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    sudoxi reacted to bkkmfj2648 in Site connection problems, AGAIN !   
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    sudoxi got a reaction from cfnmhertsuk in First time Pattaya report   
    I read a lot of reviews and compiled a list of various services. 
     
    https://www.thelimopattaya.com/rates/
    https://mikepattayataxi.com/rate-of-service/
    https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com
    https://www.pattaya4leisure.com/#booking
    https://www.flintstonespattaya.com/flintstones-drivers.html
     
    however based on reviews here and other forums nams was the best choice for me. I liked the service Would use again and I would recommend to anyone. Both pickups were on time drive was smooth and comfortable. I believe I chose a sedan L 

    Soda was around 1500 baht all in. Massage + tip. 
     
    all the posted showtimes are accurate they may start 5-10 minutes late while they wait for audience. Candy boys show was the longest at nearly 2 hours. 
     
    I used pattaya city tour co Ltd for the colosseum show. Was 699 baht for gold seat. Tiffany was more expensive, different tour operator quoted me same price as Klook so I just booked with the tour operator. Was a vip diamond ticket for 2000 baht 
    make sure you leave early cause pattaya traffic will make you late. 
     
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    sudoxi got a reaction from cfnmhertsuk in First time Pattaya report   
    Next day I went to Khao Kheow Open Zoo I joined a tour group which I was told was a Russian tour but English would be fine, it was not 😅. Tour guide spoke a little English however a few of the Russians on the tour did speak English, I used translation app to translate most of the tour info. Everyone was friendly enough. In the end the made everyone goto one of their shops to try and get people to buy overpriced items. The zoo was great. Got to see all the exhibits and everyone had a lot of fun. 

    Throughout the day the massage boy from Grindr kept messaging me, getting really needy. The bad thing was Every time I walked out of my hotel I walked by him at this massage shop and just waved and kept walking. I decided to goto M Bar to see what it was all about. However shows they on were uninteresting to me and it seems like this bar is mostly just to get the boys to sit with you and have a little fun on the couches. One boy came over asked me where I was from then said “ok tip for me” was kind of off putting, I wasn’t really interested in any as they look a bit too young and twinky for me, so I paid my bill and left. 
     
    I decided to head down to an actual gogo bar which was X-Boys. The show was fun they had their penis show where they used themselves to hit a golf ball into a hole which was fun. There was a live sex show, and a lot of dancing. It felt a bit more raunchier however the guys onstage seemed to be really into it and having a lot of fun. I didn’t enquire for off prices as I was a bit tired and wasn’t going to off anyone. I told mamasan I would be back another night. 
     
    when I got back I walked past soda massage and decided to get a massage with another boy. Went through the same motions this time not was top only we still had fun and for same price, no need to negotiate. 
     
    Friday I had lunch at buenos, had great food and a great margarita. I would definitely recommend if you are feeling like some Mexican food. 
    Tonight I decided to goto the venue for the Friday night sexy show, they have a lot of drag performers/lady boys they also have their sexy show with boys in tight fitting underwear/nearly nothing coming around for tips. I tipped one boy and he directed my hands into his pants. I would recommend this show but it wasn’t as good as the m2m bar show. Was a lot of interaction with the audience and everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves. However the bar was only 1/2 full. 
     
    after the show I checked Grindr and saw the massage boy messaging me again. I ignored. This time he told me how he has no room, needs money, etc etc. this time I decided to block him even tho I knew I would see him as I walked past. I likely would have seen him another time if he wasn’t so needy as I did enjoy having fun with him. 
     
    I message a boy who was on the Twunkier side on Grindr he advertised as massage boy. His shop was directly next to the agate, room was on top floor and had shower within. 300 for massage and 1000 tip for everything. Was well worth it. He performed well and knew what was up from the beginning, I enjoyed the massage as he was a bit stronger and he didn’t skimp on the extras.
     
    last day I decided to goto the colosseum show. I booked ticket with tour company for 1/2 the price everywhere else. Had great seats. I really did enjoy the show as did everyone else, the audience was mostly Chinese and they all came in groups by tour bus. The only thing I didn’t like was that some of the lady boys/queens  did not know the lyrics. However the visuals and the dance numbers made up for it. I would see both this and Tiffany again in the future. 
    after the show I came back and rested for a while then I decided to goto candy boys show, I wanted to goto this earlier in the week however they are not open every day. The seating for this show is more intimate as it’s couches however they are closer together so performers cannot walk Through easily to collect tips. This show had a live singer! It was great to watch him sing. I enjoyed the acts the only thing is between each act they play the same melody which gets kind of annoying. The performers were great and interacted with everyone. They had one cute dancer that I would definitely off. Not sure if it’s possible, I am too shy to ask if it’s not upfront. I would go back to:this show again. 
     
    after I decided to go back down to the gogo bars, I walked around however no shows were starting so i walked by a gogo bar called dreamboys however there is no show. The boys stand on stage.. that’s it.. felt kind of awkward. There was only one other person in the bar besides myself, one guy kept looking at me on stage and making it very obvious he wanted me to off him. I was interested in another guy too but he appeared bored and wasn’t looking. I decided to buy the guy making googly eyes at me a drink, we discussed fee. He asked 2500 I counted at 2000 which he accepted. He got dressed and left. I believe off fee here was 500. Caught a grab and headed back to hotel, he told me how it’s slower now, he use to dance as a gogo boy on walking street and make more per night, it’s what he likes to do but those bars have slowed down so he looked elsewhere. I forgot to mention when we stepped out of dreamsboys it’s directly across from xboys the mamasan was outside and she saw me and gave me the why you didn’t come back look. I was surprised she remembered I hid behind boy and she laughed. 
     
    boy and I had fun, I decided to tip him the 2500 he originally asked for cause he was great.
     
    i did a bit more shopping during the week, next time I think I would visit more gogo bars however I did like staying in Jomtien and I think I would again. I found nighboys club I didn’t go in because it was dead outside and kind of late. There are also a lot of boys around the bars in super town that appear to:be offable if you are braver than me to approach  .
     
    that was it for me in pattaya. I had a blast, I am in bangkok now and having a lot of fun. 
     

     
     
     
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    sudoxi got a reaction from cfnmhertsuk in First time Pattaya report   
    Last year was my first visit to thailand and I had a kit of fun so this year I decided to come a bit longer and do pattaya and bangkok. This report only focuses on pattaya. 
     
    I was a bit unsure if I wanted to take a taxi so I decided to hire a driver from nams lady drivers. Which was the right decision. They were waiting for me when I arrived and had a comfortable car waiting for me. Drive was pleasant. I would highly recommend. I also booked them for my transfer to bangkok, which was another great experience, 
    I booked the agate. I had a crystal pool room I believe, on the back side of the resort. Night time was very quiet no noise from the bars was heard. Staff were friendly. No issues with guests, able to come right up with me. 
     
    first day I stopped at soda massage. I picked a boy who was sitting down and off we went. Soda massage has a shared shower room, cabins are smaller but adequate with dim lights. You can however hear everything in the cabin as next to you, as I heard a guy negotiating a price with the boy he had. I didn’t negotiate any extras in the beginning. Massage was mostly light strokes after flipping boy gave me price however I’m sure he knew what price was negotiated next door cause he didn’t try to quote higher. I accepted. Surprisingly  he was verse and we had a fun time showered in the room with another guy showering aswell. 
     
    Back to my hotel for a quick nap to recover from my long flight. After I woke up I messaged a Thai guy on Grindr and had he come over for some fun. 
    I then headed over to the best bar for the show, this is a cabaret show, mostly drag queens lip syncing. This is my one gripe in these bars. The queens lip sync based on the sounds from the music, they do not know the English lyrics. I feel it would be much better if they lip synced to Thai songs. I highly doubt it bothers anyone else but it’s a little thing I notice, show was ok, I wasn’t really impressed. 
     
    next day I did some sight seeing and did some exploring, walked around the area I was staying, visited the gay beach and just get a general feel for the area. I booked the Tiffany Cabernet show for the evening. This show I truly enjoyed. The musical numbers were great. The outfits amazing, and the giant led screens that cover the entire back of the stage really immerse you into the performances. Was mostly a Chinese audience and everyone really enjoyed the show. I did end up taking pictures with a lot of the cast after its 100 baht per performer. The lip syncing was great here. 
     
    In the evening I went to m2m bar for the cabaret show, this show is really well choreographed. The lead boy is really good looking, I have seen him in videos and got lucky as he had just returned to the show after a 3 month trip in France. I got there just before the show was about to start and it was empty, however after 5-10 minutes the bar filled out with people arriving for the show. 
     
    after the show I went on Grindr and a boy messaged me who turns out was a Massage boy from a massage shop two doors down from agate. I decided to do massage at shop with him. We had a great time massage+ was 1200 all in. I had a great time however he kept pushing to massage in my room next time, still not sure why. 
     
    Next I went to Koh larn, I booked a tour which included speedboat transfer, sea walking, snorkelling,  couple hours on the beach and lunch. All in was 1600 which I felt was quite fair, I’m sure if you looked around you could get cheaper. The sea walking was really fun and is something I would likely do again. 
     
    after I got back I was tired and basically just slept the massage boy from the previous day messaged me again saying he wanted to see me again, I had a great time so I decided to:meet up:with him again for another good time. 
     
    will continue in a bit, just have to move laundry to dryer. 
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    sudoxi got a reaction from cfnmhertsuk in Bangkok trip report - 2 visit   
    This is my second visit to bangkok. I first stayed at pattaya for a week now I am in Bangkok for 2
    i am staying at the quarter saladaeng. I liked the Furama silom last year and would have booked again this year however I stayed in an executive club suite last year and the price has now doubled. However I am now staying here at the quarter in a premier room and it’s just as comfortable. Shower has great water pressure and hot water, have a full kitchen so I can utilize fridge and microwave, doubt I will be doing any cooking. No issues with guests. They can walk right in with me without any issue. They have laundry machines on site 60 baht wash and 80 dry. However the dryer will need atleast two runs to dry your clothes. 
     
    breakfast here is so so I have only had it once. They do have an egg station and can make you eggs anyway you like. They have usual se breakfast options and limited western style options. However they have lots of fruit and an automatic espresso machine.  They also have a cafe on site which you get 10% off as a hotel guest which serves bagel sandwiches and drinks/smoothies. 
     
    they also offer a shuttle to and from the local bts stations. Lots of food vendors around the hotel and walking distance to Senso massage. 
     
    first day I went to arena massage, I tried this last year based on reading this forum and really liked it, I like the all in pricing and the guys are fun. The guy I choose was fun however he surprised me cause he was really a bottom only. I guess I should have asked. I will return here next week maybe but some other shops I’m starting to like aswell. 
     
    second day I hired a tour guide. We went to ancient city, some local street markets were I was the only foreigner which was great to experience. We also went to some malls. The new roof top garden at dust Thani. He showed me some local eats around my hotel. I’ve actually booked another trip for tomorrow with this guide. after this long day I was tired and just passed out for the night. 
     
    Next day I went to prestige massage, they take card at no additional charge, I paid for massage with card but tipped in cash. The shop looks very modern and clean. They tables have proper head rests, which I appreciate it, the masseuse actually had good technique. After flipping over he asked if I wanted extra service. It was quoted at 2k which seems like a lot however he was very cute and I couldn’t resist 😊. The massage was great and the extras too, I will repeat and feel it’s worth it for what I paid. 
     
    that night I strolled patpong market as they were setting up, I didn’t realize they setup each night last year I only visited during the night, I bought banana roti then went back to my hotel for a quick nap and to shower before heading out for the night. I decided to goto fresh boys as this was my favourite bar last year. I arrived in the middle of the first show during the gig cock parade. I was shocked and happy to see my fav boy from last year still there! He did not see me yet tho. I got seated and was watching the show as he was still performing in it. Then the boy lineup started and I was viewing who was still here and new. I recognized three guys from last year, however one boy I talked to told me he was here last year too. 
     
    then my heart saddened as the boy I wanted was going to sit with another couple.. he walked past me and smiled and lit up! He recognized me from last year which made me have all kinds of feelings  I was sad but I was thinking maybe I will ask a different boy to sit with me. I contemplated but waited. The next show was starting and he left the couple as he was performing in the show, the mamasan came to me before and I said the boy I was interested in was busy. While he was in the show towards the end mamasan came to me again, I told her who I was interested in and I said I think he’s getting taken by the other couple. She said Nono I will check. I said ok I will buy drink if he is available. The drink came right away while he was still performing. 
     
    after the show he arrived! He remembered me from last year even where I stayed. He’s 100% top but not straight and very affectionate. It could be an act, and I am fine with living in the delusional, atleast while on vacation . We chatted and he remembered our failed threesome last year. I told him I wouldn’t mind trying again but we need someone less shy. Right away his face lit up and he told me about two boys, however one in particular. He told me he wanted to fuck him bad, so I asked that boy to come for drink too. We discussed specifics and whether or not he was comfortable, he said he was and wanted to try. I told him I want for the next night as it’s my first night at bar, he was fine, my main boy was about to take part in the main show. I asked second boy to stay with me until show is over he was fine with that. At the end I thanked him and tipped him 500 and said I would likely see him tomorrow. Came back to hotel with first boy and had an amazing time. I love that it’s not mechanical with him. He wants to make sure you are enjoying too. He asked me about travels and cuddles with me a while afterwards as we talked and also discussed tomorrows events. 
     
    next day I did the tourist boat and went up the river to wat lang market, did some shopping, stopped at khoasan road which was different than last year I visited. It was full of stalls selling items last year it was pretty empty, maybe I went on an off day. I was gonna head to some more stops but was tired, sadly my body doesn’t want to sleep in so everyday I’m getting up 7-8 even tho I’m going to bed 3-4 am. I came back to hotel and took a nap. 
     
    night I went back to fresh boys. I called down main boy and he wanted me to call second boy right away, which I did. I immediately let papasan know I wanted both and he said wow both you take me too, haha. Main boy asked if he could do big cock show first then we can go. I said of course. After the three of us left back to the hotel, once again no issues with staff. We showered and it was a much more memorable experience than last years threesome. Third boy was really into it and it was very hot watching my main boy fuck the second boy. They were both so into it and really enjoyed it. Second boy said he was verse however I feel he leans more verse bottom. I would do a threesome again with this boy but I like the one and one. 
     
    I do need to check out some of the other bars, I tend to find something I like and stick with it but I really want to experience some other bars. Like the new atlas. 
     
    I was finally able to sleep in until 9:30 am! I laid around the hotel until around 12 I made an appointment at Ssense. I walked there from my hotel but google gave some weird directions however I eventually found it. This is another more upscale massage place. They provided cooling cloth and iced tea upon arrival. I was able to pay for massage with card with the basic 3% charge.  Another boy brought me up the stairs to the massage room which was clean and modern looking, this room also had a proper headrest. After showering the masseuse arrived. He was very strong. He had the right technique and worked the muscles properly. When I was getting this massage I didn’t think I was gonna get any extras because the massage was so good. I flipped over, he continued to massage then asked if I wanted extra service, he quoted me at 900 for b2b which I felt was a steal, I agreed, in the end I did tip him more tho. He did things that felt like, but without penetration. It was very sensual and turned me on a lot. One thing that happened was we finished early about 10 minutes, I know other places may continue massage but he didn’t, I wasn’t upset by it, however he had to phone downstairs to reception and let them know and then he out me on the phone and asked me if everything was alright, this was a bit awkward however I guess they value reviews cause they pushed me to write a review.
     
    I came back to the hotel and did some laundry and relaxed, I wrote my pattaya report. 
     
    I already told my boy from fresh boys I was taking a break tonight and would likely see him on Friday, which I will. After my laundry later in the evening I decided to try another massage place which is close to my hotel and Ssense called the prince massage, this is another all in pricing venue. I didn’t go here last year because I confused it with prime massage, which I believe is a strictly professional location. 
     
    I arrived at Prince massage around 7:30 pm, there was three other guys sitting in chairs looking at the guys behind the glass who all lined up showing off to get chosen, now I like this and I hate this. I love that I can pick exact boy I want however I feel bad not picking a boy who really wants to be picked. Nearly all of them shirtless. There was 3-4 guys who stood out to me and I ended up picking one shirtless boy who kept smiling at me. I choose a deluxe room, however I think I ended up with a vip room cause it had a jacuzzi in it. This is all in pricing so I paid 2k for the room and 2k for the tip which is on the higher end for 90 minutes. The room has a large bed, no proper massage table, but I guess we are not there for that anyway. 
     
    the boy was strong tho, the massage was decent, not as good as Ssense but I would repeat. The extras where fine, he asked me do you want to top or bottom? I feel like this boy was more a bottom but h topped just fine. I asked the papasan for top and he told me /they all top/ which I think is theoretically true but I feel like I need to be more specific next time. He ensured we used the entire time. During the massage it started to downpour outside and you can hear it through the walls, the boy was very concerned about me leaving in the rain because it’s heavy rain, it wasn’t that bad and I walked to the street to get some food, heading back to:hotel to rest for the next day, 
     
    Tonight I’m going back to fresh boys first. I wanted to off my boy and we were going to goto that new gogo GASS BKK on the second floor above white rabbit but I don’t think it’s what I thought it was. I checked their facebook it appears just to be a dance bar with gogo boys. Can anyone confirm? Instead I think I’m gonna ask him if he is fine going to circus to watch the drag show, but yet again I don’t know if they still have a 11 pm show. So I guess we will see what happens tonight. 
     
    tomorrow I head off to the train market and some local villages on a tour. I will write more as it happens and answer any questions, 
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    sudoxi reacted to mauRICE in Bangkok and Pattaya, Nov/Dec 2025   
    Quick vocab lesson:
    I'm a gay top. ผมเป็นเกย์รุก phom bpen gay ruuk
    Can you bottom? น้องรับได้ไหมครับ nong rab dai mai krab 
    Rab here (pronounced as "rub") literally means to receive.
    Show him the above or you can do an even quicker "Me-Tarzan-You-Jane" version like this:
    Point to yourself and say, "phom ruuk". (I'm top.)
    and affectionately but firmly put your hand on his and ask, "rab dai mai?" (Can you receive?)
    Notice I didn't use the word "gay" when referring to him at all as it usually doesn't matter in these transactions. It's about what he is willing or not willing to do. Besides, a straight-acting genuinely gay guy would unlikely admit it in front of his friends more so if he's Burmese.
    And if you're a bottom, just put your hand on the guy's dick and say "You fuck me OK?" It has worked for 99% of the members here. Am I right, vinapu? 😏
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    sudoxi got a reaction from Dannyxxx in Trip advice   
    I second this. No issues changing 1000 baht notes into 100baht bills at the clubs I went to. Banana, fresh boys, moonlight. 
     
     
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    sudoxi reacted to zoomomancs in Trip advice   
    In Goodboys and Freshboys I ask to change 1000bt notes into 100bt all the time so I can tip. I have been with so many of the lads it soon goes.
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    sudoxi got a reaction from Vessey in First time Pattaya report   
    Next day I went to Khao Kheow Open Zoo I joined a tour group which I was told was a Russian tour but English would be fine, it was not 😅. Tour guide spoke a little English however a few of the Russians on the tour did speak English, I used translation app to translate most of the tour info. Everyone was friendly enough. In the end the made everyone goto one of their shops to try and get people to buy overpriced items. The zoo was great. Got to see all the exhibits and everyone had a lot of fun. 

    Throughout the day the massage boy from Grindr kept messaging me, getting really needy. The bad thing was Every time I walked out of my hotel I walked by him at this massage shop and just waved and kept walking. I decided to goto M Bar to see what it was all about. However shows they on were uninteresting to me and it seems like this bar is mostly just to get the boys to sit with you and have a little fun on the couches. One boy came over asked me where I was from then said “ok tip for me” was kind of off putting, I wasn’t really interested in any as they look a bit too young and twinky for me, so I paid my bill and left. 
     
    I decided to head down to an actual gogo bar which was X-Boys. The show was fun they had their penis show where they used themselves to hit a golf ball into a hole which was fun. There was a live sex show, and a lot of dancing. It felt a bit more raunchier however the guys onstage seemed to be really into it and having a lot of fun. I didn’t enquire for off prices as I was a bit tired and wasn’t going to off anyone. I told mamasan I would be back another night. 
     
    when I got back I walked past soda massage and decided to get a massage with another boy. Went through the same motions this time not was top only we still had fun and for same price, no need to negotiate. 
     
    Friday I had lunch at buenos, had great food and a great margarita. I would definitely recommend if you are feeling like some Mexican food. 
    Tonight I decided to goto the venue for the Friday night sexy show, they have a lot of drag performers/lady boys they also have their sexy show with boys in tight fitting underwear/nearly nothing coming around for tips. I tipped one boy and he directed my hands into his pants. I would recommend this show but it wasn’t as good as the m2m bar show. Was a lot of interaction with the audience and everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves. However the bar was only 1/2 full. 
     
    after the show I checked Grindr and saw the massage boy messaging me again. I ignored. This time he told me how he has no room, needs money, etc etc. this time I decided to block him even tho I knew I would see him as I walked past. I likely would have seen him another time if he wasn’t so needy as I did enjoy having fun with him. 
     
    I message a boy who was on the Twunkier side on Grindr he advertised as massage boy. His shop was directly next to the agate, room was on top floor and had shower within. 300 for massage and 1000 tip for everything. Was well worth it. He performed well and knew what was up from the beginning, I enjoyed the massage as he was a bit stronger and he didn’t skimp on the extras.
     
    last day I decided to goto the colosseum show. I booked ticket with tour company for 1/2 the price everywhere else. Had great seats. I really did enjoy the show as did everyone else, the audience was mostly Chinese and they all came in groups by tour bus. The only thing I didn’t like was that some of the lady boys/queens  did not know the lyrics. However the visuals and the dance numbers made up for it. I would see both this and Tiffany again in the future. 
    after the show I came back and rested for a while then I decided to goto candy boys show, I wanted to goto this earlier in the week however they are not open every day. The seating for this show is more intimate as it’s couches however they are closer together so performers cannot walk Through easily to collect tips. This show had a live singer! It was great to watch him sing. I enjoyed the acts the only thing is between each act they play the same melody which gets kind of annoying. The performers were great and interacted with everyone. They had one cute dancer that I would definitely off. Not sure if it’s possible, I am too shy to ask if it’s not upfront. I would go back to:this show again. 
     
    after I decided to go back down to the gogo bars, I walked around however no shows were starting so i walked by a gogo bar called dreamboys however there is no show. The boys stand on stage.. that’s it.. felt kind of awkward. There was only one other person in the bar besides myself, one guy kept looking at me on stage and making it very obvious he wanted me to off him. I was interested in another guy too but he appeared bored and wasn’t looking. I decided to buy the guy making googly eyes at me a drink, we discussed fee. He asked 2500 I counted at 2000 which he accepted. He got dressed and left. I believe off fee here was 500. Caught a grab and headed back to hotel, he told me how it’s slower now, he use to dance as a gogo boy on walking street and make more per night, it’s what he likes to do but those bars have slowed down so he looked elsewhere. I forgot to mention when we stepped out of dreamsboys it’s directly across from xboys the mamasan was outside and she saw me and gave me the why you didn’t come back look. I was surprised she remembered I hid behind boy and she laughed. 
     
    boy and I had fun, I decided to tip him the 2500 he originally asked for cause he was great.
     
    i did a bit more shopping during the week, next time I think I would visit more gogo bars however I did like staying in Jomtien and I think I would again. I found nighboys club I didn’t go in because it was dead outside and kind of late. There are also a lot of boys around the bars in super town that appear to:be offable if you are braver than me to approach  .
     
    that was it for me in pattaya. I had a blast, I am in bangkok now and having a lot of fun. 
     

     
     
     
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    sudoxi got a reaction from Vessey in First time Pattaya report   
    Last year was my first visit to thailand and I had a kit of fun so this year I decided to come a bit longer and do pattaya and bangkok. This report only focuses on pattaya. 
     
    I was a bit unsure if I wanted to take a taxi so I decided to hire a driver from nams lady drivers. Which was the right decision. They were waiting for me when I arrived and had a comfortable car waiting for me. Drive was pleasant. I would highly recommend. I also booked them for my transfer to bangkok, which was another great experience, 
    I booked the agate. I had a crystal pool room I believe, on the back side of the resort. Night time was very quiet no noise from the bars was heard. Staff were friendly. No issues with guests, able to come right up with me. 
     
    first day I stopped at soda massage. I picked a boy who was sitting down and off we went. Soda massage has a shared shower room, cabins are smaller but adequate with dim lights. You can however hear everything in the cabin as next to you, as I heard a guy negotiating a price with the boy he had. I didn’t negotiate any extras in the beginning. Massage was mostly light strokes after flipping boy gave me price however I’m sure he knew what price was negotiated next door cause he didn’t try to quote higher. I accepted. Surprisingly  he was verse and we had a fun time showered in the room with another guy showering aswell. 
     
    Back to my hotel for a quick nap to recover from my long flight. After I woke up I messaged a Thai guy on Grindr and had he come over for some fun. 
    I then headed over to the best bar for the show, this is a cabaret show, mostly drag queens lip syncing. This is my one gripe in these bars. The queens lip sync based on the sounds from the music, they do not know the English lyrics. I feel it would be much better if they lip synced to Thai songs. I highly doubt it bothers anyone else but it’s a little thing I notice, show was ok, I wasn’t really impressed. 
     
    next day I did some sight seeing and did some exploring, walked around the area I was staying, visited the gay beach and just get a general feel for the area. I booked the Tiffany Cabernet show for the evening. This show I truly enjoyed. The musical numbers were great. The outfits amazing, and the giant led screens that cover the entire back of the stage really immerse you into the performances. Was mostly a Chinese audience and everyone really enjoyed the show. I did end up taking pictures with a lot of the cast after its 100 baht per performer. The lip syncing was great here. 
     
    In the evening I went to m2m bar for the cabaret show, this show is really well choreographed. The lead boy is really good looking, I have seen him in videos and got lucky as he had just returned to the show after a 3 month trip in France. I got there just before the show was about to start and it was empty, however after 5-10 minutes the bar filled out with people arriving for the show. 
     
    after the show I went on Grindr and a boy messaged me who turns out was a Massage boy from a massage shop two doors down from agate. I decided to do massage at shop with him. We had a great time massage+ was 1200 all in. I had a great time however he kept pushing to massage in my room next time, still not sure why. 
     
    Next I went to Koh larn, I booked a tour which included speedboat transfer, sea walking, snorkelling,  couple hours on the beach and lunch. All in was 1600 which I felt was quite fair, I’m sure if you looked around you could get cheaper. The sea walking was really fun and is something I would likely do again. 
     
    after I got back I was tired and basically just slept the massage boy from the previous day messaged me again saying he wanted to see me again, I had a great time so I decided to:meet up:with him again for another good time. 
     
    will continue in a bit, just have to move laundry to dryer. 
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    Next day I went to Khao Kheow Open Zoo I joined a tour group which I was told was a Russian tour but English would be fine, it was not 😅. Tour guide spoke a little English however a few of the Russians on the tour did speak English, I used translation app to translate most of the tour info. Everyone was friendly enough. In the end the made everyone goto one of their shops to try and get people to buy overpriced items. The zoo was great. Got to see all the exhibits and everyone had a lot of fun. 

    Throughout the day the massage boy from Grindr kept messaging me, getting really needy. The bad thing was Every time I walked out of my hotel I walked by him at this massage shop and just waved and kept walking. I decided to goto M Bar to see what it was all about. However shows they on were uninteresting to me and it seems like this bar is mostly just to get the boys to sit with you and have a little fun on the couches. One boy came over asked me where I was from then said “ok tip for me” was kind of off putting, I wasn’t really interested in any as they look a bit too young and twinky for me, so I paid my bill and left. 
     
    I decided to head down to an actual gogo bar which was X-Boys. The show was fun they had their penis show where they used themselves to hit a golf ball into a hole which was fun. There was a live sex show, and a lot of dancing. It felt a bit more raunchier however the guys onstage seemed to be really into it and having a lot of fun. I didn’t enquire for off prices as I was a bit tired and wasn’t going to off anyone. I told mamasan I would be back another night. 
     
    when I got back I walked past soda massage and decided to get a massage with another boy. Went through the same motions this time not was top only we still had fun and for same price, no need to negotiate. 
     
    Friday I had lunch at buenos, had great food and a great margarita. I would definitely recommend if you are feeling like some Mexican food. 
    Tonight I decided to goto the venue for the Friday night sexy show, they have a lot of drag performers/lady boys they also have their sexy show with boys in tight fitting underwear/nearly nothing coming around for tips. I tipped one boy and he directed my hands into his pants. I would recommend this show but it wasn’t as good as the m2m bar show. Was a lot of interaction with the audience and everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves. However the bar was only 1/2 full. 
     
    after the show I checked Grindr and saw the massage boy messaging me again. I ignored. This time he told me how he has no room, needs money, etc etc. this time I decided to block him even tho I knew I would see him as I walked past. I likely would have seen him another time if he wasn’t so needy as I did enjoy having fun with him. 
     
    I message a boy who was on the Twunkier side on Grindr he advertised as massage boy. His shop was directly next to the agate, room was on top floor and had shower within. 300 for massage and 1000 tip for everything. Was well worth it. He performed well and knew what was up from the beginning, I enjoyed the massage as he was a bit stronger and he didn’t skimp on the extras.
     
    last day I decided to goto the colosseum show. I booked ticket with tour company for 1/2 the price everywhere else. Had great seats. I really did enjoy the show as did everyone else, the audience was mostly Chinese and they all came in groups by tour bus. The only thing I didn’t like was that some of the lady boys/queens  did not know the lyrics. However the visuals and the dance numbers made up for it. I would see both this and Tiffany again in the future. 
    after the show I came back and rested for a while then I decided to goto candy boys show, I wanted to goto this earlier in the week however they are not open every day. The seating for this show is more intimate as it’s couches however they are closer together so performers cannot walk Through easily to collect tips. This show had a live singer! It was great to watch him sing. I enjoyed the acts the only thing is between each act they play the same melody which gets kind of annoying. The performers were great and interacted with everyone. They had one cute dancer that I would definitely off. Not sure if it’s possible, I am too shy to ask if it’s not upfront. I would go back to:this show again. 
     
    after I decided to go back down to the gogo bars, I walked around however no shows were starting so i walked by a gogo bar called dreamboys however there is no show. The boys stand on stage.. that’s it.. felt kind of awkward. There was only one other person in the bar besides myself, one guy kept looking at me on stage and making it very obvious he wanted me to off him. I was interested in another guy too but he appeared bored and wasn’t looking. I decided to buy the guy making googly eyes at me a drink, we discussed fee. He asked 2500 I counted at 2000 which he accepted. He got dressed and left. I believe off fee here was 500. Caught a grab and headed back to hotel, he told me how it’s slower now, he use to dance as a gogo boy on walking street and make more per night, it’s what he likes to do but those bars have slowed down so he looked elsewhere. I forgot to mention when we stepped out of dreamsboys it’s directly across from xboys the mamasan was outside and she saw me and gave me the why you didn’t come back look. I was surprised she remembered I hid behind boy and she laughed. 
     
    boy and I had fun, I decided to tip him the 2500 he originally asked for cause he was great.
     
    i did a bit more shopping during the week, next time I think I would visit more gogo bars however I did like staying in Jomtien and I think I would again. I found nighboys club I didn’t go in because it was dead outside and kind of late. There are also a lot of boys around the bars in super town that appear to:be offable if you are braver than me to approach  .
     
    that was it for me in pattaya. I had a blast, I am in bangkok now and having a lot of fun. 
     

     
     
     
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    I visited moonlight a couple days ago. I agree with your comments, will write more in my report later. However I did ask the papasan. Models are offable. Models are 1000 baht off fee to the bar and number boys are 500, I never called any down so I don’t know their specific rates to take out. 
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    I visited moonlight a couple days ago. I agree with your comments, will write more in my report later. However I did ask the papasan. Models are offable. Models are 1000 baht off fee to the bar and number boys are 500, I never called any down so I don’t know their specific rates to take out. 
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    I visited moonlight a couple days ago. I agree with your comments, will write more in my report later. However I did ask the papasan. Models are offable. Models are 1000 baht off fee to the bar and number boys are 500, I never called any down so I don’t know their specific rates to take out. 
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    Yes the shy type…,
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    Day 0 (lol) Travel Day.
    Flight leaving Denver was 30 minutes late.  Not totally unexpected, as most things landing and taking off at Denver are always delayed.  Same for San Francisco.  Total of 20 hours confined on a flying tin can, plus an additional six hours in layovers.  Draining experience to say the least.  I moved to Denver from the SF Bay Area a few years ago and at that time the SF airport had completed their new international terminal and the older terminal buildings were undergoing renovation.  Was somewhat of a surprise to find the airport once again undergoing some reno projects.  Made for a very long walk from arrival gate to international departure gate.  At least it did not require leaving a secure area so no need to pass through security checkpoint again.  Next stop Taipei.  It has been many years since I have flown through Taipei for anything…probably 20 or more.  Back then it was still called Chiang Kai-Shek International and consisted of two main terminal buildings.  Now we are Taiwan Taoyuan International with terminals A, B, C, and D.  Naturally, our arrival was in Terminal D and the new departure gate was in A…thus another very long walk.  Certainly got my steps in on this trip.  Change in carrier from United to EVA.  Was reminded once on board EVA how much better the Asian carriers do at customer service and the food was pretty amazing.  US carriers in general are just bad all around…in my humble opinion…by comparison.  Somewhere between Denver and Bangkok I completely lost one day.  Wednesday just ceased to exist.  Arrival was 10:30am Thursday morning.  In my previous trips to visit with my Thai friends, they always had me arrive late in the evening between 11pm and midnight.  Not sure why they always preferred that…possibly work and family schedules…but the late arrival always messed up my internal body clock and I had a terrible time adjusting for a few days.  Since I was not planning to depend on them for this trip, I scheduled my arrival for mid-morning and I have learned that is much better.  Will definitely do that again.  Arrival was on time, immigration/customs was a breeze, and I didn’t need to wait on my checked bag.  I had completed the new online entry form prior to departure in Denver and printed it out.  Went through the priority line for seniors with no wait whatsoever.  My luggage was on the carousel before I got there, probably because of the distance I had to walk from the arrival gate to baggage claim.  These airports are so huge nowadays.  Thanks to recommendations from forum members, I had pre-booked with SP Limousine Service.  They provided very detailed info via email about where to meet their contact person, and it was seamless.  I think the entire process from deplaning to getting in the reserved car and on the freeway heading to my hotel was only 45 minutes!  I was amazed…and grateful.  Other than the travel duration, in general the trip was long and tiring but uneventful.
    Day 1 Bangkok
    Thanks to the many posts and recommendations from forum members, I decided to step outside of my normal comfort zone.  After all, this trip was all about me and having some fun…not spending time with my friends and their families.  Naturally, traffic from Suvarnabhumi to Silom was horrendous, so even though my entry to Thailand was smooth sailing, it was probably 1pm before arriving at Ibis Styles Silom.  Overall first impression was it was new, modern, and staff was all very friendly and helpful.  Check-in was easy and I was given a room on the 5th floor.  As per previous comments on the forum, rooms are definitely on the small side.  Since I have never stayed in a hotel here before, I really have nothing to compare it to.  For me, it’s fine, but with two persons for a week I imagine it would be very cramped.  View out the window was a bit unusual.  My room overlooked the back which was mostly low income family residences.  Lots of small, pieced together buildings mostly of steel siding and roofs or fiberglass.  Just not something I expected to see in the middle of Bangkok.  I would have thought some developer would have bought up all of that property and built another shopping mall or high rise.  However, it did make for some interesting people watching.  To be honest, I wasn’t really planning on much excitement the first day in BKK assuming I would be exhausted.  Those plans quickly changed.  Based upon several recent posts on the forum about using apps and how successful some members were, I decided to add Grinder to my phone.  While I did not post a photo, I was pretty honest about age and appearance.  It was like my phone was blowing up!  From the time I checked in to my hotel until my first ‘date’ was about 4.5 hours.  27 year old, originally from Surin, twink, very dark complexion and a real cutie.  Just getting off work at 5pm…where was I staying…could be here by 5:30pm via BTS…could we please meet.  I simply couldn’t refuse.  Met in the lobby then went up to my room.  No issues with front desk at all.  Nobody said anything.  Took a shower together and then had some playtime or as I like to say…did the wild thing.  Decided to go upstairs to the rooftop and checkout the pool, bar, and fitness areas.  Enjoyed some liquid refreshment and ordered some dinner at the bar.  Nice evening enjoying the Bangkok skyline from the outdoor seating area, food was good, although a little on the spicy side for me, and pleasant company.  Nice conversation over dinner, and then back to the room for round 2.  He headed home around 10pm.  I didn’t invite as I really was completely wore out by then and ready to just crash.  Oh, and not a MB.  All in all, a great first day and I surprised myself at being so adventurous.  Certainly helped with the jet lag to stay up and active until 10pm.  Had to turn my phone to silent.  Went right to sleep and other than a couple of trips to the bathroom during the night (normal routine) slept soundly until morning.  Woke up refreshed, hungry, and ready for more experiences.
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    This is my second visit to bangkok. I first stayed at pattaya for a week now I am in Bangkok for 2
    i am staying at the quarter saladaeng. I liked the Furama silom last year and would have booked again this year however I stayed in an executive club suite last year and the price has now doubled. However I am now staying here at the quarter in a premier room and it’s just as comfortable. Shower has great water pressure and hot water, have a full kitchen so I can utilize fridge and microwave, doubt I will be doing any cooking. No issues with guests. They can walk right in with me without any issue. They have laundry machines on site 60 baht wash and 80 dry. However the dryer will need atleast two runs to dry your clothes. 
     
    breakfast here is so so I have only had it once. They do have an egg station and can make you eggs anyway you like. They have usual se breakfast options and limited western style options. However they have lots of fruit and an automatic espresso machine.  They also have a cafe on site which you get 10% off as a hotel guest which serves bagel sandwiches and drinks/smoothies. 
     
    they also offer a shuttle to and from the local bts stations. Lots of food vendors around the hotel and walking distance to Senso massage. 
     
    first day I went to arena massage, I tried this last year based on reading this forum and really liked it, I like the all in pricing and the guys are fun. The guy I choose was fun however he surprised me cause he was really a bottom only. I guess I should have asked. I will return here next week maybe but some other shops I’m starting to like aswell. 
     
    second day I hired a tour guide. We went to ancient city, some local street markets were I was the only foreigner which was great to experience. We also went to some malls. The new roof top garden at dust Thani. He showed me some local eats around my hotel. I’ve actually booked another trip for tomorrow with this guide. after this long day I was tired and just passed out for the night. 
     
    Next day I went to prestige massage, they take card at no additional charge, I paid for massage with card but tipped in cash. The shop looks very modern and clean. They tables have proper head rests, which I appreciate it, the masseuse actually had good technique. After flipping over he asked if I wanted extra service. It was quoted at 2k which seems like a lot however he was very cute and I couldn’t resist 😊. The massage was great and the extras too, I will repeat and feel it’s worth it for what I paid. 
     
    that night I strolled patpong market as they were setting up, I didn’t realize they setup each night last year I only visited during the night, I bought banana roti then went back to my hotel for a quick nap and to shower before heading out for the night. I decided to goto fresh boys as this was my favourite bar last year. I arrived in the middle of the first show during the gig cock parade. I was shocked and happy to see my fav boy from last year still there! He did not see me yet tho. I got seated and was watching the show as he was still performing in it. Then the boy lineup started and I was viewing who was still here and new. I recognized three guys from last year, however one boy I talked to told me he was here last year too. 
     
    then my heart saddened as the boy I wanted was going to sit with another couple.. he walked past me and smiled and lit up! He recognized me from last year which made me have all kinds of feelings  I was sad but I was thinking maybe I will ask a different boy to sit with me. I contemplated but waited. The next show was starting and he left the couple as he was performing in the show, the mamasan came to me before and I said the boy I was interested in was busy. While he was in the show towards the end mamasan came to me again, I told her who I was interested in and I said I think he’s getting taken by the other couple. She said Nono I will check. I said ok I will buy drink if he is available. The drink came right away while he was still performing. 
     
    after the show he arrived! He remembered me from last year even where I stayed. He’s 100% top but not straight and very affectionate. It could be an act, and I am fine with living in the delusional, atleast while on vacation . We chatted and he remembered our failed threesome last year. I told him I wouldn’t mind trying again but we need someone less shy. Right away his face lit up and he told me about two boys, however one in particular. He told me he wanted to fuck him bad, so I asked that boy to come for drink too. We discussed specifics and whether or not he was comfortable, he said he was and wanted to try. I told him I want for the next night as it’s my first night at bar, he was fine, my main boy was about to take part in the main show. I asked second boy to stay with me until show is over he was fine with that. At the end I thanked him and tipped him 500 and said I would likely see him tomorrow. Came back to hotel with first boy and had an amazing time. I love that it’s not mechanical with him. He wants to make sure you are enjoying too. He asked me about travels and cuddles with me a while afterwards as we talked and also discussed tomorrows events. 
     
    next day I did the tourist boat and went up the river to wat lang market, did some shopping, stopped at khoasan road which was different than last year I visited. It was full of stalls selling items last year it was pretty empty, maybe I went on an off day. I was gonna head to some more stops but was tired, sadly my body doesn’t want to sleep in so everyday I’m getting up 7-8 even tho I’m going to bed 3-4 am. I came back to hotel and took a nap. 
     
    night I went back to fresh boys. I called down main boy and he wanted me to call second boy right away, which I did. I immediately let papasan know I wanted both and he said wow both you take me too, haha. Main boy asked if he could do big cock show first then we can go. I said of course. After the three of us left back to the hotel, once again no issues with staff. We showered and it was a much more memorable experience than last years threesome. Third boy was really into it and it was very hot watching my main boy fuck the second boy. They were both so into it and really enjoyed it. Second boy said he was verse however I feel he leans more verse bottom. I would do a threesome again with this boy but I like the one and one. 
     
    I do need to check out some of the other bars, I tend to find something I like and stick with it but I really want to experience some other bars. Like the new atlas. 
     
    I was finally able to sleep in until 9:30 am! I laid around the hotel until around 12 I made an appointment at Ssense. I walked there from my hotel but google gave some weird directions however I eventually found it. This is another more upscale massage place. They provided cooling cloth and iced tea upon arrival. I was able to pay for massage with card with the basic 3% charge.  Another boy brought me up the stairs to the massage room which was clean and modern looking, this room also had a proper headrest. After showering the masseuse arrived. He was very strong. He had the right technique and worked the muscles properly. When I was getting this massage I didn’t think I was gonna get any extras because the massage was so good. I flipped over, he continued to massage then asked if I wanted extra service, he quoted me at 900 for b2b which I felt was a steal, I agreed, in the end I did tip him more tho. He did things that felt like, but without penetration. It was very sensual and turned me on a lot. One thing that happened was we finished early about 10 minutes, I know other places may continue massage but he didn’t, I wasn’t upset by it, however he had to phone downstairs to reception and let them know and then he out me on the phone and asked me if everything was alright, this was a bit awkward however I guess they value reviews cause they pushed me to write a review.
     
    I came back to the hotel and did some laundry and relaxed, I wrote my pattaya report. 
     
    I already told my boy from fresh boys I was taking a break tonight and would likely see him on Friday, which I will. After my laundry later in the evening I decided to try another massage place which is close to my hotel and Ssense called the prince massage, this is another all in pricing venue. I didn’t go here last year because I confused it with prime massage, which I believe is a strictly professional location. 
     
    I arrived at Prince massage around 7:30 pm, there was three other guys sitting in chairs looking at the guys behind the glass who all lined up showing off to get chosen, now I like this and I hate this. I love that I can pick exact boy I want however I feel bad not picking a boy who really wants to be picked. Nearly all of them shirtless. There was 3-4 guys who stood out to me and I ended up picking one shirtless boy who kept smiling at me. I choose a deluxe room, however I think I ended up with a vip room cause it had a jacuzzi in it. This is all in pricing so I paid 2k for the room and 2k for the tip which is on the higher end for 90 minutes. The room has a large bed, no proper massage table, but I guess we are not there for that anyway. 
     
    the boy was strong tho, the massage was decent, not as good as Ssense but I would repeat. The extras where fine, he asked me do you want to top or bottom? I feel like this boy was more a bottom but h topped just fine. I asked the papasan for top and he told me /they all top/ which I think is theoretically true but I feel like I need to be more specific next time. He ensured we used the entire time. During the massage it started to downpour outside and you can hear it through the walls, the boy was very concerned about me leaving in the rain because it’s heavy rain, it wasn’t that bad and I walked to the street to get some food, heading back to:hotel to rest for the next day, 
     
    Tonight I’m going back to fresh boys first. I wanted to off my boy and we were going to goto that new gogo GASS BKK on the second floor above white rabbit but I don’t think it’s what I thought it was. I checked their facebook it appears just to be a dance bar with gogo boys. Can anyone confirm? Instead I think I’m gonna ask him if he is fine going to circus to watch the drag show, but yet again I don’t know if they still have a 11 pm show. So I guess we will see what happens tonight. 
     
    tomorrow I head off to the train market and some local villages on a tour. I will write more as it happens and answer any questions, 
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    Quick Update. I tried TongTong. Good recommendations, While he was not as strong as Previous masseuse he made up for it by using his body, knees, elbows to apply strong pressure. I tried the Body Scrub & Massage. I was a little sceptical because they don't use a shower table but I enjoyed it and he kept it fun throughout. I was quoted same Min tip from both Masseuse for B2B so maybe its standard here. While previous masseuse didn't pressure me for Review tonguing did, even asking if I already left review and could update date & with his name. So I guess they still rely on reviews for rankings. Just a quick update I as I was responding to a DM. 
     
     
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    Last year was my first visit to thailand and I had a kit of fun so this year I decided to come a bit longer and do pattaya and bangkok. This report only focuses on pattaya. 
     
    I was a bit unsure if I wanted to take a taxi so I decided to hire a driver from nams lady drivers. Which was the right decision. They were waiting for me when I arrived and had a comfortable car waiting for me. Drive was pleasant. I would highly recommend. I also booked them for my transfer to bangkok, which was another great experience, 
    I booked the agate. I had a crystal pool room I believe, on the back side of the resort. Night time was very quiet no noise from the bars was heard. Staff were friendly. No issues with guests, able to come right up with me. 
     
    first day I stopped at soda massage. I picked a boy who was sitting down and off we went. Soda massage has a shared shower room, cabins are smaller but adequate with dim lights. You can however hear everything in the cabin as next to you, as I heard a guy negotiating a price with the boy he had. I didn’t negotiate any extras in the beginning. Massage was mostly light strokes after flipping boy gave me price however I’m sure he knew what price was negotiated next door cause he didn’t try to quote higher. I accepted. Surprisingly  he was verse and we had a fun time showered in the room with another guy showering aswell. 
     
    Back to my hotel for a quick nap to recover from my long flight. After I woke up I messaged a Thai guy on Grindr and had he come over for some fun. 
    I then headed over to the best bar for the show, this is a cabaret show, mostly drag queens lip syncing. This is my one gripe in these bars. The queens lip sync based on the sounds from the music, they do not know the English lyrics. I feel it would be much better if they lip synced to Thai songs. I highly doubt it bothers anyone else but it’s a little thing I notice, show was ok, I wasn’t really impressed. 
     
    next day I did some sight seeing and did some exploring, walked around the area I was staying, visited the gay beach and just get a general feel for the area. I booked the Tiffany Cabernet show for the evening. This show I truly enjoyed. The musical numbers were great. The outfits amazing, and the giant led screens that cover the entire back of the stage really immerse you into the performances. Was mostly a Chinese audience and everyone really enjoyed the show. I did end up taking pictures with a lot of the cast after its 100 baht per performer. The lip syncing was great here. 
     
    In the evening I went to m2m bar for the cabaret show, this show is really well choreographed. The lead boy is really good looking, I have seen him in videos and got lucky as he had just returned to the show after a 3 month trip in France. I got there just before the show was about to start and it was empty, however after 5-10 minutes the bar filled out with people arriving for the show. 
     
    after the show I went on Grindr and a boy messaged me who turns out was a Massage boy from a massage shop two doors down from agate. I decided to do massage at shop with him. We had a great time massage+ was 1200 all in. I had a great time however he kept pushing to massage in my room next time, still not sure why. 
     
    Next I went to Koh larn, I booked a tour which included speedboat transfer, sea walking, snorkelling,  couple hours on the beach and lunch. All in was 1600 which I felt was quite fair, I’m sure if you looked around you could get cheaper. The sea walking was really fun and is something I would likely do again. 
     
    after I got back I was tired and basically just slept the massage boy from the previous day messaged me again saying he wanted to see me again, I had a great time so I decided to:meet up:with him again for another good time. 
     
    will continue in a bit, just have to move laundry to dryer. 
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    sudoxi got a reaction from jimmie50 in Bangkok trip report - 2 visit   
    Website was down when I was researching them, they are still operational. 
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    sudoxi got a reaction from Enchanted_Elixir in Bangkok trip report - 2 visit   
    Quick Update. I tried TongTong. Good recommendations, While he was not as strong as Previous masseuse he made up for it by using his body, knees, elbows to apply strong pressure. I tried the Body Scrub & Massage. I was a little sceptical because they don't use a shower table but I enjoyed it and he kept it fun throughout. I was quoted same Min tip from both Masseuse for B2B so maybe its standard here. While previous masseuse didn't pressure me for Review tonguing did, even asking if I already left review and could update date & with his name. So I guess they still rely on reviews for rankings. Just a quick update I as I was responding to a DM. 
     
     
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    sudoxi got a reaction from Ruthrieston in Bangkok trip report - 2 visit   
    This is my second visit to bangkok. I first stayed at pattaya for a week now I am in Bangkok for 2
    i am staying at the quarter saladaeng. I liked the Furama silom last year and would have booked again this year however I stayed in an executive club suite last year and the price has now doubled. However I am now staying here at the quarter in a premier room and it’s just as comfortable. Shower has great water pressure and hot water, have a full kitchen so I can utilize fridge and microwave, doubt I will be doing any cooking. No issues with guests. They can walk right in with me without any issue. They have laundry machines on site 60 baht wash and 80 dry. However the dryer will need atleast two runs to dry your clothes. 
     
    breakfast here is so so I have only had it once. They do have an egg station and can make you eggs anyway you like. They have usual se breakfast options and limited western style options. However they have lots of fruit and an automatic espresso machine.  They also have a cafe on site which you get 10% off as a hotel guest which serves bagel sandwiches and drinks/smoothies. 
     
    they also offer a shuttle to and from the local bts stations. Lots of food vendors around the hotel and walking distance to Senso massage. 
     
    first day I went to arena massage, I tried this last year based on reading this forum and really liked it, I like the all in pricing and the guys are fun. The guy I choose was fun however he surprised me cause he was really a bottom only. I guess I should have asked. I will return here next week maybe but some other shops I’m starting to like aswell. 
     
    second day I hired a tour guide. We went to ancient city, some local street markets were I was the only foreigner which was great to experience. We also went to some malls. The new roof top garden at dust Thani. He showed me some local eats around my hotel. I’ve actually booked another trip for tomorrow with this guide. after this long day I was tired and just passed out for the night. 
     
    Next day I went to prestige massage, they take card at no additional charge, I paid for massage with card but tipped in cash. The shop looks very modern and clean. They tables have proper head rests, which I appreciate it, the masseuse actually had good technique. After flipping over he asked if I wanted extra service. It was quoted at 2k which seems like a lot however he was very cute and I couldn’t resist 😊. The massage was great and the extras too, I will repeat and feel it’s worth it for what I paid. 
     
    that night I strolled patpong market as they were setting up, I didn’t realize they setup each night last year I only visited during the night, I bought banana roti then went back to my hotel for a quick nap and to shower before heading out for the night. I decided to goto fresh boys as this was my favourite bar last year. I arrived in the middle of the first show during the gig cock parade. I was shocked and happy to see my fav boy from last year still there! He did not see me yet tho. I got seated and was watching the show as he was still performing in it. Then the boy lineup started and I was viewing who was still here and new. I recognized three guys from last year, however one boy I talked to told me he was here last year too. 
     
    then my heart saddened as the boy I wanted was going to sit with another couple.. he walked past me and smiled and lit up! He recognized me from last year which made me have all kinds of feelings  I was sad but I was thinking maybe I will ask a different boy to sit with me. I contemplated but waited. The next show was starting and he left the couple as he was performing in the show, the mamasan came to me before and I said the boy I was interested in was busy. While he was in the show towards the end mamasan came to me again, I told her who I was interested in and I said I think he’s getting taken by the other couple. She said Nono I will check. I said ok I will buy drink if he is available. The drink came right away while he was still performing. 
     
    after the show he arrived! He remembered me from last year even where I stayed. He’s 100% top but not straight and very affectionate. It could be an act, and I am fine with living in the delusional, atleast while on vacation . We chatted and he remembered our failed threesome last year. I told him I wouldn’t mind trying again but we need someone less shy. Right away his face lit up and he told me about two boys, however one in particular. He told me he wanted to fuck him bad, so I asked that boy to come for drink too. We discussed specifics and whether or not he was comfortable, he said he was and wanted to try. I told him I want for the next night as it’s my first night at bar, he was fine, my main boy was about to take part in the main show. I asked second boy to stay with me until show is over he was fine with that. At the end I thanked him and tipped him 500 and said I would likely see him tomorrow. Came back to hotel with first boy and had an amazing time. I love that it’s not mechanical with him. He wants to make sure you are enjoying too. He asked me about travels and cuddles with me a while afterwards as we talked and also discussed tomorrows events. 
     
    next day I did the tourist boat and went up the river to wat lang market, did some shopping, stopped at khoasan road which was different than last year I visited. It was full of stalls selling items last year it was pretty empty, maybe I went on an off day. I was gonna head to some more stops but was tired, sadly my body doesn’t want to sleep in so everyday I’m getting up 7-8 even tho I’m going to bed 3-4 am. I came back to hotel and took a nap. 
     
    night I went back to fresh boys. I called down main boy and he wanted me to call second boy right away, which I did. I immediately let papasan know I wanted both and he said wow both you take me too, haha. Main boy asked if he could do big cock show first then we can go. I said of course. After the three of us left back to the hotel, once again no issues with staff. We showered and it was a much more memorable experience than last years threesome. Third boy was really into it and it was very hot watching my main boy fuck the second boy. They were both so into it and really enjoyed it. Second boy said he was verse however I feel he leans more verse bottom. I would do a threesome again with this boy but I like the one and one. 
     
    I do need to check out some of the other bars, I tend to find something I like and stick with it but I really want to experience some other bars. Like the new atlas. 
     
    I was finally able to sleep in until 9:30 am! I laid around the hotel until around 12 I made an appointment at Ssense. I walked there from my hotel but google gave some weird directions however I eventually found it. This is another more upscale massage place. They provided cooling cloth and iced tea upon arrival. I was able to pay for massage with card with the basic 3% charge.  Another boy brought me up the stairs to the massage room which was clean and modern looking, this room also had a proper headrest. After showering the masseuse arrived. He was very strong. He had the right technique and worked the muscles properly. When I was getting this massage I didn’t think I was gonna get any extras because the massage was so good. I flipped over, he continued to massage then asked if I wanted extra service, he quoted me at 900 for b2b which I felt was a steal, I agreed, in the end I did tip him more tho. He did things that felt like, but without penetration. It was very sensual and turned me on a lot. One thing that happened was we finished early about 10 minutes, I know other places may continue massage but he didn’t, I wasn’t upset by it, however he had to phone downstairs to reception and let them know and then he out me on the phone and asked me if everything was alright, this was a bit awkward however I guess they value reviews cause they pushed me to write a review.
     
    I came back to the hotel and did some laundry and relaxed, I wrote my pattaya report. 
     
    I already told my boy from fresh boys I was taking a break tonight and would likely see him on Friday, which I will. After my laundry later in the evening I decided to try another massage place which is close to my hotel and Ssense called the prince massage, this is another all in pricing venue. I didn’t go here last year because I confused it with prime massage, which I believe is a strictly professional location. 
     
    I arrived at Prince massage around 7:30 pm, there was three other guys sitting in chairs looking at the guys behind the glass who all lined up showing off to get chosen, now I like this and I hate this. I love that I can pick exact boy I want however I feel bad not picking a boy who really wants to be picked. Nearly all of them shirtless. There was 3-4 guys who stood out to me and I ended up picking one shirtless boy who kept smiling at me. I choose a deluxe room, however I think I ended up with a vip room cause it had a jacuzzi in it. This is all in pricing so I paid 2k for the room and 2k for the tip which is on the higher end for 90 minutes. The room has a large bed, no proper massage table, but I guess we are not there for that anyway. 
     
    the boy was strong tho, the massage was decent, not as good as Ssense but I would repeat. The extras where fine, he asked me do you want to top or bottom? I feel like this boy was more a bottom but h topped just fine. I asked the papasan for top and he told me /they all top/ which I think is theoretically true but I feel like I need to be more specific next time. He ensured we used the entire time. During the massage it started to downpour outside and you can hear it through the walls, the boy was very concerned about me leaving in the rain because it’s heavy rain, it wasn’t that bad and I walked to the street to get some food, heading back to:hotel to rest for the next day, 
     
    Tonight I’m going back to fresh boys first. I wanted to off my boy and we were going to goto that new gogo GASS BKK on the second floor above white rabbit but I don’t think it’s what I thought it was. I checked their facebook it appears just to be a dance bar with gogo boys. Can anyone confirm? Instead I think I’m gonna ask him if he is fine going to circus to watch the drag show, but yet again I don’t know if they still have a 11 pm show. So I guess we will see what happens tonight. 
     
    tomorrow I head off to the train market and some local villages on a tour. I will write more as it happens and answer any questions, 
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    sudoxi got a reaction from BL8gPt in First time Pattaya report   
    I read a lot of reviews and compiled a list of various services. 
     
    https://www.thelimopattaya.com/rates/
    https://mikepattayataxi.com/rate-of-service/
    https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com
    https://www.pattaya4leisure.com/#booking
    https://www.flintstonespattaya.com/flintstones-drivers.html
     
    however based on reviews here and other forums nams was the best choice for me. I liked the service Would use again and I would recommend to anyone. Both pickups were on time drive was smooth and comfortable. I believe I chose a sedan L 

    Soda was around 1500 baht all in. Massage + tip. 
     
    all the posted showtimes are accurate they may start 5-10 minutes late while they wait for audience. Candy boys show was the longest at nearly 2 hours. 
     
    I used pattaya city tour co Ltd for the colosseum show. Was 699 baht for gold seat. Tiffany was more expensive, different tour operator quoted me same price as Klook so I just booked with the tour operator. Was a vip diamond ticket for 2000 baht 
    make sure you leave early cause pattaya traffic will make you late. 
     
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    Next day I went to Khao Kheow Open Zoo I joined a tour group which I was told was a Russian tour but English would be fine, it was not 😅. Tour guide spoke a little English however a few of the Russians on the tour did speak English, I used translation app to translate most of the tour info. Everyone was friendly enough. In the end the made everyone goto one of their shops to try and get people to buy overpriced items. The zoo was great. Got to see all the exhibits and everyone had a lot of fun. 

    Throughout the day the massage boy from Grindr kept messaging me, getting really needy. The bad thing was Every time I walked out of my hotel I walked by him at this massage shop and just waved and kept walking. I decided to goto M Bar to see what it was all about. However shows they on were uninteresting to me and it seems like this bar is mostly just to get the boys to sit with you and have a little fun on the couches. One boy came over asked me where I was from then said “ok tip for me” was kind of off putting, I wasn’t really interested in any as they look a bit too young and twinky for me, so I paid my bill and left. 
     
    I decided to head down to an actual gogo bar which was X-Boys. The show was fun they had their penis show where they used themselves to hit a golf ball into a hole which was fun. There was a live sex show, and a lot of dancing. It felt a bit more raunchier however the guys onstage seemed to be really into it and having a lot of fun. I didn’t enquire for off prices as I was a bit tired and wasn’t going to off anyone. I told mamasan I would be back another night. 
     
    when I got back I walked past soda massage and decided to get a massage with another boy. Went through the same motions this time not was top only we still had fun and for same price, no need to negotiate. 
     
    Friday I had lunch at buenos, had great food and a great margarita. I would definitely recommend if you are feeling like some Mexican food. 
    Tonight I decided to goto the venue for the Friday night sexy show, they have a lot of drag performers/lady boys they also have their sexy show with boys in tight fitting underwear/nearly nothing coming around for tips. I tipped one boy and he directed my hands into his pants. I would recommend this show but it wasn’t as good as the m2m bar show. Was a lot of interaction with the audience and everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves. However the bar was only 1/2 full. 
     
    after the show I checked Grindr and saw the massage boy messaging me again. I ignored. This time he told me how he has no room, needs money, etc etc. this time I decided to block him even tho I knew I would see him as I walked past. I likely would have seen him another time if he wasn’t so needy as I did enjoy having fun with him. 
     
    I message a boy who was on the Twunkier side on Grindr he advertised as massage boy. His shop was directly next to the agate, room was on top floor and had shower within. 300 for massage and 1000 tip for everything. Was well worth it. He performed well and knew what was up from the beginning, I enjoyed the massage as he was a bit stronger and he didn’t skimp on the extras.
     
    last day I decided to goto the colosseum show. I booked ticket with tour company for 1/2 the price everywhere else. Had great seats. I really did enjoy the show as did everyone else, the audience was mostly Chinese and they all came in groups by tour bus. The only thing I didn’t like was that some of the lady boys/queens  did not know the lyrics. However the visuals and the dance numbers made up for it. I would see both this and Tiffany again in the future. 
    after the show I came back and rested for a while then I decided to goto candy boys show, I wanted to goto this earlier in the week however they are not open every day. The seating for this show is more intimate as it’s couches however they are closer together so performers cannot walk Through easily to collect tips. This show had a live singer! It was great to watch him sing. I enjoyed the acts the only thing is between each act they play the same melody which gets kind of annoying. The performers were great and interacted with everyone. They had one cute dancer that I would definitely off. Not sure if it’s possible, I am too shy to ask if it’s not upfront. I would go back to:this show again. 
     
    after I decided to go back down to the gogo bars, I walked around however no shows were starting so i walked by a gogo bar called dreamboys however there is no show. The boys stand on stage.. that’s it.. felt kind of awkward. There was only one other person in the bar besides myself, one guy kept looking at me on stage and making it very obvious he wanted me to off him. I was interested in another guy too but he appeared bored and wasn’t looking. I decided to buy the guy making googly eyes at me a drink, we discussed fee. He asked 2500 I counted at 2000 which he accepted. He got dressed and left. I believe off fee here was 500. Caught a grab and headed back to hotel, he told me how it’s slower now, he use to dance as a gogo boy on walking street and make more per night, it’s what he likes to do but those bars have slowed down so he looked elsewhere. I forgot to mention when we stepped out of dreamsboys it’s directly across from xboys the mamasan was outside and she saw me and gave me the why you didn’t come back look. I was surprised she remembered I hid behind boy and she laughed. 
     
    boy and I had fun, I decided to tip him the 2500 he originally asked for cause he was great.
     
    i did a bit more shopping during the week, next time I think I would visit more gogo bars however I did like staying in Jomtien and I think I would again. I found nighboys club I didn’t go in because it was dead outside and kind of late. There are also a lot of boys around the bars in super town that appear to:be offable if you are braver than me to approach  .
     
    that was it for me in pattaya. I had a blast, I am in bangkok now and having a lot of fun. 
     

     
     
     
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    Last year was my first visit to thailand and I had a kit of fun so this year I decided to come a bit longer and do pattaya and bangkok. This report only focuses on pattaya. 
     
    I was a bit unsure if I wanted to take a taxi so I decided to hire a driver from nams lady drivers. Which was the right decision. They were waiting for me when I arrived and had a comfortable car waiting for me. Drive was pleasant. I would highly recommend. I also booked them for my transfer to bangkok, which was another great experience, 
    I booked the agate. I had a crystal pool room I believe, on the back side of the resort. Night time was very quiet no noise from the bars was heard. Staff were friendly. No issues with guests, able to come right up with me. 
     
    first day I stopped at soda massage. I picked a boy who was sitting down and off we went. Soda massage has a shared shower room, cabins are smaller but adequate with dim lights. You can however hear everything in the cabin as next to you, as I heard a guy negotiating a price with the boy he had. I didn’t negotiate any extras in the beginning. Massage was mostly light strokes after flipping boy gave me price however I’m sure he knew what price was negotiated next door cause he didn’t try to quote higher. I accepted. Surprisingly  he was verse and we had a fun time showered in the room with another guy showering aswell. 
     
    Back to my hotel for a quick nap to recover from my long flight. After I woke up I messaged a Thai guy on Grindr and had he come over for some fun. 
    I then headed over to the best bar for the show, this is a cabaret show, mostly drag queens lip syncing. This is my one gripe in these bars. The queens lip sync based on the sounds from the music, they do not know the English lyrics. I feel it would be much better if they lip synced to Thai songs. I highly doubt it bothers anyone else but it’s a little thing I notice, show was ok, I wasn’t really impressed. 
     
    next day I did some sight seeing and did some exploring, walked around the area I was staying, visited the gay beach and just get a general feel for the area. I booked the Tiffany Cabernet show for the evening. This show I truly enjoyed. The musical numbers were great. The outfits amazing, and the giant led screens that cover the entire back of the stage really immerse you into the performances. Was mostly a Chinese audience and everyone really enjoyed the show. I did end up taking pictures with a lot of the cast after its 100 baht per performer. The lip syncing was great here. 
     
    In the evening I went to m2m bar for the cabaret show, this show is really well choreographed. The lead boy is really good looking, I have seen him in videos and got lucky as he had just returned to the show after a 3 month trip in France. I got there just before the show was about to start and it was empty, however after 5-10 minutes the bar filled out with people arriving for the show. 
     
    after the show I went on Grindr and a boy messaged me who turns out was a Massage boy from a massage shop two doors down from agate. I decided to do massage at shop with him. We had a great time massage+ was 1200 all in. I had a great time however he kept pushing to massage in my room next time, still not sure why. 
     
    Next I went to Koh larn, I booked a tour which included speedboat transfer, sea walking, snorkelling,  couple hours on the beach and lunch. All in was 1600 which I felt was quite fair, I’m sure if you looked around you could get cheaper. The sea walking was really fun and is something I would likely do again. 
     
    after I got back I was tired and basically just slept the massage boy from the previous day messaged me again saying he wanted to see me again, I had a great time so I decided to:meet up:with him again for another good time. 
     
    will continue in a bit, just have to move laundry to dryer. 

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