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G's Pattaya outlet isn't open yet and is in Pratamnak, I believe, not Jomtien Complex. The pic you took could be of the new restaurant that @BjornAgainmentioned was going to open on April 1st.

Cleopatra's obelisks.😏

@jimmie50 I see you haven't checked in in two days and hope that it's because you have been busy having a good time and not because you've been ill. Please take care and drop us a line when you can if only to let us know that you're alright.✌️🫶

You certainly have plenty to say about my experiences with my Thai friends, contemporaries and the nightlife workers I've met, interacted with and helped over the years and you've never met or shook hands with me either. This may surprise you but the vast majority of Thais do not live and breathe Patpong and Foodland.

Yes, certainly very helpful when interacting with human beings in the most intimate of circumstances. Who needs empathy or basic human decency. ...yup, it's all about the maths... 75%, 85%, 95%... but EQ = 0% Sure, it's all about you, isn't it, as you have the upper hand in the negotiations. I, I, I, ME, ME, ME. By all means, deprive the young man of an additional 100-200 Baht transportation fee, someone whom you liked and had had a good time with otherwise you wouldn't have asked to see him again. You speak of what's reasonable to you but is what's reasonable to you fair to him? That request for transportation costs could have been a subtle hint or euphemism for a slight increase in tip, which isn't unusual at all. What is unusual is being so thick-skinned and putting your own self at risk by going to the boy's place just to save a hundred Baht. Incidentally, sparing the boy a hundred Baht or two isn't being "posh" (do you even know what that word means?); it's called being decent and most customers with human feelings would have given it without being asked. Thai customers would have even grabbed a few beers and bought some food from across the street to be enjoyed together. They say you live in Thailand and speak the language but it seems to me that Thailand and the Thai people, with their gamut of emotions, kindness, silliness, canniness, humour and subtleties haven't rubbed on you at all. It hasn't changed you, which says a lot about you and your personality.

Because you like them circumcised? 🤔

I was responding to @Olddaddy's post who I believe was referencing @bkkmfj2648. I've edited my earlier post to make it clearer. Buy @Olddaddy's ass? He couldn't give it away. Even the Salvation Army said no thanks!

Please delete.

@bkkmfj2648 is. Humble and doesn't feel the need to have the last word everytime or talk himself up even though he seems to have done well for himself and travelled the world. By the way, the former Sun Bar shop-lot is now available for rent. Here's your golden opportunity to open a bar, @Olddaddy. Don't wait; put your money where your arse is NOW! Photo credit belongs to @bkkmfj2648.

I just received a PM from @bkkmfj2648that the P&P site has been taken over by Sun Bar. It's a shame that @bkkmfj2648has stopped posting on this forum as he is a venerable repository of current information on Pattaya and many other places in Southeast Asia. His thread on retiring in Vietnam was informative and fun to read. I hope he will post on the forums again. Sun Bar has already put up their shop sign at the former P&P site. Photo credit belongs to @bkkmfj2648.

It's okay; many of these sex workers have more honour and pride in their work than the skanky customers who try to squeeze every last Baht out of them.

I personally don't care what @ChristianPFC pays for the kind of guys he gets at the kind of places he frequents if it's a case of a willing buyer and a willing seller. But if he tries to wrangle too much of a bargain and take advantage of a poor man's desperate circumstances as he is wont to do, I wouldn't be surprised if one day he's going to end up on the front pages of The Thaiger as another farang casualty in Thailand and that day wouldn't have come too soon. What I do take issue with is his unhelpful comparisons and baseless analyses. Venues and working boys/girls aren't created equal and one simply can't compare the guys at the higher end establishments and the street hustlers he meets and squeezes and say that customers are paying too much for the former. The greed and cruelty aside, it's simply misleading and misrepresentative to newbies reading this forum. He should confine his remarks to the shitholes he visits and is accustomed to "all over Thailand".

The feedback I receive from my two decades of volunteering to promote safer sex among and provide mental health support to sex workers and vulnerable populations in Malaysia and Thailand is that sex workers don't generally charge on the basis of a customer's age, looks and/or language ability. If they did, most of the elderly farang would have been priced out of the market following the Asian "invasion" of the last ten years or so. They say looks, age and/or fluency in Thai don't necessarily compensate for a serious personality flaw. They would be happier with an easygoing, easy-to-please, jolly sixty-year-old and be done in forty-five minutes than with a prickly and fussy forty-year-old cheapskate bum who counts every baht and every minute.

To whom? Mother Teresa's Charity?

Initially I read it as you did but I think what he meant was he was looking for options that we gays could explore. 😅 @boyjt Welcome to the forum. Take sometime to browse through the forum and you'll find the answers that you're looking for.

It's been replaced by P&P hasn't it?

No wonder the bar has thrived! 😏

No, it doesn't. I don't know how you came up with this comparison. Have you ever worked in your life; do you understand the concept of income and wages at all? I find your remarks offensive and insulting to both sex workers and their customers. From your comments here and in the past I find nothing "First World" about you at all. And what is this "order" you speak of? In Thailand, which is a developing country, Thai customers pay the same as foreigners, other factors remaining equal (for eg the venue, type of service, looks of sex worker, etc) as do customers from other developing countries. The customer's country of origin has got nothing to do with it. And at the high-end venues where the customers are almost exclusively Thai and a smattering of other Asians, they pay considerably more. You just don't know about them because they're out of your league. Boo-hoo, what a pity. I hear the go go bars in Bangkok miss your custom desperately and are begging for you to come back. 🙄 Implicit in your comments is that all bars and sex workers are created equal. They aren't. Comparing risky street trade to, say, the guys at Moonlight or The Residences is like saying a skanky, slum-shoebox-dwelling German is equivalent to a grand British dame living it up in a Le Meridien suite. Quelle horreur!

@jimmie50 Prioritise your health and make sure you're fit and healthy before boarding that long flight home. But, of course, enjoy your final few days in Bangkok with Cam and it's okay if you can't meet the others. There's always the next visit! Quality over quantity! By the way, "What are you doing?", "Have you eaten or not?", "Where have you been?" and "Where are you going?" are very common Thai greetings. You don't have to provide specifics in response; a cursory reply would suffice, followed by whatever it is you'd really like to talk about. My favourite is "I haven't seen you for a long time!" and I'd tease them with a detailed reply of the number of times we'd seen one another recently. It tends to stump them initially, followed by a big laugh. 😆

Then get a one-bedroom. Just make sure it's on a high floor and has a balcony big enough for you to install a trampoline...you know for those boring rainy days when you're stuck at home...

Sorry to hear you've been unwell. Did you forget your Morning After pill again? You must remember to take it within 72 hours of your last...you know. 😉 Give your body a bit of rest and get well soon. 💪🫶

I've asked this question on this forum before but didn't receive an answer: what's preventing the guys from getting legal? I know many young men and women from neighbouring countries who are working legally in Thailand (visa and work permit) in the services, entertainment and construction industries.

Ooh, thanks for the clarification. Not one of my favourites. Actually none of them are although I've found Hotmale, Moonlight, Circus and Banana Bars to be a bit more fun than the others. Aren't Midnight and Dragon (the one with tabletop dancing) on street level?

Isn't Dreamboys at street level/on the ground floor? Might you be thinking of Big Pussy White Boys (they keep changing the name 🤷)?

What do you mean by "ghost properties"? Does it have anything to do with Pattaya being described as the Land of the Living Dead? 🤔 There is a Thai documentary made about it.