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    PopeFrancis reacted to Peter803 in Recent Trip Brazil - First Timer Perspective   
    Porto Alegre seems to have better chance of fun from your description.
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    PopeFrancis reacted to Ojibear in Recent Trip Brazil - First Timer Perspective   
    Sounds like a wild time.
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    PopeFrancis got a reaction from stripfan in Recent Trip Brazil - First Timer Perspective   
    Porto Alegre 2015
    I went to Porto Alegre at the end of 2015.
    It was my first time on the sauna scene - but I was familiar with the city / had a hire car / and know my way around... and I'd been reading this forum in the run up to my arrival.
    At Mezzaninu, I also had the problem of attracting attention! Having read this forum, I was expecting to be inundated with guys... But I, stupidly, maintained my usual "ice queen" attitude and they all stayed away!!! Eventually I was approached by a bearded Uruguayan guy in the sauna itself. He spoke some English, said he toured round SP, RDJ and POA saunas and offered to bottom for 100 RS. Given my desperation, we went to it. He sucked with a condom. And managed to bottom. I hated the beard.
    Spurred on by Tomcal's exploits... and not knowing whether I'd ever get the chance to do this again... in the following days I just went for it...
    All the guys who said they'd bottom managed to bottom.
    One guy really tried so hard to bottom but it was clearly really painful for him so I felt it best to stop.
    All the guys sucked without condoms.
    All the guys fucked with condoms.
    The guys shower and shower and shower... so you get the impression if there were any infections anywhere, they'd be soaped to death. I caught nothing.
    I never felt anyone was watching the clock or trying to bring things to a premature end.
    Usually at the end you'd lie on the bed and do some google translating.
    With the Tomcal stories in my head... I did the threesome... which was much more enjoyable since it seemed a lot more fun... the guys laughing, joking around and perhaps feeling more confident.
    I tried a foursome... though getting up from the table with three guys to head off to a room during some drag queen calling bingo numbers was probably not my best idea as she started shouting at me calling me names - the guys found it funny... The foursome was probably not a great idea... too much going on... and too many people waiting for direction!
    I stuck up a bit of a relationship with one of the guys (google translate)... went to bars, went to dinner... and when he was at the sauna, he'd direct anyone who was my type towards me.
    We actually got on really well... and he was making some effort to speak English (which he'd learned from video games!)... so when I'd done too much, I paid for him to go with a couple of lads he liked. He chose two guys he'd always fancied - one was an absolutely stunning top (whose wife thought he was just waitering at the sauna)... and we ended up in a sort of threesome... though to be fair I wasn't that interested in him... and allowed the top to grind my friend into the bed. I know some might think... What were you paying for that for?... but to be fair, it was fun... and fun listening to the guy tell me how he'd always fantasized for months about the straight guy!
    I paid for a top-only guy as well... for, I guess, "foreplay"... and again I didn't feel cheated... lots and lots of kissing and sucking... and google translating.
    I picked up guys at the after club - Bar Mix... usually go go dancers who were happy to come back to my hotel
    Then I'd drive to the after-after- club - Sexy Vicio - which is an absolute horrific dive near the bus station (a terrible area at night)... populated, I think, only by rentboys. Here one of the Bar Mix dancers would point guys in my direction... and we'd slink off to motels or back to my hotel.
    And it was here - Sexy Vicio - where someone offered TO PAY ME FOR SEX!!! And chased me round the club trying to get me to agree! Unbelievable.
    Everyone asked for 100 RS
    I probably would have asked for more!
    Porto Alegre - great guys! - and probably a smaller population of guys so scammers find it harder to survive.
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    PopeFrancis got a reaction from JKane in Recent Trip Brazil - First Timer Perspective   
    Porto Alegre 2015
    I went to Porto Alegre at the end of 2015.
    It was my first time on the sauna scene - but I was familiar with the city / had a hire car / and know my way around... and I'd been reading this forum in the run up to my arrival.
    At Mezzaninu, I also had the problem of attracting attention! Having read this forum, I was expecting to be inundated with guys... But I, stupidly, maintained my usual "ice queen" attitude and they all stayed away!!! Eventually I was approached by a bearded Uruguayan guy in the sauna itself. He spoke some English, said he toured round SP, RDJ and POA saunas and offered to bottom for 100 RS. Given my desperation, we went to it. He sucked with a condom. And managed to bottom. I hated the beard.
    Spurred on by Tomcal's exploits... and not knowing whether I'd ever get the chance to do this again... in the following days I just went for it...
    All the guys who said they'd bottom managed to bottom.
    One guy really tried so hard to bottom but it was clearly really painful for him so I felt it best to stop.
    All the guys sucked without condoms.
    All the guys fucked with condoms.
    The guys shower and shower and shower... so you get the impression if there were any infections anywhere, they'd be soaped to death. I caught nothing.
    I never felt anyone was watching the clock or trying to bring things to a premature end.
    Usually at the end you'd lie on the bed and do some google translating.
    With the Tomcal stories in my head... I did the threesome... which was much more enjoyable since it seemed a lot more fun... the guys laughing, joking around and perhaps feeling more confident.
    I tried a foursome... though getting up from the table with three guys to head off to a room during some drag queen calling bingo numbers was probably not my best idea as she started shouting at me calling me names - the guys found it funny... The foursome was probably not a great idea... too much going on... and too many people waiting for direction!
    I stuck up a bit of a relationship with one of the guys (google translate)... went to bars, went to dinner... and when he was at the sauna, he'd direct anyone who was my type towards me.
    We actually got on really well... and he was making some effort to speak English (which he'd learned from video games!)... so when I'd done too much, I paid for him to go with a couple of lads he liked. He chose two guys he'd always fancied - one was an absolutely stunning top (whose wife thought he was just waitering at the sauna)... and we ended up in a sort of threesome... though to be fair I wasn't that interested in him... and allowed the top to grind my friend into the bed. I know some might think... What were you paying for that for?... but to be fair, it was fun... and fun listening to the guy tell me how he'd always fantasized for months about the straight guy!
    I paid for a top-only guy as well... for, I guess, "foreplay"... and again I didn't feel cheated... lots and lots of kissing and sucking... and google translating.
    I picked up guys at the after club - Bar Mix... usually go go dancers who were happy to come back to my hotel
    Then I'd drive to the after-after- club - Sexy Vicio - which is an absolute horrific dive near the bus station (a terrible area at night)... populated, I think, only by rentboys. Here one of the Bar Mix dancers would point guys in my direction... and we'd slink off to motels or back to my hotel.
    And it was here - Sexy Vicio - where someone offered TO PAY ME FOR SEX!!! And chased me round the club trying to get me to agree! Unbelievable.
    Everyone asked for 100 RS
    I probably would have asked for more!
    Porto Alegre - great guys! - and probably a smaller population of guys so scammers find it harder to survive.
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    PopeFrancis got a reaction from torogen in Recent Trip Brazil - First Timer Perspective   
    Porto Alegre 2015
    I went to Porto Alegre at the end of 2015.
    It was my first time on the sauna scene - but I was familiar with the city / had a hire car / and know my way around... and I'd been reading this forum in the run up to my arrival.
    At Mezzaninu, I also had the problem of attracting attention! Having read this forum, I was expecting to be inundated with guys... But I, stupidly, maintained my usual "ice queen" attitude and they all stayed away!!! Eventually I was approached by a bearded Uruguayan guy in the sauna itself. He spoke some English, said he toured round SP, RDJ and POA saunas and offered to bottom for 100 RS. Given my desperation, we went to it. He sucked with a condom. And managed to bottom. I hated the beard.
    Spurred on by Tomcal's exploits... and not knowing whether I'd ever get the chance to do this again... in the following days I just went for it...
    All the guys who said they'd bottom managed to bottom.
    One guy really tried so hard to bottom but it was clearly really painful for him so I felt it best to stop.
    All the guys sucked without condoms.
    All the guys fucked with condoms.
    The guys shower and shower and shower... so you get the impression if there were any infections anywhere, they'd be soaped to death. I caught nothing.
    I never felt anyone was watching the clock or trying to bring things to a premature end.
    Usually at the end you'd lie on the bed and do some google translating.
    With the Tomcal stories in my head... I did the threesome... which was much more enjoyable since it seemed a lot more fun... the guys laughing, joking around and perhaps feeling more confident.
    I tried a foursome... though getting up from the table with three guys to head off to a room during some drag queen calling bingo numbers was probably not my best idea as she started shouting at me calling me names - the guys found it funny... The foursome was probably not a great idea... too much going on... and too many people waiting for direction!
    I stuck up a bit of a relationship with one of the guys (google translate)... went to bars, went to dinner... and when he was at the sauna, he'd direct anyone who was my type towards me.
    We actually got on really well... and he was making some effort to speak English (which he'd learned from video games!)... so when I'd done too much, I paid for him to go with a couple of lads he liked. He chose two guys he'd always fancied - one was an absolutely stunning top (whose wife thought he was just waitering at the sauna)... and we ended up in a sort of threesome... though to be fair I wasn't that interested in him... and allowed the top to grind my friend into the bed. I know some might think... What were you paying for that for?... but to be fair, it was fun... and fun listening to the guy tell me how he'd always fantasized for months about the straight guy!
    I paid for a top-only guy as well... for, I guess, "foreplay"... and again I didn't feel cheated... lots and lots of kissing and sucking... and google translating.
    I picked up guys at the after club - Bar Mix... usually go go dancers who were happy to come back to my hotel
    Then I'd drive to the after-after- club - Sexy Vicio - which is an absolute horrific dive near the bus station (a terrible area at night)... populated, I think, only by rentboys. Here one of the Bar Mix dancers would point guys in my direction... and we'd slink off to motels or back to my hotel.
    And it was here - Sexy Vicio - where someone offered TO PAY ME FOR SEX!!! And chased me round the club trying to get me to agree! Unbelievable.
    Everyone asked for 100 RS
    I probably would have asked for more!
    Porto Alegre - great guys! - and probably a smaller population of guys so scammers find it harder to survive.
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    PopeFrancis got a reaction from TotallyOz in Recent Trip Brazil - First Timer Perspective   
    Porto Alegre 2015
    I went to Porto Alegre at the end of 2015.
    It was my first time on the sauna scene - but I was familiar with the city / had a hire car / and know my way around... and I'd been reading this forum in the run up to my arrival.
    At Mezzaninu, I also had the problem of attracting attention! Having read this forum, I was expecting to be inundated with guys... But I, stupidly, maintained my usual "ice queen" attitude and they all stayed away!!! Eventually I was approached by a bearded Uruguayan guy in the sauna itself. He spoke some English, said he toured round SP, RDJ and POA saunas and offered to bottom for 100 RS. Given my desperation, we went to it. He sucked with a condom. And managed to bottom. I hated the beard.
    Spurred on by Tomcal's exploits... and not knowing whether I'd ever get the chance to do this again... in the following days I just went for it...
    All the guys who said they'd bottom managed to bottom.
    One guy really tried so hard to bottom but it was clearly really painful for him so I felt it best to stop.
    All the guys sucked without condoms.
    All the guys fucked with condoms.
    The guys shower and shower and shower... so you get the impression if there were any infections anywhere, they'd be soaped to death. I caught nothing.
    I never felt anyone was watching the clock or trying to bring things to a premature end.
    Usually at the end you'd lie on the bed and do some google translating.
    With the Tomcal stories in my head... I did the threesome... which was much more enjoyable since it seemed a lot more fun... the guys laughing, joking around and perhaps feeling more confident.
    I tried a foursome... though getting up from the table with three guys to head off to a room during some drag queen calling bingo numbers was probably not my best idea as she started shouting at me calling me names - the guys found it funny... The foursome was probably not a great idea... too much going on... and too many people waiting for direction!
    I stuck up a bit of a relationship with one of the guys (google translate)... went to bars, went to dinner... and when he was at the sauna, he'd direct anyone who was my type towards me.
    We actually got on really well... and he was making some effort to speak English (which he'd learned from video games!)... so when I'd done too much, I paid for him to go with a couple of lads he liked. He chose two guys he'd always fancied - one was an absolutely stunning top (whose wife thought he was just waitering at the sauna)... and we ended up in a sort of threesome... though to be fair I wasn't that interested in him... and allowed the top to grind my friend into the bed. I know some might think... What were you paying for that for?... but to be fair, it was fun... and fun listening to the guy tell me how he'd always fantasized for months about the straight guy!
    I paid for a top-only guy as well... for, I guess, "foreplay"... and again I didn't feel cheated... lots and lots of kissing and sucking... and google translating.
    I picked up guys at the after club - Bar Mix... usually go go dancers who were happy to come back to my hotel
    Then I'd drive to the after-after- club - Sexy Vicio - which is an absolute horrific dive near the bus station (a terrible area at night)... populated, I think, only by rentboys. Here one of the Bar Mix dancers would point guys in my direction... and we'd slink off to motels or back to my hotel.
    And it was here - Sexy Vicio - where someone offered TO PAY ME FOR SEX!!! And chased me round the club trying to get me to agree! Unbelievable.
    Everyone asked for 100 RS
    I probably would have asked for more!
    Porto Alegre - great guys! - and probably a smaller population of guys so scammers find it harder to survive.
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    PopeFrancis got a reaction from MsGuy in Recent Trip Brazil - First Timer Perspective   
    Porto Alegre 2015
    I went to Porto Alegre at the end of 2015.
    It was my first time on the sauna scene - but I was familiar with the city / had a hire car / and know my way around... and I'd been reading this forum in the run up to my arrival.
    At Mezzaninu, I also had the problem of attracting attention! Having read this forum, I was expecting to be inundated with guys... But I, stupidly, maintained my usual "ice queen" attitude and they all stayed away!!! Eventually I was approached by a bearded Uruguayan guy in the sauna itself. He spoke some English, said he toured round SP, RDJ and POA saunas and offered to bottom for 100 RS. Given my desperation, we went to it. He sucked with a condom. And managed to bottom. I hated the beard.
    Spurred on by Tomcal's exploits... and not knowing whether I'd ever get the chance to do this again... in the following days I just went for it...
    All the guys who said they'd bottom managed to bottom.
    One guy really tried so hard to bottom but it was clearly really painful for him so I felt it best to stop.
    All the guys sucked without condoms.
    All the guys fucked with condoms.
    The guys shower and shower and shower... so you get the impression if there were any infections anywhere, they'd be soaped to death. I caught nothing.
    I never felt anyone was watching the clock or trying to bring things to a premature end.
    Usually at the end you'd lie on the bed and do some google translating.
    With the Tomcal stories in my head... I did the threesome... which was much more enjoyable since it seemed a lot more fun... the guys laughing, joking around and perhaps feeling more confident.
    I tried a foursome... though getting up from the table with three guys to head off to a room during some drag queen calling bingo numbers was probably not my best idea as she started shouting at me calling me names - the guys found it funny... The foursome was probably not a great idea... too much going on... and too many people waiting for direction!
    I stuck up a bit of a relationship with one of the guys (google translate)... went to bars, went to dinner... and when he was at the sauna, he'd direct anyone who was my type towards me.
    We actually got on really well... and he was making some effort to speak English (which he'd learned from video games!)... so when I'd done too much, I paid for him to go with a couple of lads he liked. He chose two guys he'd always fancied - one was an absolutely stunning top (whose wife thought he was just waitering at the sauna)... and we ended up in a sort of threesome... though to be fair I wasn't that interested in him... and allowed the top to grind my friend into the bed. I know some might think... What were you paying for that for?... but to be fair, it was fun... and fun listening to the guy tell me how he'd always fantasized for months about the straight guy!
    I paid for a top-only guy as well... for, I guess, "foreplay"... and again I didn't feel cheated... lots and lots of kissing and sucking... and google translating.
    I picked up guys at the after club - Bar Mix... usually go go dancers who were happy to come back to my hotel
    Then I'd drive to the after-after- club - Sexy Vicio - which is an absolute horrific dive near the bus station (a terrible area at night)... populated, I think, only by rentboys. Here one of the Bar Mix dancers would point guys in my direction... and we'd slink off to motels or back to my hotel.
    And it was here - Sexy Vicio - where someone offered TO PAY ME FOR SEX!!! And chased me round the club trying to get me to agree! Unbelievable.
    Everyone asked for 100 RS
    I probably would have asked for more!
    Porto Alegre - great guys! - and probably a smaller population of guys so scammers find it harder to survive.
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    PopeFrancis got a reaction from mvan1 in Recent Trip Brazil - First Timer Perspective   
    Porto Alegre 2015
    I went to Porto Alegre at the end of 2015.
    It was my first time on the sauna scene - but I was familiar with the city / had a hire car / and know my way around... and I'd been reading this forum in the run up to my arrival.
    At Mezzaninu, I also had the problem of attracting attention! Having read this forum, I was expecting to be inundated with guys... But I, stupidly, maintained my usual "ice queen" attitude and they all stayed away!!! Eventually I was approached by a bearded Uruguayan guy in the sauna itself. He spoke some English, said he toured round SP, RDJ and POA saunas and offered to bottom for 100 RS. Given my desperation, we went to it. He sucked with a condom. And managed to bottom. I hated the beard.
    Spurred on by Tomcal's exploits... and not knowing whether I'd ever get the chance to do this again... in the following days I just went for it...
    All the guys who said they'd bottom managed to bottom.
    One guy really tried so hard to bottom but it was clearly really painful for him so I felt it best to stop.
    All the guys sucked without condoms.
    All the guys fucked with condoms.
    The guys shower and shower and shower... so you get the impression if there were any infections anywhere, they'd be soaped to death. I caught nothing.
    I never felt anyone was watching the clock or trying to bring things to a premature end.
    Usually at the end you'd lie on the bed and do some google translating.
    With the Tomcal stories in my head... I did the threesome... which was much more enjoyable since it seemed a lot more fun... the guys laughing, joking around and perhaps feeling more confident.
    I tried a foursome... though getting up from the table with three guys to head off to a room during some drag queen calling bingo numbers was probably not my best idea as she started shouting at me calling me names - the guys found it funny... The foursome was probably not a great idea... too much going on... and too many people waiting for direction!
    I stuck up a bit of a relationship with one of the guys (google translate)... went to bars, went to dinner... and when he was at the sauna, he'd direct anyone who was my type towards me.
    We actually got on really well... and he was making some effort to speak English (which he'd learned from video games!)... so when I'd done too much, I paid for him to go with a couple of lads he liked. He chose two guys he'd always fancied - one was an absolutely stunning top (whose wife thought he was just waitering at the sauna)... and we ended up in a sort of threesome... though to be fair I wasn't that interested in him... and allowed the top to grind my friend into the bed. I know some might think... What were you paying for that for?... but to be fair, it was fun... and fun listening to the guy tell me how he'd always fantasized for months about the straight guy!
    I paid for a top-only guy as well... for, I guess, "foreplay"... and again I didn't feel cheated... lots and lots of kissing and sucking... and google translating.
    I picked up guys at the after club - Bar Mix... usually go go dancers who were happy to come back to my hotel
    Then I'd drive to the after-after- club - Sexy Vicio - which is an absolute horrific dive near the bus station (a terrible area at night)... populated, I think, only by rentboys. Here one of the Bar Mix dancers would point guys in my direction... and we'd slink off to motels or back to my hotel.
    And it was here - Sexy Vicio - where someone offered TO PAY ME FOR SEX!!! And chased me round the club trying to get me to agree! Unbelievable.
    Everyone asked for 100 RS
    I probably would have asked for more!
    Porto Alegre - great guys! - and probably a smaller population of guys so scammers find it harder to survive.
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    PopeFrancis reacted to pauleiro in Best & Worst days for saunas in Rio and Porto Alegre   
    I already posted this table in a different thread but thought it might be worthy to put it again in a separate thread so that more information can be added or additional comments can be made on the best and worst days of the saunas in Rio and Porto Alegre.
    From general comments, it seems that Meio Mundo on a Monday night, in particular at the beginning of a month, is a real MUST !

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    PopeFrancis got a reaction from dscrtsldnbi in Villa Gianni in London, UK   
    Not much happening at Villa Gianni

    I ring the bell and I’m swiftly ushered in. The door guy quickly runs through the set up “I will show you the boys… they can’t see you… ask me any questions…”. Through to the back and it’s basically a normal door with the whole central panel converted to a one way mirror.
    There are about 12 young men, most have their tops off or t-shirts raised up to display their abs. They have arranged themselves in a “V” shape so that you can see a bit of each one. The latin types stand out. They all stand motionless.
    “Are they tops or bottoms?” I ask.
    “They all do both…”, he responds, “…except the third from the left – he’s just a top”
    I tell him I’m looking for a bottom.
    I ask about the guy with sticky-out ears. He reminds me... he’s the top. Third from the left.
    As I’m not particularly tall, I choose the shortest guy. I’m now told he’s Spanish and speaks good English. I’ll call him Paulo.

    I’m then ushered into a room nearby and wait. It’s a small room. No wash basin or toilet. A small double bed, a chair. Clean. Mood lighting (tinfoil over the bulb). Door guy brings me a glass of water.

    About 5 minutes later Paulo arrives. He’s brought a bag. Don’t know why. We shake hands. He asks if I want a massage. No I don’t. He agrees they’re a waste of time.

    We sit on the bed and talk – about the place, the shifts and how he used to be a gymnast and now wants to be a personal trainer. He has to sit an exam. He lives in Hammersmith and shares a room with a friend. He likes working the evening shift because it allows him to go to the bank during the day. His body is, quite simply, stunning. His abdomen so defined, that it looks “knotted”. He tells me I don’t have to do anything I don’t want to do. And equally he won’t do anything he doesn’t want to do. He tells me most men ask for bareback sex – but he won’t do it. He briefly mentions that he’ll only suck with a condom. I think “ok”. We chat about the importance of staying safe.

    I tell him I like kissing and we go into a lot of kissing – the sort of kissing where he doesn’t move or open his lips. And it goes on. He undresses. Beautiful body. I’m caressing his body. We’re “kissing” (his version of it). At one point he yawns. I’m undressed. We’re wanking each other. At one point he may have licked my nipple. He rolls onto his back. I suck him. Now I’m thinking… he probably regards me as “unclean” or pox-ridden as I didn’t insist on putting a condom on him before I sucked him. He lies there. He does not reciprocate. I don’t really understand why. Surely that’s the natural progression in this sort of thing…?

    I roll him over and go to rim him. He tells me “not deep”. So I just kiss his backside. More wanking. He asks me if I want to come and tells me he would have to charge more if he comes because he won’t be able to work for a while after he comes. Half hearted kissing and wanking. We're chatting about how clients have previously promised him exotic trips, but it usually amounts to nothing. So now he doesn't believe anything clients promise him.

    At some point he’s telling me that he likes to do more intimate things with people who he sees regularly, people who come and see him each week (he’s only been in London for 10 days). I’m guessing he’d like me to sign up to that programme.

    The man knocks on the door. Our time is up. I pay Paulo the £90. He asks if I’m happy. As I’m British and don’t want to offend, I say yes.

    £90 for chatting, naked kissing and cuddling and half a hand job.

    There’s no fool like an old fool. And today I’m that fool.

    In the corridor, door guy asks if I was happy with the boy. Not wanting to advertise my naivety about what this service offers, I answer "yes". I feel tricked and cheated.

    Anyway, I’m hoping someone with more experience might be able to give me some guidance….

    I realise that Villa Gianni, when it had a working website, dressed itself up as some sort of introduction agency – but is that all I was getting? ...the opportunity to just meet a young man? ...and that I’d actually have to pay him more, on top of the £90, to get him to do anything?

    Is it because he was a muscle guy? Do they tend to regard themselves as worth more – and hence will do far less???

    I’ve read all about the ejaculation for pay issue in the Brazil forums, but does it apply in the UK? Would you pay someone more in the UK to ejaculate?

    With regard to Villa Gianni – is it more likely that the guy would ejaculate if you come late in the shift – say 4pm or 9pm?

    Whilst Villa Gianni is incredibly safe and convenient, there is no opportunity to ask a guy if he does anything beforehand – your choice is based entirely on looks and scant info from the door guy (who couldn’t even remember Paulo’s name).

    Is there a way of making sure something happens? When the guy eventually enters my room, should I present him with a list of what I want and suggest that he leaves if he’s not happy?

    I just don’t know. I must have skipped this lesson when they taught it at school…

    Any advice welcome…
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    PopeFrancis got a reaction from gap1972 in Dec 2015, Rio & São Paulo   
    I was in Porto Alegre at the end of November/early December
    I was always quoted 100 R$ in a sauna
    I was quoted 70 R$ and, on one occasion, 60 R$ on the street
    I did however tip them handsomely for good work - occ giving 200 or 300 R$
    I imagine the news got round as I recall one guy, who I was with, getting WhatsApp messages whilst we were together - I was described as the "gringo de Londres" - he said his friends were jealous!
    That said, no one quoted anything other than 100 R$
    The guy told me that they charge Brazilians 50 R$ ...and even then, clients often manage to hammer them down to 40 R$.
    I did go with one really beautiful guy. He quoted 100 R$. But once we were in the room, he said he'd only be "passivo" for 200 R$.
    He pulled the same trick again when he spent the night with me. We'd agreed 400 R$. But once we were in bed at my hotel, he starts google translating something along the lines of "I don't normally ejaculate for 400. But I will for 650!". Well I couldn't care less whether he ejaculates or not... but I did think - if this is how your business model, you need to see why it doesn't really work long term. I gave him the 650 R$. He messaged me a number of times telling me he'd be in the sauna again. I saw him there. I ignored him.
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    PopeFrancis got a reaction from mvan1 in Dec 2015, Rio & São Paulo   
    I was in Porto Alegre at the end of November/early December
    I was always quoted 100 R$ in a sauna
    I was quoted 70 R$ and, on one occasion, 60 R$ on the street
    I did however tip them handsomely for good work - occ giving 200 or 300 R$
    I imagine the news got round as I recall one guy, who I was with, getting WhatsApp messages whilst we were together - I was described as the "gringo de Londres" - he said his friends were jealous!
    That said, no one quoted anything other than 100 R$
    The guy told me that they charge Brazilians 50 R$ ...and even then, clients often manage to hammer them down to 40 R$.
    I did go with one really beautiful guy. He quoted 100 R$. But once we were in the room, he said he'd only be "passivo" for 200 R$.
    He pulled the same trick again when he spent the night with me. We'd agreed 400 R$. But once we were in bed at my hotel, he starts google translating something along the lines of "I don't normally ejaculate for 400. But I will for 650!". Well I couldn't care less whether he ejaculates or not... but I did think - if this is how your business model, you need to see why it doesn't really work long term. I gave him the 650 R$. He messaged me a number of times telling me he'd be in the sauna again. I saw him there. I ignored him.
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