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yeah, this is a hot point and i don,t know why. the cars are no more fragile there than here and we slam doors.... but I got warned by several guides about it... I tried hard not to. slowly learning...

what area of Medellin were you in for the second massage?

Both men look really hot! I only went with one "professional". he contacted me on grindr but sent me his mileroticos ad. Darker skinned, 9 inches, top. wanted 200cop, and was in walking distance (although, in the neighborhood I was in that might not have been a good idea at 7pm and again at 9 going home). He was great, friendly, smoked together, then ended up with 2 sessions very passionate (for another 150 COP). His info went with my stolen phone.... and I don't see him on Mileroticus anymore. give him a try and let us know.

When I first read this, I read 40,000 per day. and could not understand why you asked the question (40 COP/day ~ 10usd ) is essentially minimum wage for government employees and very fair. but 40/hr seems too much without some fringe benefits. (Siam Roads is 99$ for a full day) I offered $50 a day (24/7) with of course transportation, food expenses for my guide/companion. He was very happy with that. ( I know from offering others $30 USD a day was good enough). In the end, with bonus and gifts ended up at 250COP/day which included some days he did not work. The going rate the locals (non professional) charge each other for short time sex is ~40,000 (according to my guide). My lowest short time was 80COP plus taxi 100COP + 20cop tip for great performance or about 30usd. Most grindr short time wanted 120COP for foreigner plus taxi (I rarely negotiate). short time Street whores in Plaza Botero was 30 to 40cop (for women reported to me by an experienced sexpatriot).

Hmm, I was warned by the locals that the coffee in Colombia was shit. they said all the good stuff goes to export. I brought a pound and drip cup with me. Most little places had bad coffee. I did like Juan Valdez once I found it. I guess I need to keep looking. I did not think most steak (tough) or pizza (cracker crust) was good.... but I did find some good stuff before I left (in bogota). Mostly I thought the food was a weak point. The nearly complete lack of english was a difficulty despite google. I started to learn a little before I came but... Colombia would do well to work on that (particularly in airports and metro) to help build the tourist scene. I had only one bad rental who said he didn't want money ahead of time but then wanted 200usd. He followed me around the city for 2 hours. I finally got rid of him. I did get mugged at knife point at 4pm on a busy street in Bogota. there were plenty of people around (who yelled but did nothing). I fought the muggers, got knocked down and my cell phone flew out of my pocket, they got it and ran laughing. One of the attackers got kicked really good in the stomach as I was on my back. The police were uninterested and did not record or report it (despite help from my 2 local men). Clairo made if very hard to cancel the SIM and deactivate the IMEI numbers. My one local (in Medellin) got his phone taken in a snatch and grab. 5 guys. they did not run, but said get 200peso you can have it back. We went to police, they watched while we paid and got phone back. then approached them and got 100p from the perps. So some work needs to be done. Will I go again. yes. but Thailand (repeat) and Philippines(first time) will be first.

In Medellin and Bogota, sweating in hot dance clubs and no-one took their shirt off. In Bogota I gave my "date" 50 peso to take his off for an hour of dancing,.... lots of people stared and just a few other men shed their shirts...

When you find out, let us all know. especially the look like him and happy ending part. in my few travels to Thailand, I only went to one spa (banana near Nana plaza 2016). 20+ men, asked the host for a versatile man, 90 minutes session included a full flip-flop session. But I am uncertain from reading here if happy ending at many spas means JO or oral or full on sex..... or any of the former.

Thoughts and Prayers..... Darwin will take his toll...

Joizy I started out just being a lurker, reading. Here, on https://gaybuttonthai.com/index.php, and https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/forum.php. all three boards have similar traits of some cynical old members who are rough on each other and treat newbies almost as bad. I have a thick skin so... I don't really care, but it make the boards less usable particularly for new members. On the other side, without them sniping at each other, 75% of the content would be gone and the boards would probably die. I have commented it on it only to be told to man up. I appreciated your posts. don't stop.

I thought this article was pretty good to describe the different neighborhoods.... https://www.theunconventionalroute.com/best-neighborhoods-in-medellin/

I did Airbnb in Pattaya in 2016, Dubai 2020 and 2 in Colombia recently. I have been looking at them as a home base for a longer trip to Thailand (a place to leave most of my stuff if I do shorter trips to other locations over my 2 month stay). If you want cleaning, laundry, ask the host. most have a cleaner who will (for a fee) come in. In Pattaya (Talay 2A), I had them in once a week for 200b (that was 2016). the cleaner swapped sheets and towel and did dishes, mopped etc, about 1 hr in the apartment. Also, there was an inexpensive laundry service in the building (but I had my long-term take it where he knew for cheap). The Condo 24 hr "guard" would do the ID thing if you brought your guest over to his desk. For longer stays, I have seen the airbnb listing to say fee plus water and electric and mention unit cost. In Dubai they had full hotel like service every other day (it seemed to me more like a hotel or serviced apart). In Colombia, one did it for a small fee, the other wanted too much, so I paid a money boy extra to clean. Regards legality... my next door neighbor is doing it illegally. If no one complains to the local authorities, the owners have no problem. Don't know about guarded condos but it would seem to me if the people cause no problem it is not in the best interest to make problems for their owner/members.

I was in Medellin in march, I got a airbnb hostel like place up the street level train line (Cra 41 near train) for 7 days. The whole area around there is pretty rough at night, I did not feel safe at night even with the heavy police presence. I accidently discovered Plaza Botero area during the day, I was amazed. I never did see any males I could determine were hustlers, but I did see literally a hundred + female workers. I spent a couple afternoons exploring the area, but never talked to any locals. I explored wide during the day, maybe never realizing my danger. Later when I had moved la pueblo (holiday inn) I ran into a straight retired marine who winters in Medellin and is part of a group of men who meet everyday in the area. their goal is to sleep with as many street whores as possible. he had a by the week love hotel room he took them to (not where he slept). he said he did two to three a day at 10$ a fuck. He knew nothing about prep..... my local guide did not know the plaza area, and he was afraid of the area at night.

I like smaller men. Must start using saunas....

I was thinking the security aspect. I had not read about gay torture/murders before I went. All the men I had were obviously over 18. The hotels/airbnbs did not check, and I did not ask them to.

A little off topic. I was in Colombia Medellin and Bogota. Most rentmen did not seem to know about prep; and the few that did said it was too expensive to get it. No one I chatted with had ever said they were tested. All seemed to think they would not get it. Only 2 or 3 out of 15 said anything about a condom when we had sex. The bottoms were comfortable with me breeding them. The real professionals just ask for more money for Bareback. No free man hookup wanted a condom, top or bottom. I went tested clean to Colombia on prep and antibiotic prophylactic. I will get tested Thursday for my post visit.

I spent 35 days in Medellin and Bogota March and April. I mostly had a longterm companion. I was never asked for ID. some hotels/airbnbs I registered him. some I did not. I also had about 15 other men. no problems anywhere I was, but I did not ask them to check their id. in retrospect maybe not so safe. But most of my guests were during the day.....

When I explored, I did state I was not in Medellin yet but would be coming in early march. I wanted people interested to contact me. not me randomly hit up hundreds of people looking for one that might want to do what I was asking. (there were still many that did not read it before hitting me up. so I had a more detailed Spanish ad as stored text for immediate use when someone hit me up.) I am not a Grindr paid user, and maybe it behaves differently if you pay. But there are quite a few differences when you spoof, rather than visit or explore. I wanted to have arranged guide when I arrived. not start looking when I got there. They needed to see my ad. To each his own methods.

I'm an android user, and there are multiple android apps to spoof the GPS (although Grindr actvely tries to defeat them). You might try the info on https://drfone.wondershare.com/virtual-location/fake-gps-ios.html for Iphone. I spoofed GPS on grindr before I went to Medellin /Bogota, changed my profile to Spanish and indicated I was looking a paid companion who would be my 24 hr guide; hopefully someone who spoke some English. I received multiple offers for "longtime" companions. I settled on a beautiful 24 yro man who said he was trying to learn English (not really ). I met him the morning after I arrived in Medellin (no problems anywhere bringing back a companion as long as they are over 18 (with ID if they look young)), He was a pretty good companion (although we both got frustrated with google translate) and had fun touring and in bed. I was with him for ~30 days (although I had plenty of other hookups as well). I was his first foreigner and he wants me to come back and is happy if I share his info for other (nice) foreigners. He would love to find a sugar daddy, and treats you pretty damn good, being honest and loving. We are friends now and I will hook up with him again when I go again. If anyone wants more info on him, send me a private mail. I mean to write a review of my 35 days in Medellin and Bogota (march) but have yet to get it done.

I am in Medellin right now I just hired this man. Passionate top, nice tool. Will BB for extra money.

I was thinking of going.... try to funnel the money toward the people, not the government. Food , lodging, massage parlor...