[15M Massage Saphan Kwai]

On 6/16/2023 at 12:09 PM, reader said:

This shop is associated with 27M shop, also near Saphan Kwai BTS.

It’s very easy to reach. Take exit 3 and when you get to bottom of stairs walk less than 50 feet and turn left after passing 7-Eleven. Shop is on your right down short alley. Reception is on second floor and rooms on third and fourth (all stairs easily negotiable).

My first impression was that it was very clean and well maintained. I arrived without advance booking. Although they have scores of guys on website, I was shown only about 15 on a phone. Among them was one I’ve had my eye on for past few trips because he also appears on offerings of three other shops in area but was never available. Consequently I chose him. One hour oil 400.

Manager said he’d arrive in 10 minutes and led me to room and invited me to shower down the hall. Room was typical of area with mattress pad on floor and a security box with key for valuables. After shower I waited another 5 minutes before he announced himself. He proceeded to take long shower and we eventually began massage about 25 minutes after my arrival.

He began with towel wrapped around him and spent an inordinate amount of time on feet and legs. I finally told him to move on to my back. It’s been my experience that massages that concentrate on legs too long frequently prove less satisfying. 

Found myself beginning to lose interest. His technique was ok but the whole thing lacked any eroticism. The chemistry (for lack of better expression) was missing. I rolled over at this point, thanked him for massage and began to get up. It then struck him that we were less than half an hour into massage and it was coming to and an end. He reached for phone and rapidly began asking standard questions as the towel dropped away. Afters we’re offered but the moment had passed for me and I declined (only second time since precovid). He was pleasant enough fellow and we spent another five minutes with translated q and a. Then we showered together.

Minimum tip 800 and I gave him 1,000. Never tip less than that unless guy is total disaster.

Overall I recommend the shop. The less than satisfying massage can happen occasionally anywhere but fortunately they’re rare.

it was only shop I can recall that offered neither tea or water to customer.

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Had similar experience when I visited them on Sunday. Booked my appointment with a guy via Line and was confirmed within 5 mins. Took a ride there and that stretch of road was under construction with rubble and sand. The shop was on the right side of soi 27 and I believe there is a barber shop beside it (not sure if they are related). 

Paid 500 baht for the oil massage (not sure why I paid a 100 baht more lol) and was ushered upstairs to a room. Counter guy didn't ask me if I wanted a shower but it was okay since I showered before leaving the hotel. The boy came around 10 minutes later and asked to shower. The massage was pretty non-existent. He was just rubbing my back, my arms, then my thighs and calves lol. Asked a couple of simple questions like his nationality and age and could only make out that he is from Laos. He didn't get the question about the age though.

Was asked to turn over after 30 minutes into the massage and question was popped. Had to watch a straight video on his mobile to get hard. Not that I'm concerned because I have met several straight guys who needed straight porn to turn them on. After all the action, he just wrapped a towel around him and left the room to go shower while I was cleaning myself up lol. Purely business. 

I would just assume there was no chemistry between this us. Tipped him 1000 as quoted. Was offered a drink by the boy when I was waiting for my ride.

[Coffee Grinder Silom]

Just reached here to check out the cafe as well as the boys (and owner was there as well). Had a brief chat with the friendly boss. Nice cosy ambience. One of the boys was detailed enough to ask if I wanted normal sweetness. Thank goodness he asked because thais love sugar. I asked for less sweet and it turned out perfect. 😅

 

 

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@Deszz24 My reading of your posts tells me that your primary objective is to visit a Gogo bar, maybe see a performance and take a lad off. Because you just wrote "bar" in your posts, and even mentioned the thought of going as early as 5pm, you are getting replies that are unrelated to gogo bars. Regulars here on this forum can deduce what  kind of bar is being referred to in the replies (e.g. from references to Soi 4, beer bar, etc), but I don't know if you can.

Assuming that my reading of your primary intention is correct, there really is just one way to go about it, time-wise and action-wise. Gogo bars open a little after 9pm. There are hardly any customers until about 9:30 or 9:45pm. The shows usually start around 10:30 and finish around 11:15 or 11:30pm. Customer numbers peak during the show and melt away quite quickly after 11:30pm.

As a newbie, it may be best to time yourself to the busy period between 10 and 11:30. Otherwise, half the boys and all four mamasans will be targetting you. As Vinapu said, "it's not such great idea to come early as you may be accosted more often for lack of other victims while at show time bar is usually full and mamasans are busy dispensing drinks etc. "

Don't try to control or expect to control what the boy will or will not do in the room. Go with the flow, and understand that like everybody, they have their limits. Or they may say yes to something but do not deliver. It is a gamble. Even experienced members in this forum have disappointments. We should pay what we agreed even if we're disappointed and not try to insist on a discount. It's the risk we take. What we do instead is to pay more than agreed if we are happy with the service.

And something not mentioned so far: Bring plenty of small change when visitng gogo bars. Best would be to pay the bar tab with the exact amount and not with large bills.

 

Well, my supposed plan was to just have one or two drinks at the bar, see if I can spot any attractive guys working there and if there is chemistry, propose to off him for ST/LT depending. But I have read several posts about not offering LT for the first time just so to gauge how the boy fares for ST? I'm not that particularly keen on the performance because I did watch with friends in the past and it doesn't really interest me lol What I didn't get to do back then was to off a guy from the gogo bars lol

Will take note of the prime time which is supposedly the ideal time to get the least attention from the mama-sans (if I read that right).

About what the boys can do / will do, I feel that as long as they give their assurance that they will be able to commit to that act (kissing in my case), they should do their part. Otherwise, they could have just declined or said no when I asked if they could do it. 

And thanks for the tip about bringing smaller notes. I already made a mental note to break up my bigger ones and only use them at the bars 🤣

[Hotmale beer bar]

 

Dezz, I don't think there will be any action around the bars at 4 or 5. they usually open about 8. (except massage houses open all day).
Silom soi 4 opens about 5 but not really for staff for hire.
Good luck.
P.S. those pesky people are all mamasans, male or female (if you can tell the difference)

But from the OP, upstairs should be the place where the show goes on? And the ground floor is where people gather to chat and drinks? If so, I don't mind hanging out there for a start if there's even people for me to look in the evening. 

 

8pm is better time to chat up guys at bars to see whether they are keen to go off with you. They normally have their dinner at that time.

Hmm okay, maybe I need to think about the time to visit there as well. But I always thought it's more difficult to chat up with the boys when there are more people (customers) and also the loud music lol

[Hotmale beer bar]

 

Welcome to the forum.

You worry too much and read too much into what is said here. How one can pass by boy bar without being inclined to go in is beyond  me , I thought only aspiring lesbians would pass such an opportunity.

First, while some mamasans are pushy by far pushy ones are not majority and even those pushy are not going to wrestle or rape you. Tell them you are watching, you wait for friend who is supposed to join you  or do what I do with stony face, tell them "I like girls ", nobody will believe you but they should get a message which is subtle ' fuck off" signal.

When you will be there you may want to signalize it here on the forum , they may be members who will do community service and gladly accompany you on your virgin visit(s).

I wish I'd be in such a position, sigh.

at 4 or 5 in the evening bars are still closed with exception of Hot male Beer bar w visiting which is not a bad idea for people in your position as boys there are very friendly and THERE'S NO MAMASAN.

bars are usually opening between 8-9 and rarely are in full swing before 9.30. Actually i think for shy types  it's not such great idea to come early as you may be accosted more often for lack of other victims while at show time bar is usually full and mamasans are busy dispensing drinks etc. 

I found Thais pretty straightforward and those working in bars hear it all many times but good form would be to offer drink, be it bar boy , waiter or mamasan if you have hots for them . Most of staff will be on offer although waiters and mamasans most likely only after bar will close .

While sitting with you just ask they if they go with you 'are you going with me?" , if they say yes  ask them about what is important to you , top, bottom , kiss etc. Don't try to be too sophisticated because English is their 2nd or perhaps 4th language so your question should be straightforward.

Kissing question is somewhat important as some boys do everything but won't kiss for some reason so you don't want to for force yourself on them. I ask kissing question after agreement to go is made so they know it's not condition for an off.

If you have boy sitting with you and you decide not to off him for whatever reason make sure :

1/ not to keep him too long as he may lose other opportunities

2/ tip him for his time 100-200 depending of length of time.

Make sure you let us know  about you impressions after you finally arrive     

Thanks for taking the effort to type this lengthy advice 😅 I'm sure I'll bear some of these pointers in mind when I'm there. I'm just worried if I were to stay there with just a drink and not ordering more, they will keep coming up to me to get me to order more HAHAHA. I do want to take my time to let my gaze wander around the boys etc. And part of the reason for wanting to be there earlier before the show actually starts is 1) the cute ones might get snatched up fast 2) their attention will be mainly on me (assuming I'm one of the first few customers for the night LOL? Of course, like what some of you pointed out, those off-able boys may not be there yet but I'm actually open to any one that catches my eye, be it the servers, the cook etc HAHAHA

While I understand that English is not their main language, I do have google translate readily available. However, I did encounter one boy (from Grindr) who promised to kiss but when he turned up, gave half-hearted ones and left it at that. I'm a sucker for kisses. Which is why I'm not sure if they will deliver what they promise even if you ask them upfront. If they don't deliver, do we take a cut from the agreed price? Is that ethical? 

Once again, thank you for your inputs and I do hope I will find time to update here when I'm there. And if there are forumers out there who wants to have a drink when I'm there, we can always meet up  

[Hotmale beer bar]

Hello guys, have always lurked in these forums especially when I'm heading towards Bangkok. As it happens, I'm heading there again soon, early July actually.

 

I have passed by these bars / pubs but never have I once made my way into one of these mainly because I don't think I can handle pushy mama-sans / papa-sans. That being said, I wonder if the situation will be better prior to the show. Say, 4 or 5pm in the evening? I wonder how should I actually tell the waiters if I want to off them and how to ask them (without being offensive) how they fare in the room, e.g. do they kiss etc? 🤣

Would appreciate some tips especially for newbies like me who have never once entered these premises alone hahaha