a temple and seated buddha to be built. The project was started in 2014 and completed in 2019. It was quite impressive to see, as was the accompanying elevated viewing walkway. The engineering required to build the walkway was fascinating. Next stop was at Kamphaeng Phet Historical Park, which I believe is a UNESCO site. During the Sukhothai Kingdom, this city was known as Chakangrao and was an important part of the defense system for the kingdom. Next stop was lunch at a nice garden restaurant ‘off the beaten path’ so to speak, with some traditional but different dishes than we have had previously. After lunch, another two hours on the bus before arriving at our hotel in Sukhothai. A good day, but kind of travel weary. Looking forward to a good nights sleep after our group dinner. Had a nice chat with Bee online before turning in for the evening.

Day 13 Kanchanaburi It seems there is some special event for high school students taking place in Kanchanaburi sponsored by a local university. Not sure of the event purpose, but the students are from Bangkok and I am assuming they attend a private school with English being the main language. Instructors were all native English speakers. This resort is quite large, so with the exception of breakfast this morning, we haven’t seen much of them. There is a Convention Pavilion on the property which is where most of their activities are taking place. Restaurant staff seemed slightly frazzled trying to deal with 100+ teenagers plus all of their regular guests. Our out today is to Hellfire Pass. Both the museum/cemetery visit yesterday, and this trip to Hellfire Pass were very emotional. We heard the harrowing stories of how the 500-meter-long and 26-meter-deep section of rock was dug out by Prisoners of War using no more than picks, hammers and their bare hands. Exploring the Hellfire Pass Memorial Museum gave me cause for some serious reflection. My father was in the army during World War II, and was stationed in the Philippines. As I was looking at the exhibits and reading the stories, even though he was not a POW I stopped to think what if he had been captured and sent here. Conditions were just horrific. It really brought tears to my eyes. It is quite a physical trek, about 70 meters down, but there is a well-built and maintained path. Be aware it includes many sections of steep steps, however. You also should come prepared with spray for the mosquitos. They are quite abundant and very hungry. Once on the trail, there are no restrooms available, no return services, and no water…so go prepared. You need to plan for more than just one hour here…we spent probably three hours at the site before departing for lunch. The museum and pass were actually built/developed by the Australian government. They maintain the site, and even pay the salaries of workers. We drove about 20 minutes from the Museum to a local restaurant for lunch of traditional Thai dishes: minced pork w/holy basil, chicken wings, shrimp in tamarind sauce, green vegetable and soup. The shrimp dish and green vegetable are unique or special to this area of Thailand. Soup was all vegetables in some sort of a tomato based broth, but not spicy at all. After lunch we headed back to the river for a long tail boat ride enjoying the mountains and jungle scenery, ending with a taste of culture at Mon Tribal Village. Busy day, but very satisfying as well. Group had dinner together at the hotel restaurant…a very nice buffet dinner with a mix of Thai and Western (fried chicken nuggets and baked macaroni and cheese). Depart for Sukhothai in the morning. And, of course, been chatting with Bee. Actually good the tour is keeping me so busy that it is serving as a distraction from not being able to see him again this trip. ‘sigh’ Heard from Sam at Paradise again as well. Kind of given up on the idea of anything with the cute bus attendant. He is always busy helping everyone and that's his job...I get it. Once we are dropped off at the hotel, the bus, driver and attendant all disappear. The only one we ever see around the hotel is the tour director until our pick up time the next day. No idea where those two are actually eating and sleeping. Besides...keeping my focus on Bee at the moment.

Day 12 Kanchanaburi Another early morning start. Departure from Bangkok was 6:30am once again. Everyone had to request a to go breakfast box and have luggage downstairs in the lobby by 6:15am so it could be loaded onto the bus. Will be staying at Felix River Kwai Resort for the next two nights. Tour Director said travel time would be around three hours to Kanchanaburi, and I believe most everyone slept for a big portion of that time. Upon arrival we went to the Thailand-Burma Railway Center, and the War Cemetery where over 6000 prisoners of war were laid to rest. I really don’t recall much from my history lessons about the impact of WW2 in this area. Yes, I know there was a famous movie produced about the Bridge over the River Kwai, but I never watched it. Walking through the museum exhibits and reading about how terrible the conditions were for the POW’s, I was curious why more isn’t said. We are constantly reminded about the European front and how terrible the holocaust was, but you hear very little about the Asian front. This stop was a bit of an eye-opener for me, and I want to learn more once I return to Denver. After a couple of hours here, we traveled to see the infamously named Death Railway. We had a delicious traditional Thai lunch at a restaurant near the train station. After lunch we boarded a local train for a ride with gorgeous views over the river and a journey across wooden viaducts. We rode the train for approximately 45-50 minutes before getting off. Our coach was waiting to take us to see the famous bridge. Had a chance to actually walk out on the bridge. The resort is located just a short distance across the river. Had a nice group dinner together to bring our day to a close. Fortunately, no early departure tomorrow for the days activities. Heard from all three of my young men today. Think they were checking up on me. lol. Was actually surprised to hear from the first Grinder guy. Don’t want to encourage him too much since I am really not interested. Sam from Paradise was just checking in, and chatted a few times with Bee throughout the day.

I would strongly recommend to go with a knowledgeable guide who is able to provide more details. I had visited Ayutthaya once before with my Thai friends, but they really didn't know a lot about the history themselves. I enjoyed this visit much more because the guide was able to provide the missing historical pieces.

Thanks for clarifying that. I should have been more specific. Sorry for that.

Summer Palace closed during covid, and has not re-opened. Our guide, who has been doing this for 32 years, said she wasn't aware of any plans to open it again for tours. Not sure what the lingering issues may be.

Day 11 Ayutthaya Our day started with an early morning (6:30am!) coach ride to visit Ayutthaya, Thailand's historic core, now an intriguing archaeological park with palace, temple, and statue ruins. Highlights of the day were visits to Wat Maha That and Wat Lokayasutharam. We probably had about four hours exploring the ancient grounds. Our tour guide was excellent and provided a lot of interesting historical information that helped put things in better perspective for me. I had visited Ayutthaya previously with my Thai friends, but even they do not know all of the history. For them it was just a visit to some old ruins, but they could not provide any context. While I enjoyed visiting with my friends, I appreciated this experience more because of the historical information. Next, we had a cruise back to Bangkok, savoring a buffet lunch with Chao Phraya River views, local scenes, and landmarks like the Royal Grand Palace and Wat Arun. It was a full day, with plenty of walking, but well worth the repeat visit. The tour company used Grand Pearl cruise, and the food was excellent and plentiful. It is a smaller boat, so only our group was on board for the lunch and cruise back to Bangkok. I’ve done a dinner river cruise in Bangkok before that was large, packed like sardines, and the food so-so. We returned to the hotel around 5:30pm, so I sent a text to Bee right away. He is still working, but will come to the hotel when he finishes for the day so we can spend a little time together tonight before the bus leaves Bangkok in the morning. Last night in the city. Had Bee not been available, I was considering a visit this evening to FaFa, but would prefer to spend my time with Bee. Walked to a Subway just down the street from my hotel and picked up sandwiches and soda we can share together in the room. Would prefer to do that than leave, run around trying to find a place to eat, order, wait for food, etc., all of which cuts into my quality alone time with him. lol.

From what I can tell, the shops are less expensive and most options are available, but the facilities are lacking compared to Silom/Surawong and walk-ins are not as readily available at most of the shops. They prefer reservations if you want a specific young man. Also, I found it more challenging communicating with the Saphan Kwai shops in English.

That was my dilemma. I had all of these shops I wanted to visit, but once here got quickly side-tracked with other opportunities and never made it to some of the shops on my short list. Wish I hadn't booked the tour to Northern Thailand, but was no way to cancel and was already paid for. As they say, hindsight is 20/20. Next time..

Day 10 Bangkok Well, woke up to the news that the Queen Mother had passed away. Not sure what impact that will have on our itinerary for the day. This morning we are scheduled to go to the Grand Palace, but I suspect it may be closed. I believe we should be ok to visit Wat Arun and Thongburi Klongs. Was just about to hop in the shower when the power went off in the hotel. Pitch dark in the room. Was out for about 30 minutes. No clue what the problem was. Could have been an outage in the area, or just something with this building. The hotel room is larger than Ibis, but not by much, and little to no storage. You can definitely tell this is an older building. It is showing signs of wear over the years. Breakfast buffet was really very similar to Ibis. There was a mix of Asian and Western cuisines, eggs cooked to order, pastries, bread for toast, fresh fruits, cold cereals, juices and coffee. No idea about the cost of breakfast here since it is included in the tour package. Breakfast and Lunch is included every day, plus five dinners. Group is an interesting mix of people, but I find that always to be the case when I have taken other tours. Smaller group than usual, with only 22 persons total. Six from Australia…believe they are all related somehow, late 60’s or early 70’s and retired. Four retired females from Canada who do an annual trip together, again late 60’s or early 70’s. Mother/son duo from LA. Son is probably mid-30’s and mother mid-60’s. Lesbian couple from Arizona…late 40’s or early 50’s. Single female from San Diego. Four male friends from Orlando in mid-30’s who enjoy taking tours together. No hint whatsoever of ‘family’. Way too much testosterone in that group, and interest in the World Series. lol. Two other retired females, but don’t recall where they are from, and then me. Two of the Aussie’s have health issues and were struggling to keep up with the group today because there is a lot of walking involved. In addition to the Tour Director and Bus Driver, there is also a Bus Assistant to help with luggage, entry/exit on bus, pass out cold water, etc. The assistant is a handsome young man in mid-20’s I would guess and sexy as all get out. Had a difficult time taking my eyes off of him. Chose a seat on the bus strategically located next to the ice chest where he retrieves the water for everyone, always look him directly in the eye and thank him by name for everything. He always responds with the biggest smile. Not sure where the staff lodge when we are outside Bangkok, but need to investigate that a little more. lol. No surprise. Grand Palace was officially closed to observe a 100 day period of mourning and to prepare for the funeral of Queen Mother. I suspected that was going to happen, as did most of the rest of the group. We did get to see the Reclining Buddha and Emerald Buddha. The grounds and building that houses the Emerald Buddha were actually more impressive than the Buddha. I had no idea it was so small. Anyway, no real excitement to report. Had a nice lunch at a restaurant along the river not far from the Grand Palace and continued on our scheduled itinerary. Returned to the hotel around 5pm, so plenty of time to get into mischief if I decide to venture back out this evening. Some in the group opted for an additional item to visit the Jim Thompson House. Been there before, so decided against going again. Had a nice chat via LINE with Bee. Decided if I got back to the hotel tomorrow and it wasn’t too late, we will try to meet briefly one more time before the bus heads north on Monday.

I am not a long distance person, so that wouldn't work. If this ends up happening, I'll be changing my retirement plans from Colorado to Thailand. Like you, I have 'been there, done that' with a young man in Peru and another in Guatemala. Was in a long term for ten+ years with someone from Taiwan, but we lived together both in US and Taiwan. So, from that standpoint, the only way this would really work for me is if I am living in Thailand. Going to take my friends up on their condo offer and plan to return in February for at least two months, possibly three. That will allow us to spend more time together and really get to know each other better. For now, just going slow and easy.

No website. I think they have Facebook page, but no photos of boys. They also have twitter, but only photos of the shop. That will give you an idea about their facilities. Neither of those have been updated recently, though.

The guys are really handsome, and others from the forum like this shop. I believe TongTong is a favorite among the group. I imagine some of the guys are willing to break the rules if they have an interest in you as well. Don't know about that. I have just had better luck other places.

Yes, this is the Prestige. I really like the Sathorn location. Never been to their new location off Sukhumvit, so cannot speak to the facilities. I was told by therapists at Sathorn that there is no elevator at the other location, so if steps is an issue, they did not recommend it.

Well, that was never in the plans, but I am certainly open to the possibility. I was in a ten year relationship with someone from Taiwan. We lived together in the US, but also lived in Taiwan for awhile because of his job. I was able to take a sabbatical, and found it possible to teach English when we were living in Taiwan as a way to keep myself occupied and also to meet people.

Massage shops are still open everywhere, and the shops we all prefer are still sending out their daily updates via LINE. I did notice today some of the shops posted a tribute of some sort to the late Queen Mother, and some of the therapist photos they are all wearing black showing respect. Others it was simply business as usual. Not in Silom area anymore, so cannot say about the clubs there, but several of the young men in the tour group went to Soi Cowboy last night and it was business as usual. I would assume it would be the same at Fresh Boys, Hot Male, Moonlight, et al.

Day 9 Bangkok - Part 2 Whoever designed and decorated this hotel did not realize that disco died in the late 70’s or early 80’s…I feel like I am in a time warp and transported back to my college days. LOL. Much prefer Ibis Silom! Totally different clientele in this establishment. Predominantly caucasians, with mixture of American, European and Australian judging from accents/language. Very few Asian tourists here, but some Middle Eastern. I am pretty sure they must have an arrangement with different tour companies as it seems they host a lot of groups. As anyone checked in they were handed a typed letter that said the hotel would be conducting a mandatory fire fighting and evacuation drill for staff on TUESDAY, 24th October, 2025 between 16:00-17:00. Very reassuring when you realize this is October 24, but sure is not Tuesday…it’s Friday. Sitting here laughing as a type this. All of the staff was gathered outside in front of the building for the training, with members of the fire department giving instruction. That left nobody in the hotel to help any of the registered guests. Just rolling on the floor now I am laughing so hard. The hotel is similar in size to Ibis Silom with similar amenities, but much older. Very near BTS Asok and Terminal 21. Checked in with the Tour Director…older Thai lady who set up shop just off the lobby to provide assistance and information to group members. Meet and greet social the first evening is optional, she said, so I decided to skip it to give me more time with Bee. He had to be at work early the next morning so couldn’t spend the night, but we enjoyed the evening together. This trip has produced a number of unexpected and surprising developments. Didn’t think I would meet anyone via Grinder; didn’t expect Sam from Paradise would want to spend time with me outside of the shop; and didn’t expect Bee to broach the subject of boyfriend. Was not prepared for that conversation and did not see that coming at all. So, would appreciate thoughts of forum members on this. Exact words: “I want to be your boyfriend, what should I do? I’ve never had a boyfriend. I’m not sweet. I’m straightforward. I like my privacy. Would you accept me? I’d like to know your feelings.” Advice, suggestions, comments, recommendations…?!?!? Says the age difference does not bother him whatsoever. Distance is something we can figure out. Those are the two big obstacles I threw out during the conversation. In case you were wondering…he hasn’t asked for anything, has a decent job with one of the big banks, and provides some support to his parents. Most of his family, including a much younger sister, was killed in 2004 tsunami. He was just 10 years old at the time. From what I can gather it is only him and his parents who survived. I really don’t know what to make of this proposal. What, precisely, does boyfriend mean to him, especially since he says he has never had one? Will a request for assistance come later on? Hate to be skeptical, but when you have just met someone within the last week, then go from a couple rounds of great sex and companionship to let’s be boyfriends, it raises all sorts of red flags in my mind. Perhaps I am reading too much into this and should just go with the flow?

Good to know. That's hilarious.

Day 9 Bangkok - Part 1 It has been such a very long time, I had forgotten how nice it is to wake up beside someone. Had some quality snuggle time before taking a shower together, then went down to the breakfast buffet. No problems, as when I originally made the reservation for the hotel I had booked for two persons. LOL. Call it wishful thinking. In reality, from reading various posts on the forum I decided it was best to do it that way instead of raising questions if/when bringing a guest back to the room. If I had a guest and they wanted to eat breakfast, it would be covered. If not, it wasn’t something I would need to actually pay for unless they were physically present. After breakfast we headed back upstairs, said those last few parting words with strong hugs and a few minutes of deep kissing and off he went back to Paradise. He asked me to send him messages from the US and to keep in touch when I went home. Assured him I would, and told him to let me know if he changed shops, changed jobs, moved, etc. During the course of our evening together, I actually learned from him that the guys who work in the massage shops are also available to ‘off’. Not all shops, and not all boys, but some. New piece of information for me. He said he will usually get one customer per day, but some of the guys don’t get anyone. Off fee paid to the shop is similar to amount paid to the clubs. For some strange reason, Paradise is 555 Baht. Such an odd amount. lol. Next time I will dispense with all the cat and mouse game and just take him straight away to stay with me. He said he never went off with a customer before, and also never did sexual things with them like we did…only handjobs. Of course, isn’t that what they all say? Color me skeptical. Feeling somewhat melancholy…a little excited about the tour starting and getting to see different areas of Thailand, but thinking about all of the fun I have experienced in Bangkok like never before and really hate to be leaving the city. Thai friends have invited me to use their condo in Pattaya during the winter months in Colorado and I just may take them up on the offer so I can spend more time in this glorious city. Bangkok and Pattaya are not that far away from each other. Much closer than Denver and Bangkok!!! LOL Need to pack, check out of Ibis, and take taxi to Galleria 10 off Sukhumvit. Had message from Grinder guy #2…the one I really like. We will get together later in the evening after the tour ‘meet and greet’. Seeing Bee again will make leaving Sam bearable. I feel like I should put a revolving door on my hotel room…or a post a sign that says ‘take a number. Wish this would have happened to me 30 years ago!

Day 8 Bangkok Well, as the saying goes, too many men and too little time. Realized when I went down for breakfast this morning at the hotel that tomorrow is Friday and I will transfer from Ibis Silom to the tour hotel in the afternoon for the beginning of the next part of my adventure. There are still so many different massage shops I had hoped to try that are not even going to make it on the short list, which is very sad and disappointing. Now that I have also dipped my toe into the world of clubs, it has wet my appetite to check out some of the others. I am afraid these adventures to explore more will have to wait for another trip. There will be some ‘down time’ on the tour where you can opt out of certain experiences, and I may take advantage of that while still in Bangkok. Once we are on the road going to different communities, not sure what mischief I may get into, but am definitely planning to keep my options open. Already know when we reach our final destination of Chiang Mai that I want to visit Aqua CNX and Classic House. Also mentioned to Woody about possibly going to the club there, Adams Apple, if we have time. Anyway, planning to lay low this morning at the hotel and probably sleep a little more. Not sure what time Paradise young man will contact me, but expect that won’t be until later afternoon or early evening, which gives me a little time to play during the afternoon. lol. Had a lazy morning hanging out at the hotel. Was not sure if I wanted to venture out for fun or not. Had mixed feelings about whether the meeting with my Paradise guy was actually going to happen. You just never know about these things. Was hopeful that all would go according to plan, but trying to be realistic at the same time. As it turns out, there was no need to be worried or concerned. He lives about 50 minutes by motorbike outside city center. Sent me a message via LINE to let me know he was going to head my way around 2pm. Ask if he had a swimsuit and told him if he did to bring it. If not, we would go and buy one. He had one. Since he was coming for the afternoon, I decided against venturing out and getting into any more mischief. At the recommendation of @vinapu, had the lunch special of cashew chicken at my hotel. For me, it was the best of all three locations. Had no mushrooms whatsoever, plenty of white meat chicken and cashews along with red, green, and yellow peppers as well as onion. Also came with a fried egg, which was a nice touch. By the time ‘Sam’ arrived it was close to 3pm. Came up to the room, we changed into swimsuits, and went up to the rooftop to enjoy the pool and relax. Ordered a couple of appetizers to snack on as well. He said he had already had lunch, but wasn’t 100% sure he was being honest with me. Knew it would be awhile before any dinner, so couldn’t hurt to have a couple of things to snack on. He also had a beer…I stayed with my Thai tea. Was just a nice change of pace and relaxing afternoon. Eventually headed back down to the room where we proceeded to enjoy a shower together, some play time, serious cuddle time, short nap, then headed out to explore the night market and find a place to have dinner. Just a nice relaxing evening compared to what I have been putting my body through the rest of my trip. lol. Decent restaurant on Silom not far from Night Market. Had some Sea Bass soup and Wagyu grilled steak. I am not a big seafood lover, but actually enjoyed the soup more than the steak. Sam preferred the steak. He also enjoyed another bottle of Chang. He was so polite and really over-protective of me while we were out walking around. Wanted to make sure I was ok and having a good time. I was enjoying the attention and the affection. Headed back to the hotel for some more playtime before falling asleep with my arms wrapped tightly around him. Magical, blissful evening for me…hopefully for him as well.

Day 7 Bangkok - Part 2 OK, I cannot believe I am going to admit this, but I have become such a slut on this trip. I am acting like the kid in a candy store for the very first time. I’m exhausted, but this drive or rush inside keeps moving me forward. Saw my Paradise guy and it was just as great this time, only we dispensed with the scrub and also no need to waste time or play the coy games. Both of us naked from the get go, showered together before and after, and a lot more play than massage. Was joking with him at the end of our time together while still in the massage room and casually…and really was joking when I said it…told him ‘I could take you home with me right now!’. His reply caught me off guard. He said ‘not today, working; tomorrow ok, not working’. So I had to ask if he was serious, and had ever gone with a client before and he said yes, serious, and never with client. First of all, they aren’t allowed by management if they are working. What they do on their off day is their own personal business, though. While I take most things like this with a grain of salt…he may say something similar to all of his clients…I would like to believe he was being genuine. I felt there was a connection between us, and he was surprised I sent him a text and arranged a second meeting, as I had promised. Evidently others have said similar things but never followed through. Anyway, he will text me tomorrow and we will make whatever arrangements regarding where and when to meet. After that it was off to Foodland and another sampling of cashew chicken. I prefer Foodland version over Derby King. While Foodland version did contain some mushrooms, it was only a minimal amount and not that tube-like mushroom at DK. DK was also slightly more expensive. I got an appetizer at Foodland in addition to the chicken and a Thai Tea (same at both locations), and the bill was still less than DK. By this time it is around 9pm. Walked down to Hotmale to check out show time. Show was to begin at 10:30pm, but I decided to go ahead in now and just wait. I could relax in the AC and enjoy a drink while waiting. I knew if I walked back to the hotel I would most likely stay in the rest of the evening. Walked in Hotmale and I was literally the only customer. Nobody else in sight other than people who work there, and number boys on stage just like at Moonlight. Was rather depressing and really uncomfortable. Probably 15-20 boys rotating on and off stage in groups looking at me desperately with pleading eyes to rescue them from the misery. So strange to make the young men parade on stage when no customers are present. I really don’t get this. Also, being the only customer, I had the complete attention of Mamasan. There was no escaping it. It was so bad I was trying to avoid eye contact with any of the guys on stage. Finally, after 30 minutes of Mamasan hovering I selected one young man to come and sit with me and bought him a drink. This was just to shut up Mamasan and get her to go away. OMG. During this time, two potential customers walked in, looked around, and walked right back out. Also, I had specifically asked Mamsan if all of the boys where Thai and to indicate which ones could speak some English. She confirmed all Thai, all speak English. I knew this was BS, but was no point in arguing with her. Anyway, the young man I selected did have some limited English skills. He was 27 from Cambodia. His older brother also works there and was on stage at the same time. All the guys here are what I would call twinks. Didn’t see anyone you could call muscular or manly. Anyway, had a nice conversation with the young man and decided on a whim to go ahead and off him. Didn’t think I would ever do that, but might be my last opportunity, so why not. lol. Paid the club fee of 500 Baht, plus a much pressured tip for Mamasan of 100 Baht and was told the fee for the young man was 2000 Baht to be given directly to him. I believe the actual amount paid to guys is negotiated between the parties…not based upon what Mamasan said. In any event, I specifically asked him if he had to share any of the money I give him at the hotel with the club and he said no, he keeps all of it. So, off he went to get dressed and shortly after we were out the door. By this time it was 22:00 and not a single customer in the club. Assuming unless a last minute rush the show may get canceled for the evening?!? Not sure how that works. Only did short term with the young man, especially since I will have overnight company tomorrow with my Paradise guy. Like I said at the beginning of this paragraph…I have become such a slut!!!