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You mean in Vietnam godfathers sleep with their godsons? Very interesting. And here I thought the weirdest thing about the Vietnamese was that some of them ate cats. It's true what my friends say: I'm far too innocent. 😇

Uh-huh, another Private (First Class). This forum seems to be a magnet for them. 🤦🤷

Your feelings are valid and all too human. Another thing is, if he does stop working in the bar for good, would you be able to accept his past as a sex worker and not use it against him everytime you had a quarrel? What if you and him run into an old customer of his? He might even have slept with members of this forum who have become your friends. How will you cope? Do you expect him to severe all ties with his past? Can you reasonably expect him to?

Batman was doing Robin? Why am I not surprised. 😒🤷 They do? 😮 Are you also a Private (First Class)? 🤔

Not sure I understand this. If you'd like him to stop work for three months, then ask him to apply for a long leave from the bar with proper notice. Bar staff go on long leave all the time to go home, get married, celebrate the birth of a child, attend to sick parents, sort out affairs at home, etc. It won't be an unusual request. You're still fresh from the trip and missing him. Is this your first Thai crush? I had a crush too from my very first "gay Thailand" trip more than twenty years ago and thought I had met the love of my life. He was from Khon Kaen, gay, very handsome and looked Japanese. Mobile phones were still fairly new in those days and we would text each other frequently in the beginning. No video calls then. As time went by, the text messages on both sides dwindled as we became preoccupied with our respective lives. I guess we also ran out of things to talk about and due to the distance between us, no sex to compensate for the vast differences in interests, education and social background. I was also set on building my career, having left university only a couple of years earlier. Your situation is different in that you're retired and presumably have a lot of free time and money in your hands. Moreover going back to dreary Denver and it's disagreeable weather (is it still cold now or are you in spring?) and a culture far less stimulating than the fleshpots of Bangkok (reverse culture shock?) would probably compound your feelings of missing him. It all adds up. So where do we go from here? Well, I'm not one to tell people how to live their lives but keeping busy is one way to keep your mind off him and your fantastic holiday in Bangkok. Reframing your thoughts and realising that your seven-week sex adventure in Bangkok is just that and not the norm might help to put things in perspective. It may not seem like it now but you will feel better with time.

There's a thread about it in this sub-forum.

They aren't open yet. 🙄 Are you worried it's someone who's thrown you out of their establishment before? 😏😆🤣😂😅

Schatzi's is still undergoing renovations and will probably open soon. Photo courtesy of @bkkmfj2648.

According to our intrepid reporter @bkkmfj2648, The Bar in a Box and My Favorite Diner are two adjoining venues. They are listed as My Favorite Diner in the latest update of the Supertown map. Many thanks to @BjornAgain and @bkkmfj2648 for their updates.

Does the farang know about his boyfriend's family? In my experience most of them do and the older they are, the more forgiving or at least tolerant they are of these unique arrangements. I mean what's the alternative for them? And to be fair it's not only the straight Thai men who have local partners on the side; the gay guys do too. This is why regardless of sexual orientation, the local guys LOVE long distance relationships where the farang only visits a few times a year and just sends money every month. That way it's easier for them to juggle multiple sugar daddies AND have a Thai boyfriend or girlfriend on the side. I just brought up straight guys because more often than not, they are the ones who build or buy homes back in the village when they are going to get married. But of course, women and gay guys build houses back home too. It's a symbol to show the parents and neighbours that they have made it in the city. One fine example is Puy the Roti Lady, who I mentioned in the banana roti post. She's done very well for herself through her hard work and her house in Isaan is now ready.

I can't say I didn't expect this. I'm not one to offer relationship advice as in my experience people would do what they want anyway and some lessons, whether good or bad, need to be learned by the parties themselves. So I will just wish you good luck and a safe trip home. Just a note of caution. If the world and Thai economies get any worse, the Thai authorities (and the Thai people) will become even more protective and inward looking, and they will step up on the crackdown and deportation of illegal economic migrants. I hear Jomtien Complex is already seeing the effects of this. Thus you may have to make some adjustments to your plans athough there should be nothing to stop you from seeing Cam in Cambodia. Out of curiosity is Cam gay or straight? I ask because in my long experience with rural Southeast Asia as a gentleman farmer myself, when straight guys want to build or re-build their homes in the village, it's because they wish to settle down, assuming that they aren't already married or attached on some level.

How come housekeeping didn't notice anything earlier? Were they renting the room by the month? This reminds me of the deaths of Mr and Mrs Gene Hackman although that wasn't suicide I think. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2026/03/31/two-americans-found-dead-in-pattaya-hotel-room/

The price is reasonable for a restaurant in that location and the quality of food and level of service as you described. What were some of the dishes and ingredients that you "had never experienced anywhere else"?

Not necessarily. Often times silence is a reply and an end unto itself.

And we're very happy for you. If I remember correctly you're flying back to the States on April the 2nd. If I don't get to chat with you before then, have a safe trip home. Seven weeks have passed very quickly.✌️🫶

Does this mean the US Treasury is finally issuing three-dollar bills, with James Buchanan on the front? I've been looking forever for it. You know the old expression, as queer as a three-dollar bill? Maybe now we can stop looking for it. 🤷

What??? He only wai-ed you and didn't prostrate on all fours before you? Now that's just rude. 😠

Not only Yupin's but there's also Buenos and Poseidon's Wine Cellar on the rainbow walk. I believe The Venue serves food too. On the other side there's Dick's Cafe and the soon-to-open Schatze. Running a restaurant is hard work for anyone, regardless of nationality, and it's not just about being cordial to patrons. There are many behind-the-scenes goings-on which we do not see, notably the management of staff. In most cases the owner has to be on premise to ensure quality and that everything is going smoothly. My sister has two very successful restaurants here but she is very hands on and has her eye on everything, meaning she has little time for anything else other than her family. That said, I'm inclined to agree that serving prissy, entitled queens and queen bees of a certain generation must be exhausting; having been ignored at home, they start to put on airs in places like Pattaya and threaten to flounce at the slightest perceived slight. They would also have no qualms bad mouthing the establishment. Personally, I couldn't care less whether the owner of a restaurant comes to say hello to me or not as I don't measure my self worth from such things. What's important to me is the taste and quality of the food, the service and the price. I would be insulted though if the restaurant had a cat and it didn't come say hi and invariably they all have since I was a kid. Is it any wonder why I have 29 cats? 😸😅😻😽

Yes, the site in Pratamnak Soi 6 is currently undergoing renovations. It looks spacious in a garden-type setting and I've attached a few pics that @bkkmfj2648 took. I don't know why he picked that location but I can hazard a few guesses why he didn't choose Jomtien Complex. Unlike Silom Soi 4 which has become sort of an international, permanent Mardi Gras-like street attracting gays and straights and everything else in between of all ages, Jomtien Complex is still very much a niche market of elderly white men with twinks that may appear underage to the unknowing and scare off potential customers. G's is located near the entrance of Silom Soi 4 but that sweet spot is already occupied by the well-established Poseidon Hotel and Restaurant in Jomtien Complex which means any foot traffic would have to walk past the twinky bars and their admirers to G's. Moreover, the presence of illegal workers in the area would invite police raids which could further deter customers. I'm aware that there are F&B outlets in the complex that have had some success but G's has built their reputation elsewhere and they probably wouldn't want to alienate any part of their extensive customer base and thus decided on a neutral, "clean" site. Pattaya has many middle class expat families who would probably patronise a restaurant like G's, as would families on holiday, and I have a feeling the concept of the restaurant in Pratamnak would be a little different than the one in Silom Soi 4. For example, they may even have a little play area for kids or a stage for G-rated (pun intended) performances. My only wish is that he would adopt a few more strays and let them roam the grounds. 😻😸😽

Can't help it! It's Monday morning and I've got a big smile on my face. 😊

I could live anywhere and still make myself useful and make everyday count. While my surroundings may have some impact as to what I can or cannot do, I wouldn't let it dictate how I live my life. Right now, in addition to my regular work, I also do animal rescue, fruit and vegetable farming and volunteer with marginalised communities in various capacities. I sleep well at night because I go to bed having had a full day. I agree that a life of propping up bar stools would get tired very quickly and bitterness and cynicism will set in. When I worked in Bangkok for a year in the early 2010s do you know how many times I went to Patpong, which was very close to my offices, at night? Four times and this was always because friends visiting wanted to go.

Become a monk for a few months?

...or every minute...🙄

Why not get a unit on the same side as Jomtien Complex then such as in View Talay 5 or View Talay 7 and use the designated pedestrian crossings to get to the other side? I stayed in a studio unit at View Talay 5 a few years ago and liked it very much. It was on the eighth floor, had a lovely sea view and a nice breeze blowing in.

@Keithambrose has taken a vow of silence. He tried for chastity but the nuns simply laughed him off. 😅