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I stayed at a gay hotel - Arthur & Paul. A really boutique hotel with only 5 rooms.
It's not "gay friendly"; it's gay: rooms have names of masculine pairs; decorative nudes; an immaculate gay sauna, including jaccuzzi and private cubicles; and 6 handsome youngsters doubling as staff and massuers.
Indeed, the bellboy who led me to my room offered himself almost explicitly (too efiminate for my taste). I hadn't settled down yet, and a grindr msg appeared from another hotel massuer. 
He offered himself, explaining massage costs $20 (to hotel), and if there is any sexual activity - additional 20 to him. He also answered that he doesnt suck (my favorite HE).
Later, to be on the safe side, I discreetly inquired at the reception and was given the same info, and that sucking is "up to boy".
Went to tour the sauna and sit in the jaccuzzi. There were about 12 young local eye-candies. Never witnessed such a reserved sauna atmosphere: absolutely zero interaction btw them - no smile, no wink, no word, no hint, no touch. They just kept walking around, no action at all. They also wore bathing shorts beneath their towels. I was later told locals never approach each other. So why go to a sauna... ? Same scene the next night.
Not being a local, I striked up a limited dialogue with a guy in the jaccuzzi. Soon we were groping each other, and then moved to grope more freely in a cubicle; me being the proactive one. He was really terrified of onlookers.
By 23:00, when I opted for a massage, only 2 of the 6 were left. I chose the not-efiminate one. The massage room (like all hotel and sauna facilities) was excellant. So was the massage, both the therapeutic and the sensual. We hardly spoke. He took it for granted I was interested in a HE, and proceeded to give me a great swallowing BJ. Maybe he had heard something from the receptionist. I tipped him 30 instead of the 20.
I got a preview of Vinapu's report, in which he mentions two saunas with same payment structure. I figured "why try them out when I have inhouse service....."
Also, received a fair amount of non-pay apps solicitations, mainly thru grindr.
In all, during my 3n/3d here, had two apps appointments and 2 massages.
On Bkkmfj's recommendation, the second massage was a 4-hands (first time for me). Great sensation, and I loved the way they fit their dicks (one rather flacid, the other rocket-like) into my palms on both sides.
There's no in-room phone, but I guess one can reserve in advance a service for a morning boner before getting out of bed... (-:

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I have had the same belief as you, where about 90% of the "heterosexual" MBs that I have met in my life - use the excuse of being a MB and doing it for the betterment of his family (as in having additional income) as an excuse for hiding their bisexualness or gayness (no need to come out).  In other words, to "have his cake and eat it to..."

With these 2 particular Russians - the first one was more bisexual than the 2nd one - who was more heterosexual-ish.  The first one was single and the 2nd one was married.  They were definitely both doing it to accumulate more income - as their primary sources of income; Youtube and soccer teaching, coaching and entertainment - did not earn enough income for the lifestyles that they wanted to maintain.
When the 3 of us would be together - they were both hired to massage me and then for the traditional happy ending - they NEVER touched each other - but they would get very excited (almost as if to be in a competition) to see who could resist the longest from ejaculating when I would jerk them off.  They would also get a kick out of seeing who shot their load the furthest.
 

When to Wai and when not to Wai - as per @RealThailander
One of most favorite Thai Youtube bloggers has just released a guide about Wai-ing.....
 
Do any of you follow him?
I value his Thai perspective especially when it is regarding a controversial topic.  I have written to him privately to ask for his enlightenment and he has been very accommodating.

https://youtu.be/jdZH60i3Slw?si=IOf4dAQTW_2NXMY7
 

No ping pong balls in evidence when I was at Nice Boys last week (I did look around to see if they had any). Anyway, I’m not sure the boys would look up from their phones if you threw a bucketful of ping pong balls (and maybe even the bucket itself) at them. 

I actually agree with what you wrote, except for the part where you mentioned to put the dementia afflicted person into an institution.
After watching many of my relatives go through the horrors of slowly disappearing into the world of dementia with their final stage of life in an assisted care institution, I personally witnessed first hand their displeasure of being forced into an environment that they had no connection or familiarity with, often resulting in them becoming more recluse or angry with the sense of abandonment by their loved ones.
In my pollyanna fantasy world, I would desire to find 2 guys to take care of me in my last years (hopefully even sooner) where these 2 guys love each other and would be willing to create a family with me. 
Why more than 1 guy?
Dealing with a person day in and day out is truly exhausting and requires a lot of stamina and patience - so 2 guys would be the minimum so that when 1 needs a psychological or mental break the other guy can be there for me.
I just want the last phase of my life to be at the sea with a seaview, as the sea has an incredible calming effect on me.
Is this fantasy too pollyanna-ish?

I’ve been planning my first visit to Bangkok (with a lot of help from this forum) for some time now, and tomorrow I finally fly out there for three days. Short visit I know, but I added it to the end of a three week vacation in Europe. Plan is to explore the scene, and return (I’m only a six hour flight away normally) for long weekends.
For this first visit, I decided to book a massage per day to start with. Thanks to @GoldMember & @MichaelJay70’s detailed reports, I booked with Ruj (TCS), Singha (S’Sense) and Sunji (History of Massages), in that order. I originally was meant to be in Bangkok for four days, and had booked Copper at History (pics attached) for my first massage - haven’t seen any reviews of him on here, but his photos were outstanding - but had to shorten my trip by a day and he was already booked out for the rest of my stay, so next time!
I’m a huge foodie, so have a couple of dinners booked in amazing spots. Other than that, everything else will be playing it by ear. I’ve downloaded Hornet (already have Grindr) and sounds like there are plenty of $$ and free options to explore there. Also planning to visit boy bars, Dreamboys and Midnight seem to be closest to offering my type (trunk model/fitness guys). Thanks to the forum, I feel knowledge equipped to handle the mamasans, drink buying, tips and offing should I meet someone I like.
Anyway, just wanted to start this off, and will update as I can. So grateful for this forum and the collective wisdom it offers

Get 500 bT note and a half sized glass and ball from the waiter. All contestants lower their pants to their knees and try to bounce a ping pong ball into the cup. Bet the boys have practiced. 
The game I watched had the originator going around to all the contestants and rubbing the boys butt cracks as they watched other contestants.

The last time I was in Pattaya I went to Nice Boys every night.
I would head straight to the pulpit seat, drinks would arrive and the fun would begin.
The guys wore undies, so it was easy to get to the goods. After the guy had cum, we'd sit and chat for a bit and then he would go to the toilet to clean up.
'Next, please!'
Some guys would be after seconds, which was fine by me. I only gave up when my arm got too sore. 😂😅😂
 
 

No ping pong balls in evidence when I was at Nice Boys last week (I did look around to see if they had any). Anyway, I’m not sure the boys would look up from their phones if you threw a bucketful of ping pong balls (and maybe even the bucket itself) at them. 

No ping pong balls in evidence when I was at Nice Boys last week (I did look around to see if they had any). Anyway, I’m not sure the boys would look up from their phones if you threw a bucketful of ping pong balls (and maybe even the bucket itself) at them. 

No ping pong balls in evidence when I was at Nice Boys last week (I did look around to see if they had any). Anyway, I’m not sure the boys would look up from their phones if you threw a bucketful of ping pong balls (and maybe even the bucket itself) at them. 

I popped in for a solo visit on Thursday evening. When I wandered past at about 7pm, the owner was outside and suggested that I come back at 8pm. 
So I returned at about 8:15pm, not wanting to appear too desperate, only to find that the place was quite full already. About six other customers, whom I took to be mostly regulars, as they had already hoovered up the best of the boys to sit next to them.
The four remaining on stage stood motionless staring at their phones and avoiding all eye contact. I picked one to sit next to me, and I enjoyed his company, although again he totally avoided any eye contact, presumably preferring to imagine he was a participant in one of the videos he watched on his phone.
I also had a great view to the left to me, where another customer had assembled a lineup of three boys. He worked through them one at a time. As each one finished, then the next moved over. Seemed like a fun way to arrange things, if budget allows.
Staff seemed quite cheery on this occasion, and I enjoyed my visit. I left at about 9:30pm, by which time almost all the boys were “resting and recuperating”.
So I have a feeling that the best time to come may be 7:59pm, or otherwise much later, but not in between.

I popped in for a solo visit on Thursday evening. When I wandered past at about 7pm, the owner was outside and suggested that I come back at 8pm. 
So I returned at about 8:15pm, not wanting to appear too desperate, only to find that the place was quite full already. About six other customers, whom I took to be mostly regulars, as they had already hoovered up the best of the boys to sit next to them.
The four remaining on stage stood motionless staring at their phones and avoiding all eye contact. I picked one to sit next to me, and I enjoyed his company, although again he totally avoided any eye contact, presumably preferring to imagine he was a participant in one of the videos he watched on his phone.
I also had a great view to the left to me, where another customer had assembled a lineup of three boys. He worked through them one at a time. As each one finished, then the next moved over. Seemed like a fun way to arrange things, if budget allows.
Staff seemed quite cheery on this occasion, and I enjoyed my visit. I left at about 9:30pm, by which time almost all the boys were “resting and recuperating”.
So I have a feeling that the best time to come may be 7:59pm, or otherwise much later, but not in between.

I popped in for a solo visit on Thursday evening. When I wandered past at about 7pm, the owner was outside and suggested that I come back at 8pm. 
So I returned at about 8:15pm, not wanting to appear too desperate, only to find that the place was quite full already. About six other customers, whom I took to be mostly regulars, as they had already hoovered up the best of the boys to sit next to them.
The four remaining on stage stood motionless staring at their phones and avoiding all eye contact. I picked one to sit next to me, and I enjoyed his company, although again he totally avoided any eye contact, presumably preferring to imagine he was a participant in one of the videos he watched on his phone.
I also had a great view to the left to me, where another customer had assembled a lineup of three boys. He worked through them one at a time. As each one finished, then the next moved over. Seemed like a fun way to arrange things, if budget allows.
Staff seemed quite cheery on this occasion, and I enjoyed my visit. I left at about 9:30pm, by which time almost all the boys were “resting and recuperating”.
So I have a feeling that the best time to come may be 7:59pm, or otherwise much later, but not in between.

I popped in for a solo visit on Thursday evening. When I wandered past at about 7pm, the owner was outside and suggested that I come back at 8pm. 
So I returned at about 8:15pm, not wanting to appear too desperate, only to find that the place was quite full already. About six other customers, whom I took to be mostly regulars, as they had already hoovered up the best of the boys to sit next to them.
The four remaining on stage stood motionless staring at their phones and avoiding all eye contact. I picked one to sit next to me, and I enjoyed his company, although again he totally avoided any eye contact, presumably preferring to imagine he was a participant in one of the videos he watched on his phone.
I also had a great view to the left to me, where another customer had assembled a lineup of three boys. He worked through them one at a time. As each one finished, then the next moved over. Seemed like a fun way to arrange things, if budget allows.
Staff seemed quite cheery on this occasion, and I enjoyed my visit. I left at about 9:30pm, by which time almost all the boys were “resting and recuperating”.
So I have a feeling that the best time to come may be 7:59pm, or otherwise much later, but not in between.

I popped in for a solo visit on Thursday evening. When I wandered past at about 7pm, the owner was outside and suggested that I come back at 8pm. 
So I returned at about 8:15pm, not wanting to appear too desperate, only to find that the place was quite full already. About six other customers, whom I took to be mostly regulars, as they had already hoovered up the best of the boys to sit next to them.
The four remaining on stage stood motionless staring at their phones and avoiding all eye contact. I picked one to sit next to me, and I enjoyed his company, although again he totally avoided any eye contact, presumably preferring to imagine he was a participant in one of the videos he watched on his phone.
I also had a great view to the left to me, where another customer had assembled a lineup of three boys. He worked through them one at a time. As each one finished, then the next moved over. Seemed like a fun way to arrange things, if budget allows.
Staff seemed quite cheery on this occasion, and I enjoyed my visit. I left at about 9:30pm, by which time almost all the boys were “resting and recuperating”.
So I have a feeling that the best time to come may be 7:59pm, or otherwise much later, but not in between.

I popped in for a solo visit on Thursday evening. When I wandered past at about 7pm, the owner was outside and suggested that I come back at 8pm. 
So I returned at about 8:15pm, not wanting to appear too desperate, only to find that the place was quite full already. About six other customers, whom I took to be mostly regulars, as they had already hoovered up the best of the boys to sit next to them.
The four remaining on stage stood motionless staring at their phones and avoiding all eye contact. I picked one to sit next to me, and I enjoyed his company, although again he totally avoided any eye contact, presumably preferring to imagine he was a participant in one of the videos he watched on his phone.
I also had a great view to the left to me, where another customer had assembled a lineup of three boys. He worked through them one at a time. As each one finished, then the next moved over. Seemed like a fun way to arrange things, if budget allows.
Staff seemed quite cheery on this occasion, and I enjoyed my visit. I left at about 9:30pm, by which time almost all the boys were “resting and recuperating”.
So I have a feeling that the best time to come may be 7:59pm, or otherwise much later, but not in between.

You should include some information about your age group and the age group you are looking for. This is important information as it will allow some tailored information to be given.

Great to see reports on Pattaya Go Go bars 
 
 

Went here recently and stupidly left my phone with 3000 bhat in the side pocket when I went to the lavatory. Came to pay 2000 baht missing. A lesson learnt. Avoid.
 

I don’t think I have ever seen any videos of dancers from Nice Boys in Sunee Plaza  on YouTube!
Are you sure that you are not mixing it up with Sunee Bar in Jomtien?  Their dancers feature on YouTube a bit.

Difficult to be too specific here on a web page that is open to the universe. I see a previous poster described a “kite-flying competition”. 300 baht placed in one of the bins, to be awarded to the first participant to complete the challenge, seemed to do the trick.
Of course, that was the illustrious members’ rate, at a time when the place was pretty much devoid of customers. Perhaps it might take more to generate sufficient excitement at other times. 

Update on this place, having paid my first visit here on Friday evening at about 9-10pm. Many thanks to other illustrious forum members for introducing and accompanying. 
Having arrived before them, with a little trouble finding the exact spot (location on Google Maps was out - I have since managed to get that corrected), and finding a seat, I asked for the drinks menu, to which the response was a laugh and “we don’t have one”.
Secure in the knowledge we would be in the company of experienced regulars, and having ordered the drink, it arrived but still no idea of price, nor any bin/chit. Only when they arrived some minutes later, did our bin and chit magically appear.
About 8 guys on stage, a fairly random selection of types. Shirtless but all wearing jeans or similar that would be suitable for a temple visit.
Thanks to said illustrious members for full introduction to available activities here, I certainly enjoyed the experience of this place. I have never been anywhere quite like it (or even heard of). It was very kind of you to take the time to provide the full guided tour.
I would certainly come back again, if for no other reason than to “pay it forward” when introducing others to the delights of Pattaya. I hope the place remains, though they could certainly do a few things to smarten it up. But the hiding of pricing was off-putting. If I was on my own, and no prices were available at a place, I would not stay in the first place.

Update on this place, having paid my first visit here on Friday evening at about 9-10pm. Many thanks to other illustrious forum members for introducing and accompanying. 
Having arrived before them, with a little trouble finding the exact spot (location on Google Maps was out - I have since managed to get that corrected), and finding a seat, I asked for the drinks menu, to which the response was a laugh and “we don’t have one”.
Secure in the knowledge we would be in the company of experienced regulars, and having ordered the drink, it arrived but still no idea of price, nor any bin/chit. Only when they arrived some minutes later, did our bin and chit magically appear.
About 8 guys on stage, a fairly random selection of types. Shirtless but all wearing jeans or similar that would be suitable for a temple visit.
Thanks to said illustrious members for full introduction to available activities here, I certainly enjoyed the experience of this place. I have never been anywhere quite like it (or even heard of). It was very kind of you to take the time to provide the full guided tour.
I would certainly come back again, if for no other reason than to “pay it forward” when introducing others to the delights of Pattaya. I hope the place remains, though they could certainly do a few things to smarten it up. But the hiding of pricing was off-putting. If I was on my own, and no prices were available at a place, I would not stay in the first place.