Members daydreamer Posted Friday at 06:09 PM Members Posted Friday at 06:09 PM "Colonized" refers to a territory, people, or place that has been taken over, settled, or subjected to control by a foreign nation, often through political, economic, or physical force. Thais are proud to say that their country is the only one in Southeast Asia that was never colonized. Unfortunately, it is being colonized today, not through battles with a foreign power, but by a shrewd and ruthless economic takeover by Chinese investors. We first heard of "zero dollar tours" being conducted in Thailand about 25 years ago, completely organized and run by Chinese companies, with the profits going to China, and not benefiting Thai owned businesses with even one baht per visitor. Now Chinese investors through Thai nominees have destroyed Thailand's coconut industry. The following excellent video from The Nation Thailand explains how Chinese are using Thai nominees to skirt Thai business laws, allowing foreign companies to force Thai owned ventures out of business, and then swoop in and purchase the assets for pennies on the dollar. [Although not specifically a gay topic, many of our forum members who live in or visit Thailand will likely find this video interesting, so I included in the gay Thailand forum.] TMax, vinapu and PeterRS 1 2 Quote
mima_bk Posted Friday at 07:43 PM Posted Friday at 07:43 PM It is interesting, but i think it would rather belong to the beer bar. but anyway. china is expanding it's influence all over south east asia. laos is basically a chinese vasall state. thailand may be moving slow on this, but they are moving steady. so it will repell this, as they did with chinese zero dollar tours. and they will eventually deal with indians sleeping on the beach in pattaya. TMax 1 Quote
PeterRS Posted yesterday at 01:55 AM Posted yesterday at 01:55 AM Let's note that it is not all one-way traffic - at least not yet. Yes, China is expanding its influence not only in Thailand but in most parts of the world. According to an article in The Nation in September 2024, though, from January to June that year Chinese nationals purchased 39.5% of all condo units transferred to foreigners in Bangkok. This represented 40.1% of the value of condo units sold. It did represent a downturn since in 2020 when the percentage of units transferred to Chinese owners was 61% according to the Bangkok Post. But then 2024 was when covid was slowly winding down. Bangkok developers made a considerable amount after building very small condo units of around 25-35 sq.m. This enabled Chinese to use the funds they could export annually from China by parking it in what was regarded as a safer country. The less good news for Thailand is that the Chinese are becoming fed up of Thailand as their preferred foreign tourist destination. It is now being overtaken by countries like Vietnam and South Korea. But the bureaucracy and paperwork make purchasing condos in those countries more complicated. So Thai developers with their tiny apartments may well find continuuing sales to Chinese. Let's also not forget that China is now one of the biggest investors in Thailand along with Japan. This graph from CEIC illustrates the level of Chinese investment in the country in the last reported 12 years - https://www.nationthailand.com/business/property/40041666 https://www.bangkokpost.com/property/2997234/chinese-condo-purchases-likely-depressed-this-year daydreamer and TMax 2 Quote
Members daydreamer Posted yesterday at 02:55 AM Author Members Posted yesterday at 02:55 AM Certainly China is one of the largest investors in Thailand, and it looks like Thailand is coming to the realization that some of that investment is to the detriment of Thai businesses, such as the coconut industry, highlighted in the video. Investing is one thing, but monopolizing entire industries through ruthless and unethical tactics is another issue, not unlike the robber barons that operated in the US during the late 19th century. One positive action was taken this past January 1st, when Thailand imposed a 10% duty on all imports valued at 1,500 baht or less, as Chinese companies such as Temu and Alibaba were squeezing small Thai companies, to the point they could no longer compete with the cheap imports that were flooding into the country. The Thai government is pushing back in some areas, but for some like the coconut farmers and processors, it looks like too little, too late. TMax and bkkmfj2648 2 Quote
Popular Post Keithambrose Posted 21 hours ago Popular Post Posted 21 hours ago 14 hours ago, mima_bk said: It is interesting, but i think it would rather belong to the beer bar. but anyway. china is expanding it's influence all over south east asia. laos is basically a chinese vasall state. thailand may be moving slow on this, but they are moving steady. so it will repell this, as they did with chinese zero dollar tours. and they will eventually deal with indians sleeping on the beach in pattaya. When I was in Siem Reap, travelling to the new, ludicrous, airport, built with Chinese money, the area even given a Chinese name, my driver said, "we are part of China now". It was not a compliment! daydreamer, vinapu, TMax and 2 others 5 Quote
vinapu Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 5 hours ago, Keithambrose said: When I was in Siem Reap, travelling to the new, ludicrous, airport, built with Chinese money, the area even given a Chinese name, my driver said, "we are part of China now". It was not a compliment! Interestingly but not coincidentally my driver taking me from that airport to the city had almost the same comment " we are Chinese colony now" jimmie50 and daydreamer 2 Quote
PeterRS Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago China has had major interests in Cambodia for centuries. They used the country as a buffer to the Vietnamese over whom they had ruled for a millenium and whom they basically hated. The latest border war between the countries took place as recently as Ferbuary 1979, although relations now are far improved. Quote
jason1975 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, PeterRS said: China has had major interests in Cambodia for centuries. They used the country as a buffer to the Vietnamese over whom they had ruled for a millenium and whom they basically hated. The latest border war between the countries took place as recently as Ferbuary 1979, although relations now are far improved. I remember there was a skirmish with fatalities between China and Vietnam in 1988 over some disputed islands. Quote
PeterRS Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Ownership of the Spratley Islands is disputed by several countries including China, Vietnam, The Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei. The islands are really not islands as such - more like ocean reefs, although China has built bases and outposts on several. But they are important both as major fishing grounds and more because of the reserves of oil and gas assumed to be below the surface. China's interest also arises because it is part of the shipping lane in the South China Sea with Taiwan at its north end. @jason1975 is correct that the last really major skirmish between China and Vietnam was in 1988 when 64 Vietnamese soldiers were killed. But occasional skirmishes still break out. The irony is that all the other countries are closer to the Islands with China being the furthest away. China's claim to them dates back to maps purported to have been drawn up 500 years ago, and also the 1945 Treaty at the end of the War in the Pacific which seems to have had a clause giving them to the government in Beijing. But since the Americans basically wrote that Treaty, it seems like this might be yet another case of American interference where it has only resulted in major non-American regional disputes. https://amti.csis.org/island-tracker/china/ Quote
kram987 Posted 39 minutes ago Posted 39 minutes ago On 4/20/2026 at 11:10 PM, mauRICE said: Save for insisting your partner wear a bodycam 24/7, I wonder how does one prove monogamy or fidelity. Sure, it is easy enough to say one is in a monogamous or faithful relationship but there is really no way of proving it, is there. I mean all it takes is twenty minutes for them to leave the house, fuck their lover around the corner and be back home for dinner. Okay, forty minutes if they share a beer and a somtam after. And sometimes they don't even have to leave the house! 😏 On 4/24/2026 at 6:55 PM, PeterRS said: Let's note that it is not all one-way traffic - at least not yet. Yes, China is expanding its influence not only in Thailand but in most parts of the world. According to an article in The Nation in September 2024, though, from January to June that year Chinese nationals purchased 39.5% of all condo units transferred to foreigners in Bangkok. This represented 40.1% of the value of condo units sold. It did represent a downturn since in 2020 when the percentage of units transferred to Chinese owners was 61% according to the Bangkok Post. But then 2024 was when covid was slowly winding down. Bangkok developers made a considerable amount after building very small condo units of around 25-35 sq.m. This enabled Chinese to use the funds they could export annually from China by parking it in what was regarded as a safer country. The less good news for Thailand is that the Chinese are becoming fed up of Thailand as their preferred foreign tourist destination. It is now being overtaken by countries like Vietnam and South Korea. But the bureaucracy and paperwork make purchasing condos in those countries more complicated. So Thai developers with their tiny apartments may well find continuuing sales to Chinese. Let's also not forget that China is now one of the biggest investors in Thailand along with Japan. This graph from CEIC illustrates the level of Chinese investment in the country in the last reported 12 years - https://www.nationthailand.com/business/property/40041666 https://www.bangkokpost.com/property/2997234/chinese-condo-purchases-likely-depressed-this-year Not to argue, I really don’t know enough about the subject, rather a question. You state that Chinese are 39.5 % of the foreign market for condo but 40.1% of the values. You then point out the tiny condo s being built for the. That would seam counter intuitive to me unless that was balanced by a decent size percentage being for penthouses and other luxury condos.? Quote