Popular Post JimmyJoe Posted October 27 Popular Post Posted October 27 I visited Paradise Massage recently and wanted to share my experience, since we don’t see all that many massage shop reviews from Pattaya. The shop appears to be one of the few remaining gay massage places in Boyztown, and the facilities are nicer than many others I’ve seen in Pattaya. When I visited, there were around 12 boys on duty. I’m quite introverted, so simply stepping inside takes effort for me. I had hoped to chat briefly and get a sense of individual personalities, but the boys mostly stayed seated and let the manager handle the interaction. The manager was pleasant and explained the pricing. • Massage: ฿700 for 1-hour oil massage, pricey for Pattaya but worth it to me for en suite shower. • Tip for boy: Starting at ฿600 for kissing / general above-the-waist contact and hand job, as I was told by the manager. This was described as standard / expected. My immediate thought was, great the guys are instructed to kiss! Of the available boys, there was only one I was drawn to — slim, very cute, and as I would learn later, completely hairless. Thai. He’d been averting his gaze most of the time, certainly not beaming at me, as one would hope. But as he was the only candidate I was interested in, I chose to disregard that omen. The shop is very nicely decorated. The room was small but clean and also nicely decorated, with an en-suite shower and a proper massage table. A little worn, but still nicer than average for Pattaya. I showered alone as he disappeared to do the same, I suspect. The session itself was more rubbing than massage, which I expect in this type of shop. I liked that he placed his cock and balls on the soles of my feet during most of the leg rub and later placed them on my ass during back rub. Things shifted after the flip. I learned he did not kiss, nor did he want his face or hair touched (likely due to styling/makeup). When the boy won't kiss, my fallback is to kiss his face and neck a bit. This was barely tolerated. The atmosphere was flat, and there wasn’t much to do about it. I’d smiled at him several times to try to break the ice and make him feel more comfortable. He’d smile back, sort of. At this point we were lying uneasily, facing each other, he was wanking me. He asked me if I wanted to fuck him. I really didn’t feel like it as there was absolutely no chemistry at all and I didn’t have a good feeling about the encounter. I was trying to figure out what to do when I, probably misguidedly, blurted out “how much “. He gave a figure which, while not outlandish was still above what I’d usually consider. I was indecisive, since I really didn’t particularly want to fuck him at this point. To me it wasn’t worth haggling, which is pretty pointless anyway, counterproductive in the beast of times; and I also didn’t really want him enough to do much of anything more with him. He had turned out to be the unaffectionate, starfish that turns me off. It had only been about 30 min at this point and I’d had enough. I went back into the shower while he stood there. After shower I gave him double the stated minimum tip for soft and quietly, smilingly paid my bill to the reception desk and left. The boss sitting outside was clearly livid and glaring at the boy when he saw me leave early. Wondering WTF the boy might have done wrong, I think. There was nothing wrong with his service; we just didn’t connect. Overall Impression • Facilities: Very good for Pattaya. • Boy selection: Appeared limited for my taste at that time of day, but this can vary. • Staff / manager: Polite and straightforward. • Session: No issue technically — just no chemistry. Do I recommend it? Yes. The place is well-run and the facilities are some of the nicest in Pattaya. I might return in a month or two and try another time slot. BL8gPt, vinapu, a-447 and 6 others 7 1 1 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted October 27 Popular Post Posted October 27 I like fact that your not exactly thrilling experience did not cloud your judgement about the place. You adventure only confirms what I advocate from at least Napoleonic wars - engage only guys who are smiling or at least making an eye contact with you . Otherwise you risk wasting money, time or both JimmyJoe, floridarob, AndyUK and 3 others 6 Quote
Popular Post floridarob Posted October 27 Popular Post Posted October 27 2 hours ago, JimmyJoe said: After shower I gave him double the stated minimum tip for soft I wish people would stop doing this.....it only make them think it's ok to do a mediocre job at best and still get rewarded, in this case doubly rewarded.....where's the incentive for anyone to be good at what they do? You said it out loud too, imagine how many guys do that and say nothing out of embarrassment of basically being scammed and paying, after knowingly being scammed. splinter1949, iendo, BL8gPt and 3 others 6 Quote
JimmyJoe Posted October 27 Author Posted October 27 Quote I wish people would stop doing this..... I totally understand your point. And you're right. I was flustered though. And I guess I partly felt it was my "fault" as I had chosen a guy who had not shown any signs of being interested in me. That's what I get for not listening to Vinapu. AndyUK, floridarob and FunFifties 3 Quote
Members tm_nyc Posted October 27 Members Posted October 27 Back in December, 2023, shamelessmack had better luck at Paradise Spa in Boyztown: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2024/01/08/a-little-closer-to-paradise/ Quote
emiel1981 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 If you are still in Pattaya and don't mind having to take Bolt or Grab to try out another massage shop: Bliss Pattaya might be nice. The facilities look good, clean en modern. The boys in their line account are hot. But unfortunately I didn't read anybody from the forum going there yet. All info about location and contact details in this post: t0oL1 1 Quote
12is12 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 JJ, I second Floridarob's view; it has nothing to do with ur selection process. The guy gave a mediocre job; could have happened even if ur choice process was perfect. Not sure he should get even the minimum tip, let alone... Notwithstanding eye/smile contact: best to ask him what he does do and doesnt do, b4 making the deal. mauRICE and floridarob 2 Quote
ichigo Posted October 27 Posted October 27 I've been here twice - first time, really good. I asked the boy who accosted me outside if I can choose and who can bottom as I didn't feel like bottoming that day (he said all can) so I just chose him. He ended up sneakily sliding it in anyway and we had a great and versatile time. Came back a year later looking for the same guy but he had gone home so I chose another guy who was pleasant looking. Massage was a bit haphazard, afters were okay (he was 'top only'), so just had some oral fun (which pushed the tip into the 'hard' category) and we both came, but it wasn't the most satisfying session. I definitely would go back but would be a bit choosier next time. floridarob 1 Quote
vinapu Posted October 28 Posted October 28 21 hours ago, JimmyJoe said: That's what I get for not listening to Vinapu. you can do worse so cheer up floridarob 1 Quote
vinapu Posted October 28 Posted October 28 21 hours ago, floridarob said: I wish people would stop doing this..... you want us to stop feeling good by being generous in order for you to feel good by being scroogy ? Enchanted_Elixir 1 Quote
vinapu Posted October 28 Posted October 28 4 hours ago, ichigo said: I definitely would go back but would be a bit choosier next time. we can be choosier only to a degree as in reality we never know what we are buying ourselves into. Even boys previously rehearsed can be disappointing next time and other way around. Time to state for 128th time - my best ever session and second worst experience were with the same Tawan boy two trips apart. pong2 and ichigo 2 Quote
spoon Posted October 28 Posted October 28 22 hours ago, JimmyJoe said: I totally understand your point. And you're right. I was flustered though. And I guess I partly felt it was my "fault" as I had chosen a guy who had not shown any signs of being interested in me. That's what I get for not listening to Vinapu. Dont fret. Im a believer of second chance and if you are open to take him again, he will remember that you tip him well and most likely will perform much better to compensate. But then again, i will reserve this for those guys that i really like but our first encounter was not as good as i hope. Almost always, my second encounter was better, and many times they become my regular. U might caught him in his bad day, or he is also trying to learn what you like and not. They arent mind reader so first encounter can be awkward. The subsequent encounter can be more rewarding especially if you tip well the first time despite it being less than satisfying. JimmyJoe, t0oL1, vinapu and 1 other 4 Quote
iendo Posted October 28 Posted October 28 On 10/27/2025 at 5:16 AM, JimmyJoe said: I totally understand your point. And you're right. I was flustered though. And I guess I partly felt it was my "fault" as I had chosen a guy who had not shown any signs of being interested in me. That's what I get for not listening to Vinapu. I am not sure I understand any of this. What are the signs you are hoping for? Some people are shy and will not look at you no matter what. Others play the horny, in love, or what ever act they put on and the service can still be bad. Hit or miss...but one thing I would never do is blame myself. @vinapu we don't have to be cheap to expect to get what we pay for. If I am not happy with the service I am not paying double for the experience. All it does is reward bad behavior. and the next lucky guy will be treated the same. mauRICE, pong2, Lotusleaf and 1 other 3 1 Quote
floridarob Posted October 28 Posted October 28 1 hour ago, iendo said: @vinapu we don't have to be cheap to expect to get what we pay for. If I am not happy with the service I am not paying double for the experience. All it does is reward bad behavior. and the next lucky guy will be treated the same. This👆 Quote
vinapu Posted October 28 Posted October 28 10 hours ago, iendo said: I am not sure I understand any of this. What are the signs you are hoping for? Some people are shy and will not look at you no matter what. Others play the horny, in love, or what ever act they put on and the service can still be bad. Hit or miss...but one thing I would never do is blame myself. @vinapu we don't have to be cheap to expect to get what we pay for. If I am not happy with the service I am not paying double for the experience. All it does is reward bad behavior. and the next lucky guy will be treated the same. Its good to have self esteem but at times it may be our fault for encounter not going well - , hygiene problems , overly aggressive or self confident behavior , having bad reputation among boys for being violent or stingy, being too young or too old for boy's taste , just to name a few. I love those discussions about other people's money. It's payer and payer only who can reliably assess whether his money was or was not well spent, not even most sympathetic and well meaning bystanders and onlookers. If somebody's dream is to check whether that bulge in boys jeans is natural or silicon enhanced it's his free will to satisfy curiosity to get that boy naked, even at inflated cost. ( not my case but member's I was visiting bar with, 5 mins trip to bar toilet , inspection, 1000 baht changed hands, curiosity satisfied. Yes, I thought it's way too much where likely 200 would suffice but I could say both were happy. For curious minds, it was real but expected tip of an off quoted was too high even to my generous friend ) pong2 and Enchanted_Elixir 2 Quote
Popular Post iendo Posted October 28 Popular Post Posted October 28 35 minutes ago, vinapu said: Its good to have self esteem but at times it may be our fault for encounter not going well - , hygiene problems , overly aggressive or self confident behavior , having bad reputation among boys for being violent or stingy, being too young or too old for boy's taste , just to name a few. I love those discussions about other people's money. It's payer and payer only who can reliably assess whether his money was or was not well spent, not even most sympathetic and well meaning bystanders and onlookers. If somebody's dream is to check whether that bulge in boys jeans is natural or silicon enhanced it's his free will to satisfy curiosity to get that boy naked, even at inflated cost. ( not my case but member's I was visiting bar with, 5 mins trip to bar toilet , inspection, 1000 baht changed hands, curiosity satisfied. Yes, I thought it's way too much where likely 200 would suffice but I could say both were happy. For curious minds, it was real but expected tip of an off quoted was too high even to my generous friend ) I think people are too afraid about perception and want to be liked. If you would say, "well, the normal price is 600, this includes kissing etc...the boy didn't want to kiss and there was no chemistry, but I'll give him the 600 and walk away" I can get into that. Chalk it up as a lesson learned. But after such an experience, why would you pay double the normal price? That doesn't make sense to me at all. Doesn't that go for anything you buy in life? Name any situation where you would pay double after a dissatisfactory experience. Can we do what we want with our money? Yes, of course we can. But since this is an open forum, can't we have an opinion about it and say so? I find it interesting that throughout this thread you've freely offered advice about how to select boys and even characterized the opposing view as "scroogy," but when others share their perspective on tipping practices, suddenly it becomes "other people's money" and we're just bystanders who can't assess the situation. Seems like we should all be able to share our views on an open forum, including opinions on whether rewarding poor service helps or hurts everyone in the long run. mauRICE, pong2, siriusBE and 2 others 5 Quote
floridarob Posted October 29 Posted October 29 I’m all for generosity, but paying double when the guy doesn’t even deliver what was agreed isn’t generosity — it’s rewarding bad behavior. And then people wonder why the next one acts the same. Keep tipping double for half the effort — just don’t act surprised when “lazy and disinterested” becomes the new default 🤷♂️ iendo, pong2 and mauRICE 3 Quote
hanan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I have been only once. Very nice facilities and the boy I had was great. But what I didn't like was that I had to pay 1300 upfront at the desk right at the start. 700 for the shop and 600 for minimum tip. Paying everything upfront minimizes the incentive for the masseur and also opens up for potential disappointments in regarding to what service the 600 tip should contain. Quote
vinapu Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, hanan said: I have been only once. Very nice facilities and the boy I had was great. But what I didn't like was that I had to pay 1300 upfront at the desk right at the start. 700 for the shop and 600 for minimum tip. Paying everything upfront minimizes the incentive for the masseur and also opens up for potential disappointments in regarding to what service the 600 tip should contain. while you are right there's other side of coin - customers who after massage ++++ pretend they were under impression that massage fee incudes everything and refuse to pay tip. I heard it quite a few times in both Pattaya and Bangkok, most recently on my last trip in Aug. So unfortunately venue needs to take steps to shield boy's earnings bkkmfj2648 1 Quote
Travelingguy Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 600 Thai baht is $18. Not a very expensive lesson. It can be all overwhelming under your circumstances. I have a feeling that you are going to be more prepared for the next adventure. Have some fun. Quote