When all done, should put it all in one post. So I can reference it when I need it.

Thanks all.

 

For the question of which boy i picked -- I know it seems strange but I don't feel comfortable naming names. This is because of just a general reluctance/privacy for the boy and because I think my experience with a particular boy might be the same OR very different from someone else's experience with the same boy. Sorry.

 

I am working on a "google maps" map that I can share and can certainly put things together in an orderly manner once the initial survey of shops is over. But, alas, I fear nothing I do will ever come near to the now-lost great works of Shaneless Mack, to whom I owe so much....

Who?

I have checked the website:-

 

"Outside : Total 2000-2600 B / 2 hrs

Minimum Tip (Soft) : 800 ฿ / 1 hr, 1,000฿ / 1.30 hrs, 1,500฿ / 2 hrs.

Minimum Tip (Hard) : 1,000฿ / 1 hr, 1,200฿ / 1.30 hrs, 1,700฿/ 2 hrs."

 

So for (HARD), 1,700 tip is for 2hrs. 1,200 tip for 90mins.

It is weird that they structure it like that. IT seems 90mins is the best option.

What, a hard massage is more than a soft massage?  Every time I go for a massage he asks do I like it hard or soft and I say soft. Am I misinterpreting the meaning of hard and soft??? 

wow i used to read all of shameless macks post

Thanks all.

 

For the question of which boy i picked -- I know it seems strange but I don't feel comfortable naming names. This is because of just a general reluctance/privacy for the boy and because I think my experience with a particular boy might be the same OR very different from someone else's experience with the same boy. Sorry.

 

nothing strange and no reason to be sorry. You tell us what you see fit and rest is up to you to reveal or hide. 

 

I usually name boys in my reports hoping that if I'm happy others will be too  so boy gets more business but it's just me.

 

You are right about different experiences with the same boy but this goes without saying, chemistry present or absent etc.

 

Sometimes even the same boy puts different performance on different nights, if you have good heart they my  be more adventurous and accomodating then on the first time. On another hand if you too good hearted they may take you for granted and try to slack on their "duties".

What, a hard massage is more than a soft massage?  Every time I go for a massage he asks do I like it hard or soft and I say soft. Am I misinterpreting the meaning of hard and soft??? 

yes and you know it very well

Who?

 

Shameless Mack, a blogger about South-East Asian gay venues and especially massage place, who suddenly went offline and nobody knows what happened to him.

 

Only fragments of his work remain, I collected them and put them here:

 

http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2013/10/shameless-mack-fragment-found.html

Shameless Mack was a great resource when I was first coming to Thailand. he did a great job presenting all the key data, including a nifty little way of showing roughly how many guys and roughly what body types a shop had. I recall he also had broken down the massage shops into certain overall types. I never fully understood the categories, but my focus is on the agreed full service shops. In years past I've had rollicking good times at the supposedly no-mischief spots like Indra or Prime, but now i don't want to have a negotiation in the middle of things.

I am working on a "google maps" map that I can share and can certainly put things together in an orderly manner once the initial survey of shops is over. But, alas, I fear nothing I do will ever come near to the now-lost great works of Shaneless Mack, to whom I owe so much....

 

You would be my HERO if you can do this "google map" thing with your trip reports.

For some years now I have been suggesting that all of the forums in Thailand (and this would be applicable for the rest of the world) to make the "Trip Reports" precious, as follows:

• Store them in their own section and make them searchable,
• Give them key word tags so that others can data mine the invaluable data contained witthin them to help users plan their own trips,
• Add GPS tags to them so that they can be displayed in a "google map" format with PINs where:
  • by placing the mouse over the PIN information about the trip report can be displayed,
  • by clicking on the PIN the Trip Report would be displayed - to the relevant section
• Allow for an option where the user can select the PINs on the google map that interest them to make a personalized planned trip that the user can use where the GPS coordinates would be available in the smartphone to keep the traveler on target and to keep them from getting lost.

 

Now that would be COOL!!!

 

here is an example of this technology at work (sorry the site is in German - it was the only site that I could find with a good example - an no I don't speak German) :

 

http://mundraub.org/map

What, a hard massage is more than a soft massage?  Every time I go for a massage he asks do I like it hard or soft and I say soft. Am I misinterpreting the meaning of hard and soft??? 

I am sure you know the meaning well.

 

But to be clear for those first-time readers/goers, I believe that the "Soft" & "Hard" words used for the minimum tips guidance is to indicate the type of happy endings (sex) for the 2nd part of the massage session i.e. "Softcore" or "Hardcore" version. Hardcore would refer to penetrative sex. This is not to be confused with the amount of pressure i.e. soft or hard, that you would prefer the masseur to exert on your body during the first part of the massage.

.... but now i don't want to have a negotiation in the middle of things.

you are right, this is surest thing to kill all fun. Only additional proposal I'd like to consider  would be if  I like  a boy and he  suggests he may visit me in my room  later on

Sh-less mack also reported on KUL, Manila, Jakarta and Thai towns like Pattaya and ChMai. Is by now pretty dated. Many of his reports are a bit abrieved-besides hat of christian, on the by now also museum-alike site: nickygaybangkok (other as nickygaypattaya this town is not updated at all) and even refers to him for some finds.

  Div.Madmana double khrap khun krap from me for this extensive reports and the clue/key to the new BodyCLub-will visit soon.

I wonder how things are going there DivineMadman?

Anyone knows which bar / club it is at Pattaya that has a breakdance performance? Can the breakdancers be offed? Saw them perform before and really liked a couple of them.

 

Does Centric Sea Pattaya allow guests to be brought to the room?

 

Thank you!!

Boyz Boyz Boyz and XBoys

 

Anything is possible but the chance of taking any of them home are slim and very high priced if you could persuade one of them.

I may be wrong but I don't recall any credible report from boards about successful off of one those boys. I like their performances on stage though.

Thank you firecat69 and vinapu!

 

Anyone knows if i stay at the condominium Centric Sea Patraya, will there be problem bringing boys back?

Hi guys

 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zkmDqbWFeRHQ.kSlnB4mYiLM4&usp=sharing

Here is a link to a work-in-progress google map I've been working on.  green=confirmed locations.  

 

 

Updates

 

S52.  http://www.thaimassageboy.com/S52%20Spa/boyplace.php?id=134  Line ID:  s52spa@bts-on nut   S52 is very easy to get too.  A 10 min or less walk from BTS On Nut station, in a nice townhouse.  There is a sign on the door, but it also has some gym equipment in the courtyard.  You pick from a tablet.  This is another smaller shop where there may be a few guys available or there may be just one.  So book ahead.  (Because you are picking from a picture regardless, not a problem for me.)  Easy to have a Line conversation with the shop if there are "who does what" questions.  I have found them very responsive.  My favorite guy from last year has moved on the Body Club, so I booked a true twink this time.  Shower alone before and after.  Each large room has attached bathroom with shower and a massage table (no face cutout) and a mat on the floor.  (I usually opt for the floor mat.)  Massage was in the sensual+ style and was very good, with plenty of attention to the neck, which so many guys seem to ignore.  Boy wore towel during massage and at start of afters, although it came off as the boy got more into the whole thing.  Happy ending was happy, mutual, if basic.   Too tiny dings - booked ahead, showed up on time still had a long wait for the boy to be ready and came up a bit short on time.  I'll be back but probably pick another boy to try out.  (One tiny advantage of picking off a tablet or booking ahead is that you don't have to face your previous masseur as you select someone else.)   All in all a very nice shop worth giving business to, and if you find a guy who rings your bell, it's just perfect for repeat visits.   Massages start at 1.5 hour.  Mine was 500 (but I think it should have been 600).  Minimum tip 1,000, so good on the value perspective.  

 

Men101.  http://www.men101massage.com   Line ID:  Men 101 Massage Boys     Men 101 is in Lad Prao, so a bit of a trek from the usual haunts.  I went in the late afternoon so I could go by canal boat - which I very much enjoy - to Wat Klang pier and then I walked 20 minutes to Soi 101, but there were plenty of moccys and taxis at the pier.  (You could also get there by combo of MRT or BTS and bus or taxi).  I was saving Men 101 as a special treat because I think they have some of the most drop-dead gorgeous guys of any shop, so perhaps my expectations were just too high.  For a first visit I usually just show up - which I did about 5:00.  You select from pictures on a phone.  I think I asked if all were gay, and I think the answer was yes, but not 100% sure.  (And in this case I think gay just means not mostly straight guys, like Prince.)  Manager had limited English and my Thai seemed to fail me, so when I tried to ask "Who is here now" to speed things up we would to just go back to the phone and flip through all these pictures of gorgeous guys and was told they would call who I wanted and he would be here in 10 minutes.  The guys rand from very early 20s to possibly early 30s, with a focus on model good looks and swimmer builds.  Made my selection and the call was made.  10 minutes turned out to be 10 minutes Thai-boy-standard time, i.e., 30 minutes or so.  Getting used to that by now - and of course an issue that can be completely eliminated by booking ahead.   The shop is nice Thai local and not glamorous.  Expect limited to non-existent english. Rooms have a table and a mat on the floor.  There is no shower.  (!)  Wash in the bathroom old-school, pouring room temp water over yourself.  Wash alone before and after.  When my guy did show up he was sporting a bit of facial hair as is now so common, which was a tiny disappointment.  If you are going to offer guys by picture, they should at least be updated to show that.  (I have come to accept that it is simply impossible for Thai's to take pictures without using the skin-whitening, blemish hiding, eye enlarging filters they love, but still....)  Having said all that, the boy was a delightful personable chap.  Massage was good sensual+ style, although I thought way way too much  time spent on calves.  Boy wore towel during massage and really no gratuitous body contact during massage.  After massage he matter of factly said "OK you want sex?"  Gotta love it.  For Men 101 I think necessary to book ahead, although later in the evening there may be more guys hanging out in the shop.  I will definitely be going back because there is one guy in the stable I simply must have (he wasn't available), and for the dream of him I will put up with the trek and the cold no-shower wash.  If you have no such obsession, maybe not worth the trouble.  1.5 hour massage 500 minimum tip 1,000  (I got a buy-5 get 1 free card, something that Baantewa also offers.)

 

Regards

Another update

 

Leo-Spa.  http://www.leo-spa.com  I visited the zoo and because I was over that part of town and the weather was nice I had a walk (i hr?) to Leo Spa.  Leo is a very nice little neighborhood massage shop that I went to few times last year when I was living in Ari.  In a perfect world we would all live in 'hoods that had places like this.  It is in a small townhouse and the google map on their website is accurate.  Easy by taxi and a nice walk (if you like walking) or moccy from Ari BTS. There are large signs for "Bangkok Spa" at the end of the side street Leo is on.  Leo is just a bit down the block on the right and there is a sign.  Whenever I walk in I always get the impression that the owners are a bit surprised to see a farang.  Still they are always welcoming and speak the minimum needed customer english.  You can book ahead or select from a tablet.  In total I think the shop has about 8-10 guys (including a freelancer), but at any given time the number available may be much more limited.  This time (around 5:00) there were 4 guys available, but I've been there when only 1 was available.  Most if not all of the guys are "both", so you can pick your guy knowing that role/position won't be a problem.  The website also indicates a guy's size, so you can base your decision on that too if you care.  (It also shows how matter-of-fact no-nonsense the shop is.  I picked an early-20's type.  With the exception of the free-lancer, the guys here tend to be good looking, maybe not models, guy next-door types early-to-mid 20s.  Not necessarily muscular.  English is sometimes ok.  The rooms are very nice.  One has it's own shower.  Another the shower is in the hall with the bathroom.   Shower alone before and after.  Massage on table (no face cut out)  Massage is very good in the sensual+ style.  Boy wore towel during massage but still lots of contact.  Towel came off for fun times, which were energetic and sincere.  Came up a bit short on time.  Well worth a visit.  Probably best to book ahead (phone numbers and a "contact" email form are on the website). but I don't really think you will be dissatisfied.  It's a very serene and civilized spot.  1.5 hour massage 800.  I asked and minimum tip is 1,000.  

 

Great  reporting, you are putting Shameless Mack to shame!

Thanks.  You are too kind.

I love your Google map with location PINs.

anyway to get your individual massage reviews to be embedded within the PIN popup that is displayed after touching the PIN?

thanks,

m.

Do you have HiClub in your list as well?

http://www.thaimassageboy.com/home/place.php?suk_id=129

Would be interested to read about it

I love your Google map with location PINs.

anyway to get your individual massage reviews to be embedded within the PIN popup that is displayed after touching the PIN?

thanks,

m.

Good idea.  I will try.  (Maybe an edited down version of the "review")  Thanks.