PeterRS Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM To some, this will seem a somewhat petty reason to engage in a global conflict. But this involves NATO. All countries that signed up for NATO membership agree on Article 5. This is a core principle of NATO membership and it involves collective defence. It states quite simply “The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. At approx. 1:30 pm on 9 September, 19 Russian made kamikaze drones entered Polish airspace after being launched from the Russian Federation. At least four were shot down in Polish territory as a result of which four Polish airports had to be closed including the main one serving Warsaw. Wreckage of the remaining drones were stewn across the Polish countryside, smashing into homes and damaging cars. The Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has stated - "This situation brings us the closest we have been to open conflict since World War Two" The BBC reported this is the first time Russian drones have been downed over NATO territory since Moscow's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. Russia's defence ministry said there had been "no plans" to target facilities on Polish soil. What? No plans? Are their drones so incredibly inefficient that all 19 effectively misfired? Belarus, a close Russian ally, claimed the drones entered Polish airspace accidentally after their navigation systems were jammed. Poland is to the west of both Ukraine and Belarus. Why Russia would have fired kamikaze drones so close to Polish airspace is not known. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2enwk1l9e1t Quote
Members unicorn Posted yesterday at 07:21 AM Members Posted yesterday at 07:21 AM Well, if Putin is stupid enough to provoke a war with NATO, I would think that even most of his CSTO "partners" would tell him to fuck off, except maybe Belarus. It wouldn't be WW-III. It would be the brief war of NATO versus the country formerly known as the Russian Federation. I think this was probably just more evidence of incompetence on the part of Russia's military. But if Putin really intends to bring it on, he's cooked. I couldn't wait to see his ass finally arrested. Quote
Moses Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 18 hours ago, PeterRS said: At approx. 1:30 pm on 9 September, 19 Russian made kamikaze drones entered Polish airspace after being launched from the Russian Federation. At least four were shot down in Polish territory as a result of which four Polish airports had to be closed including the main one serving Warsaw. Wreckage of the remaining drones were stewn across the Polish countryside, smashing into homes and damaging cars. "Highly likely" Russian. In 2022 Poland already whined about "Russian" in hysteria, when two farmers were killed. Lately they found what it was Ukrainian. 18 hours ago, PeterRS said: into homes home... one... 18 hours ago, PeterRS said: so close to Polish airspace is not known. because close to the border are located bases of western weaponry supply and repair... week ago there was destroyed by hypersonic weapon American manufacturing plant, which made controllers for drones... Quote
PeterRS Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago @Moses once again with his his customary blah, bah blah when it comes to Central Europe and the unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine. Not worth the time to respond. In any case, @Moses has his own Board which has very few posters and even fewer subjects for discussion. Why does he not post there instead of boring readers here with his Russian propaganda? Quote
floridarob Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago You 2 should get married... Moses and unicorn 1 1 Quote
Moses Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, floridarob said: You 2 should get married... No, thanks. He is boring. 5 hours ago, PeterRS said: In any case, @Moses has his own Board which has very few posters and even fewer subjects for discussion. Why does he not post there instead of boring readers here with his Russian propaganda? Maybe because I do not allow politic on my forum? PeterPS is so desperate for attention that it ignores the forum rules and posts political topics in this section in order to get attention. Quote
Moses Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Back to topic: After emergency meeting of the UN Security Council, 46 countries out of 193 signed a statement that Russia was involved in the penetration of drones into Polish airspace. As we can see, Poland has no evidence of the Russian origin of the drones, otherwise this evidence would have been presented at the meeting. That is why only 1/4 of the countries that supported the statement for political reasons believed Poland. Full video of meeting https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k1y/k1ynx4wy8z The substantive part opens with the words of the UN Deputy Secretary: "We are discussing publicly available information, the UN cannot verify or confirm" (read: apart from Poland's words, we have no evidence), Quote
