War in Ukraine Developments

[Moses]

Nobody likes Nazi here besides Nazi themselves. 

Before 2014, such people mostly either "accidentally died" or sat in prison. After the coup in Ukraine in 2014, they fled to Ukraine.

List of most known far right activists from Sankt-Petersburg:

Dmitry Bobrov. Leader of the organization "Schulz-88". Arrested in 2003. He was charged with creating an extremist community. In 2005, he was sentenced to 6 years in prison. Taking into account the time spent in pre-trial detention, he was released in 2009. He was twice sentenced to imprisonment under Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "incitement of hatred and enmity".

Dmitry Borovikov (Kisly). He was wanted in the "Mad Crowd" case. On May 18, 2006, he was killed during his arrest by police officers.

Alexey Voevodin (SVR). Leader of the "Combat Terrorist Organization" of Voevodin-Borovikov. He was also one of the leaders of the extremist community "Mad Crowd", was convicted on December 14, 2005 for participating in it. On June 14, 2011, the St. Petersburg City Court sentenced him to life imprisonment. He is the author of the text "My War", included in the Federal List of Extremist Materials under number 1159. On September 13, 2016, while in the Polar Owl colony, he killed a cellmate.

Ruslan Melnik. Dmitry Bobrov's right hand, after leaving "Schulz-88" he headed the group of ultra-right football hooligans "Mad Crowd". He was arrested in 2006. At the time of his arrest, he had already been on the international wanted list for several years on charges of creating an extremist community and inciting ethnic hatred. In February 2013, he was arrested for participating in a gang that robbed banks of more than 300 million rubles. In 2016, he was sentenced to 15 years in prison.

Alexey Vostroknutov (Alex). At the trial of the "Schulz-88" case, he was acquitted by the court due to lack of evidence. He died after falling from a roof on August 16, 2011 in St. Petersburg. He was buried covered with a flag with a swastika.

Taras Muzalev. He was arrested on October 29, 2007 for participating in organizing a terrorist act - an attempt to blow up the St. Petersburg "Rox Club" during the "Music of Streets" music festival on October 13, 2007, when a cloth bag with a homemade explosive device was thrown onto the stage during a concert of the Swedish rock band "Blisterhead". He was sentenced to 2.5 years in a general regime penal colony.

Vladimir Razhev. He died in an accident on September 13, 2012 in St. Petersburg.

Alexandra (nickname Dara) - creator and moderator of the fan site "Schulz-88" in 2004-2006. Died in April 2013 at the age of 29.

Andrey Malyugin - joined the gang of Borovikov and Voevodin, was acquitted by the jury. Subsequently sentenced to 12 years for the murder of a Korean.

[Tomtravel]

Bullshit. Putin mingles very happily with French and German far right. And with other European extremist parties.

[Moses]

double glitch

[Moses]

double glitch

[Moses]

double glitch

[Moses]

24 minutes ago, Tomtravel said:

because if Ukraine will flourish

It sounds very naive and stupid.

One of most corrupted countries in world. In 2021 Ukraine first time after coup got GDP which it already had in 2008 and in 2013.

[Moses]

4 minutes ago, Tomtravel said:

Putin mingles very happily with French and German far right. And with other European extremist parties.

Sure, why not? If it helps to make problems for his enemies.

[Tomtravel]

Social democrats, liberals are enemies? Well that was also the case with mr hitler.

[Moses]

15 minutes ago, Tomtravel said:

Social democrats, liberals are enemies

Nobody cares about their political views. Putin cares about unfriendly actions. So makes problems for unfriendly govts. Fico in Slovakia is also Social democrat and has no problems with Russia and Putin.

"Social democrats" label do not grants indulge, you know?

[Moses]

By the way: Ukraine just shoot own leg - it bombed and destroyed tonight oil pipeline "Friendship" by which Slovakia and Hungary received about 80% of oil, and that oil was exemption from EU and  US sanctions because it is vital for these countries. 

Since now Ukraine may forget about membership in EU and NATO - Slovakia and Hungary will veto it.

[Tomtravel]

Ukraine foreign minister appropriately replied few days ago that Hungary can adress its pipeline concerns to his buddies in Moscow.

Without war with Russia that would not happened.

[Moses]

1 minute ago, Tomtravel said:

Without war with Russia that would not happened.

Without coup in 2014 war would not happened.

So, now you know source of all problems - inspired by West nationalistic coup in Kiev.

[Tomtravel]

The problem is Putin who dreams about USSR. Lavrov reminded us few days ago.  Its a sick dream but thats how it is now.

[Moses]

7 minutes ago, Tomtravel said:

The problem is Putin who dreams about USSR

USSR was country of one party. This party is forbidden in Russia. Also, here is forbidden by constitution any state ideology. So it is not possible to restore USSR.

USSR was county of soviets - collective decisions. But Putin isn't person who prefers collective decisions. So words "dreams about USSR" are as naive as are words about "flourish Ukraine". 

[Tomtravel]

Its Russian empire controlled from moscow. Emperor, gensec, putin - same thing.

[Moses]

1 minute ago, Tomtravel said:

Emperor, gensec, putin - same thing.

It makes sense for you to decide: either Putin dreams of the USSR and the power of the Soviets, as you claimed 5 minutes ago, or of the restoration of the Russian Empire.

Just for information, otherwise, maybe they forgot to tell you that it was the Soviets who destroyed the Russian Empire. And you lumped the Empire and the Soviets together and attributed it to Putin.

[floridarob]

Even if you dislike Kyiv’s policies, none of this meets the legal threshold for genocide—and the ICJ said so while ordering Russia to stop. Invading your neighbor, annexing territory, and shelling cities isn’t “protection”; it’s a textbook violation of the UN Charter.

Calling it justice doesn’t make it so—it just makes the propaganda louder.....and you repeating it, makes you an accomplice....☠️.

[Moses]

2 minutes ago, floridarob said:

ICJ

That IJC on which US yesterday announced sanctions?

Oh, sorry, it was ICC

😎

[Moses]

12 minutes ago, floridarob said:

it’s a textbook violation of the UN Charter

Israel has about 100+ IJC court decisions about Israeli actions. Do you want to discuss it now?

At past 50 years

1983 – Grenada → US invasion, overthrow of Marxist government.
1989 – Panama → US invasion, overthrow of Manuel Noriega.
1990 – Kuwait → Iraqi invasion, overthrow of Emir Jabir al-Sabah's government.
2001 – Afghanistan → US and allied invasion, overthrow of Taliban government.
2003 – Iraq → US and UK invasion, overthrow of Saddam Hussein's government.
2011 – Libya → NATO intervention supported rebellion, fall of Muammar Gaddafi's regime.

maybe you want to discuss these cases and "UN Charter"?

[floridarob]

1 minute ago, Moses said:

maybe you want to discuss these cases?

No — because unlike you, I don’t twist myself into knots defending invasions. You listed U.S. interventions as if that somehow excuses Russia’s war. It doesn’t. Wrong is wrong, no matter the flag. The difference is I can say Iraq was wrong, Libya was messy, Afghanistan went on too long — without needing to worship Washington. You, on the other hand, can’t bring yourself to admit even once that the Kremlin is guilty of naked aggression. That’s the difference between critical thinking and blind parroting..... or is it "Required" parroting Comrade 🥺

Even if every single Western intervention were illegal, that does not magically legalize Russia’s. International law doesn’t work like “if they break it, I can too.” By his logic, murder would be excusable if someone else murdered before....

These leaders should try a visit to Thailand or Brasil.... maybe they'd be more content 🤷‍♂️

[Moses]

31 minutes ago, floridarob said:

No — because unlike you, I don’t twist myself into knots defending invasions.

Me? Defending?

I'm simply showing that Russia does nothing that its current accusers haven't done. And that all the cries in Western propaganda demonizing Russia are just politics, because those who shout have repeatedly done what Russia is doing now and what all human civilization has been doing throughout its history.

Do you know, how many countries didn't participate in a single military conflict since signing of UN Charter? 5 (five) as per ChatGPT:

Iceland
Costa Rica
San Marino
Vatican
Liechtenstein

War is not a crime, but an extreme political measure, common to all states on this planet. And fact that Russia has been trying to solve the problem peacefully for 8 years - through diplomacy and treaties - says a lot "pro" Russia.

And good-natured ponies galloping across a rainbow are just fantasy.

[unicorn]

On 8/21/2025 at 1:25 AM, Moses said:

You have to read Ukrainian sources, for example censor.net - far right Ukrainian site... there are almost daily reports

 

and now he has 4%

Wow. There are no depths of lying to which you won't stoop. How can you have so little shame? How can you sleep at night? No conscience? This comes from the very source you quoted:

https://english.nv.ua/nation/zelenskyy-leads-in-first-round-vote-but-zaluzhnyi-would-win-runoff-poll-50525230.html

"...If Ukraine’s presidential election were held today, 30.9% of decided voters would back incumbent President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, while former Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Valerii Zaluzhnyi would come in second with 27.7%, new poll suggests...". 

There is the perfect word for people like you in Spanish: sinvergüenza (meaning shameless scoundrel). 

 

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, Moses said:

Sure, why not? If it helps to make problems for his enemies.

enemies which he created. 

I often disagree with you but I'm grateful for your posts which are  bringing a lot of nostalgia  for my younger years when I was listening to , what it seems , the same propaganda bullshit Russia's state if feeding it's citizens now . It's nice to feel 20 again from time to time . 

I don't agree with your narratives but rest assured and sleep well , at least I know where all that is coming from

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, Moses said:

 

Since now Ukraine may forget about membership in EU and NATO - Slovakia and Hungary will veto it.

That's Slovakia and Hungary , not USA and UK nor Germany and France. Small countries have their say but only as long as  biggies are prepared to listen and citizenry supports their leaders antics.

 

6 hours ago, Moses said:

USSR was country of one party. This party is forbidden in Russia. Also, here is forbidden by constitution any state ideology.

 you guys have such system that constitution may be changed overnight when need arises . And then again 2 days later. And approved in the referendum week later with 96.34% of vote . Since when people in power there feel restrained by constitutional niceties ?

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, Moses said:

- says a lot "pro" Russia.

 

there's nothing pro Russia going there. Country is naked aggressor which miscalculated war aims, hoped for few days of conflict and is tangled in war it did not need not want neither knows how to finish it.