Enchanted_Elixir

It was so nice to meet you again over a few weekends in Bangkok , and we will catch up again soon 🙂

Because Silom is business district with a lot of middle class workers, massage shops with extras can be there but they need to present a more respectable facade than is the case in Saphan Khwai. There are H shops in both Silom and Sukhumvit (Senso and Jey respectively) but they are fewer and more tucked away, than the sheer concentration of H shops at SK.

I also have good experiences of 4-hands from A&P. Yes, and that is the issue usually. Many places do offer it, but people may not be trained for it and chemistry between the masseurs may not be the best.

Some brown envelopes involved, no doubt 😉

It’s less about logic in the Western business sense and more about cultural legitimacy. Many of the “S” and “SS” places want to preserve the identity of being massage establishments first. That allows owners, staff and customers to participate in a shared understanding of what the business is, without anyone having to openly acknowledge anything beyond that. In Thailand, preserving appearances and allowing everyone to save face often matters just as much as the written rules. There is also a cultural distinction between the hard venues and the softer massage shops. They occupy different moral spaces in people’s minds, even if the boundaries occasionally blur in practice. Quite a few of the softer shops are owned or managed by women, who may be comfortable with a certain level of ambiguity but do not want their business identified with outright prostitution. Buddhist monastic discipline has also shaped the cultural landscape, although not always in straightforward ways. Thai society has inherited a long tradition of drawing subtle distinctions around sexuality, discretion and public propriety. Whether or not individuals cross those boundaries in private is almost beside the point. The important thing is that the establishment itself does not openly define itself that way. So the rule is not simply about preventing something from happening. It’s about preserving a social identity that everyone involved can comfortably live with.

Cry me a river.

Prestige massage is officially a soft place (S) as the owner does not allow anything more than a handjob being offered. That said some have gotten lucky there and received more. S places are usually found all over Bangkok.

If you’re looking for SS shops you got a lot of options. I like Ssense, one of my favourite shops. You also have Wabi Sabi in that area. If you want to go further out then TCS Spa in Ari for some good masseurs too. @12is12You are right about masseurs at certain shops often artificially keeping the massage and the afters separated. However, if the masseur knows you; I found that this is often not a problem once he knows what I like, and I have made it clear to him previously.

Hi, this experience can be a bit challenging to fulfill as a casual first time tourist without some local knowledge. Basically, gay massage shops in Bangkok come in three flavours: H (Hard), SS (super soft) and S (soft), depending on the type of service they offer. The shops in Saphan Khwai are all H, and quite upfront about it. However, since people go there for penetration activities, massage tends to be rudimentary at best, with some exceptions. At some of the SS shops in Silom massage is usually good to exceptional, but the shops might have strict limits on how far their masseurs can go with customers (there are exceptions here as well). What I am saying is that it can be difficult to find a provider that gives great massage and great sex, that is unless you got some local knowledge or are willing to try to apps for freelancers. So if you’re looking for a fab massage in a nice room that leads to sex, then try Prince Spa in Suan Phlu. You will choose your masseur from a lineup behind a glass wall, ask mamasan for which boy can do what (T/B) and which one can do massage well. Book a VIP room (they come with jacuzzis and spacious beds). If this is your first time in Bangkok, then try to stay in Silom. You can easily reach Suan Phlu and Saphan Khwai from there. Good luck!

There is nothing wrong about saving a few dollars, especially if you’re broke (or was it spelled «your»??).

Perhaps you can show some added value here by giving some advice. 65+ and chubby, you should be able to provide some advice to OP based on your own lived experience 😏

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Welcome to the forum. Where will you be staying in Bangkok, Silom or Sukhumvit or somewhere else? Distance matters for recommendations in Bangkok. Is there a particular reason you have picked out Stars massage and are you following any other spas?

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Age appropriate for you then. You can just chat about gout together 😂

Try to book a guide through Siam Roads!

His skin thanks him for that promise.

Yes, and with saggy arses just like you.

That used to be true. Not so much anymore, but you still find some there.

I am sorry to report that Side is now permanently closed.

Try out Side, BoyCamp and 1/0 Sauna.

You’re thinking about Moon, the gogo. You’re not the only one who knows him. Gass is a non-transactional, but intimate and fun place. Go there with a friend or two, but go there late. 11:30pm or later. The models are Gogos in the true sense of the word and they will dance and interact with the audience. In Dreamboys you sit and you drink, and maybe you off a model. At Gass you can dance and the the Gogos will dance with you and there will also be games where the some of the audience are invited to play with the Gogos. The models will also sometimes go around with a huge bottle of liquor to pour into your mouth or to lick sugar from their nipples. The crowd is different and the vibe is different. Gass and Dreamboys appeal to different demographics. Just to be extremely clear: you cannot off someone at Gass. It is not that type of bar.

This is not strictly an underwear only bar. The dress code for the first phase can wary according to the day of the week. It is usually no dress code or in the form of “wear harness, get one drink free” It is only in the later stages where people strip down to underwear or naked. The dress code is usually announced on their instagram page. It was extremely popular during Songkran. However, this is not a type bar that people on this forum frequent. Its existence however proves those people wrong who say that the gay scene in Bangkok is dying. It is not, it is changing.

I like their masseur Tan. He used to work in Bangkok. He can be found on X: Manop54k

Try Kaikan Onsen first, there is a greater range of body types there. The vibe at Krubb depends on which night you go.