Kiwi306

I know that, from my own experience, there can definitely be a mind over matter connection. The attraction is definitely there, the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.....even with the addition of PED'S. There are peptides available which increase sexual desire, but they're expensive.

My thoughts exactly. I find it to be the most intimate sexual experience. I can't tell you what it does to me when I see 2 bulky bodybuilders kissing and fondling each other.

It's certainly a gay friendly budget hotel. What I really like is that you can get inward facing rooms which get no noise at all from the bars.

I'm glad you got the thread back on track, vinapu. The only piece of meat I had during my recent visit to Bangkok was 'T' from Tawan. I offed him several times. Either I went to the show or arranged to meet him before or during opening hours. He's probably the oldest guy in the bar, but I like his physique very much and he was very obliging with my request to kiss, which is something I find very erotic. I think a lot of the bodybuilders who are GFP aren't interested in kissing. Having said that, I would have possibly liked to have offed one or two of the other bodybuilders, but I felt loyal to T, and I know he's not getting much business.

Thaiophilus, do they still stand to attention for the national anthem? Back in the day I would go to the outdoor gym at Lumpini Park and I remember the music coming over the loudspeakers. All the bodybuilders stopped doing their weights and respectfully stood to attention. I was in Bangkok a few weeks ago and went to the park in the early evening, and, tbh, I can't recall hearing the music being played. I think the shine for the royal family is fading somewhat.

I was upgraded at Quarter Saladaeng on my first visit too, to what was basically a small apartment. I felt so lucky. I agree with everything everything else you say about the hotel. You can walk to the end of the street, go over the bridge and you are in Lumpini Park. I wonder if you discovered the outdoor gym there, Olddaddy.

Just to add, the complex has several bars and there are adjacent hotels.

The map is clear. Jomtien Complex has several gay bars and is within walking distance from Dongtan Beach, where there is a very gay-friendly area, which is popular with tourists and locals alike.

Yesterday I visited various gay travel sites and forums to notify that Tawan had been resurrected. One of the sites clearly stated that it was closed. So, let's keep spreading the word. I want Tawan to be around when I next return to Bangkok. I agree with Tawan Forever that they need to spread the word themselves through the various social media sites. I am still in touch with one of the guys who works there (I took him back to my hotel a few times) and he said that he's getting next to no business. And, yes, I agree with Tawan Forever as to why you would want to have a drag queen at The One. I could go to another bar if I wanted that type of show.

Regarding your question about 9-teen, Olddaddy, don't get caught out the way I did, which I documented in another post a few weeks ago. Two stunning guys called out to me when I was walking past, and I thought that either of them would suit me well. One of them directed me inside and matched me up with a guy who was absolutely not my type of all. I'm not the sort of guy who would cause offence, so I just went along with it, albeit rather reluctantly. I was not offered a choice of masseur, nor was there discussion about a tip. So, learn from my mistake. I should have asked if either of the boys would be my masseur or whether I would have a choice inside. Also, what tip they would expect and what service could be provided. Needless to say, my session did not give me a happy ending.

Hey, macaroni21, I'm really sorry to tell you that it's just a hardcore gym, which is down on Sukhumvit 56 and is a fairly long walk from On Nut BTS. As mentioned, there is no air-conditioning, just overhead fans. Lots of guys to ogle at in between workout sets.

Last year there were full-on sex shows at Tawan. Maybe the sex police put pressure on the bars. As with Tawan Forever, Tawan was the only bar I visited during my recent holiday in Thailand. I much prefer the muscular builds. And I stayed at Quarter Silom for a few nights, as it was only a hop, step and jump away. Tawan Forever, I wonder if you ever visited Muscle Factory in On Nut, which is a magnet for many bodybuilders who visit Bangkok.

I have a Thai niece and she recommended AIS. I organized to have it topped up before I left Thailand recently, so that it won't have expired before I next return.

Sorry, I edited the above message and stuffed up Verchiele's quotation.

You are given a small towel.... and I do mean small. Many guys wore underwear too. Most guys seemed to be covered up . However, you were told to be naked during the "show".

The crowd on the days I went was predominantly youngish Asians, but there were quite a few Europeans there too. There were some athletic and muscular physiques, but also lots of twinky types and guys of all shapes and sizes. But definitely there was a far greater crowd at the weekend rather than during weekdays.

During my recent stay in Bangkok I went to Krubb over 2 successive weekends. Weekend visits entitle you to a free admission pass during the week, which I took advantage of once. It was teeming with men at the weekend, but nowhere as busy during the week. Saturday and Sunday offered free cocktails at 8pm on the top floor, but if you loiter there too long, you will miss out on the show which takes place at the same time on a lower floor. One night the star of the show was an off-season bodybuilder, who started posing and it wasn't long before he was being fondled and caressed by hungry guys. Before you knew it, he was a top and a bottom at the same time. After the show finished, many guys ended up in the dark room for more action. It's quite a long way from Silom by BTS. I was staying in On Nut for a week, which was the next stop Be warned that there are many stairs, as it's a five storey building.

I wish I knew about this 3 weeks ago. Maybe next year.

Macaroni, you don't know what you are missing.

Spoon, thanks very much for your reports. I noticed that there was a 400 baht entrance fee to Beef. Does that include a drink? I wanted to go there, but didn't want to go alone. I agree with your comment about the advantages of off-season. Do hotel prices tend to be much higher and more likely to be booked out during high-season? Last July-August the weather was great, but I got soaked a couple of times this year.

Just to add to my post, I offed the same guy a few times. Rather than having to pay an entrance fee every time, I would either ring him and arrange to meet him outside the bar or just go there and ask him to come out to see me

500 baht entrance, which gives you a free drink. Off fee is also 500 baht. The first time I went to the show, I was approached by one of the guys and he asked if I wanted to off him. I immediately asked how much he wanted me to pay him and I was happy with his response. The very muscular, younger guys expect a higher price.

You don't need transport. Walk up Surawong and turn to the right on to Patpong or Patpong Alley 2 down to Silom Rd. From Quarter Silom it's a very short walk to Surawong or Silom. The Silom route takes you past the 9-teen massage parlors. Google maps gives you a walking time of 5-7 minutes to the many bars in the vicinity.

I still think you could consider Tarntawan or, if you have the budget, Quarter Silom, which has a pool, sauna and steam room as well as a basic gym. You don't need to cross roads to get to the bars or Silom 4. And it's a flat walk. Both of these hotels are just far enough back from Silom and Surawong roads to escape most of the outside noise, which is important for me. Quarter Silom rates can skyrocket at the weekend. I usually book through Agoda or booking.com.