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It is not that men in Medellin in are more handsome. It is that they are more available and that the market for sexual favors is better developed than in Cali, Bogota or Cartagena/Barranquilla. It would be like saying that the men of Rio or Sao Paolo are better looking than elsewhere in Brasil. The presence of the market attracts both buyers and sellers. Those with the best goods tend to migrate to where they can achieve the best prices. That said, the ethnic differences between different regions of Colombia can be profound. The coast, cartagena and barranquilla, is essentially Caribbean. Bogota is visibly more indigenous ethnically. Medellin has a bit more European ethnic character. And the sugar cane fields have made Cali the center of African ethnicity in Colombia.

i am talking to some students to be my guides. actually i have 2 for bogota and 2 for cartagena. none for medellin yet. it worked in brasil, hoefully it will work there. but you never know, before you are there..... grindr and hornet are options no 2. saunas are the last option, because i actually prefer semi profesionals, to those who are in business every day. but every country has its specifics. i know that....

bogota 8-12 january medellin 12-15 january cartagena 15-22 january

I've been to Bogota, Cali, Cartagena and Medellin..... only the latter I ran into that...my experience, doesn't mean you will have the same outcome, but 2 things in 1 visit was a bad ratio. Time passes and what seems like last year, might have been 3 yrs ago....so not sure exactly, I'd have to look at passport or pics to figure it out, lol

Interesting. I have visited Bogota and Medellin twice and never experienced any of those problems. Although to be honest I stuck to more upscale neighborhoods. Certainly I would feel the same way. Wonder how long ago those visits were?

JAYBLK, many thanks for your report. I was an exchange student with La Universidad de los Andes in Bogota awhile ago and your report brought back some very pleasant memories. One of my hangouts (outside the University) was the bar at the Hotel Tequendama, a great place (then) to hook up with both local and foreign guys. I recall spending time with a local businessman I met there at Villa de Leyva - a well-preserved colonial town not too far outside Bogota that I would highly recommend (the place that is). I have gotten back to Colombia since then, on business and to see my host family, but your post has reminded me that it is time for a return visit.

Just got back from Colombia. Your best bet in finding a guide is to contact one of the English-speaking prepares via Grindr or Hornet. They are few, and far between. But, I wouldn't count on bumping into an English speaker at Tobi. The best statistics I have seen suggest that 3% of Colombians are reasonably fluent in English. Most of them don't come from the same economic classes as the prepagos do. By the way, without English, the Grindr and Hornet apps are your only chance of finding reasonably-priced fun in Barranquilla, Cartagena, Cali or even Bogota. Chaturbate is also extremely well-established in Colombia and served as a way to meet and get to know a few Colombians for me. Again, not many English speakers.

That did not happen to me at Hiltons in Bogota but it is close to 2 year since my last visit. Also that does not bother me and actually provides another level of safety.

I've had questions asked of my guests and all had to leave a photo copy of ID. A couple of them had to be registered. Hilton Cartagena, W Bogota, Sheraton Medellin, Hampton by Hilton Cali, Hilton Bogota.

Im writing from Medellin right now and have visited Cali, Cartagena and Bogota on this trip. Medellin is by far the most active city and the only one with anything like a Brazilian sauna. I have managed to connect with a few guys for free via Grindr and Hornet. And I even arranged in person meetings with a couple of my favorite Chaturbaters. I can imagine any of that having happened if I spoke no Spanish.

Isn't this hotel in Bogota, not in Medellin?

Hotel Poblado Alejandria in MedellinHilton and Doubletree in Bogota. I am a Diamond so get treated well Cartagena I rented an apartment because I was taking a couple of boys from Bogota with me so needed room. Found it on www.vrbo.com. I find the prices and reviews are pretty good on Booking.com

The best of Columbia are the masseurs at Club Tobi in Medellin. A relax massage is 30000 COP, a regular massage is 50000 and a full massage is 70000. That's $10, $16 and $22. ( I never noticed a difference between the $16 and $22 sessions) And they don't expect a tip ! For the $16 or $22 session they will do anything you want and would be glad to discretely meet at your hotel where they can keep everything they make. Only 3 masseurs most nights but solid 9's on a scale of 1-10. Bogota is more expensive but anywhere in Columbia 150 Euro sounds more like a price to "buy" rather than "rent". I only saw a couple escort ads in Bogota and those were in Euros and too high so I imagine they try to snag international travelers and businessmen who are used to those prices. Columbians aren't. Grindr, at least in Medellin, is full of "Prepaygos".......Grindr hasn't learned the slang yet. Certainly meet a safe place in public ! Also there's a male brothel in Medellin I hear. .

Never had a problem in Bogota or Medellin Hotels. Cartagena was an apartment but I would guess you don't have much to worry about.

Possibly you should look in the mirror! Quote "Considering some of your prior posts on this forum, wherein you discussed the type of effeminate, very young and skinny males that you pursue in your travels, your assertion is irrational. " I don't remember commenting on your preference for Muscle Hunks. See if you can find a link for that?? Typical attack from you is the above sentence. You are delusional. I have posts here on boys in Spain, Portugal, Poland, Budapest, Prague Bogota, Medellin etc etc with photos. You won't find many skinny effeminate boys except in Thailand and I have tons of replies thanking me for the information I have provided. I don't see anyone thanking you for your ridiculous links to newspapers.

Now in Cartagena. Its difficult to get much information at this time but it appears that the High Park in Bogota is no more but there is now a High Park Hotel in Cartagena in an outlying neighborhood not too far from the walled city. I stayed there (Bogota High Park) and had an excellent experience.

Im planning a 10 day trip to Colombia and I need more info on the Non-Medellin cities. What is the 2015 scene like in Cartagena? Cali? Bogota? Can anyone suggest a reliable tour guide in any of those cites. I speak Spanish but would still love to get the lay of the land from a local. Are there saunas or hustler bars of note in any of these cities? Any places to avoid? Thanks for the advice.

Hi Guys, Thanks again for your feedback. Eventhough it's not what i want to hear, It is greatly appriciated. I have done my research and i was lucky enough to get some direct information from you guys. My friend also told me things I didn't want to hear so my visit to Brazil will be short. A few days Rio and Sao, then on to Bogota for 7 days and the rest I wil spend in mexico. This should be enough time to visit a few saunas and do some tourist stuff. Who knows, if I get a sauna in, i might even go crazy on a beach :-) water looks lovely there. Bogota has been on my list for a long time now. As i read here and there, it can also be unsafe. I have some specific places that i want to visit so a week should be long enough. When i started writing about my past experiences in Mexico, i got curious. So i pulled up a gay map and scrolled to DF. Seems like things are pretty much the same and I really had a great time there. I'm a lot older now so I wonder if i can still meet people that easily. But, most foreign people I hung out with during that time where 45+ and they had a ball, so why not? I'm very interested in knowing if they are quoting in USD http://riogaytours.tumblr.com/post/23820363075/rio-gay-rentboybecause if they do, then they are asking around 3 - 4 times more than date would cost. And the sauna entrance must be on par with western prices too. Anyway, I'm keeping it simple. Hotel at the beach and taxi to sauna and clubs. ps tnx for the link "daddyreviews" ddin't know that website.

I was in Cartagena 2 years ago and rented a fabulous Penthouse on the beach from VRBO. Don't remember the price but far cheaper then nice Hotels. Trip Advisor is your friend if looking for reviews of hotels as well as Booking.com. Good that you speak Spanish because it is easily the most only Spanish city between Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena. I don't speak spanish and even the restaurants had Spanish menus only and very difficult to get around if you don't speak Spanish. . That said a very beautiful and Historic City o the Sea.

“Hustler bar, Sounds very interesting to me. I used to like those bars in Prague. It was always easy to make contact with the boys and it was the perfect mix of the feeling of the hunt, scoring but still pay at the end of the day and with that make an end to it. Could you tell me something about the Crowd, other than that they are hustlers? Like i said, I'm into the twinky, little fem or not, but skinny not muscular type.” The name and address of the hustler bar in Porto Alegre is: Bar Mixx - Conde de Porto Alegre 232 - Porto Alegre You will need to take a taxi there. You asked me to tell you “Something about the crowd.” The crowd changes constantly. There is no fixed type. Many of the guys are good looking but the guys seem more ordinary rather than the better looking and athletic type guys usually found in the saunas. On occasion, some guys from the saunas show up at Bar Mixx. If there are any “twinky little fem” and not skinny not muscular” guys there, I never noticed any. I tend to like the ordinary and athletic type guy. This means that the non skinny twink feminine guys are almost invisible to me when I go to Bar Mixx (or any other place, for that matter). Based on your description of type of guy you prefer, I suspect that you would not like Bar Mixx. _______________________________________ “Well, I hope to get some more information so I can make the final plane bookings. Also, I would be interested to know where the safer street trade can be found in Sao Paolo.” In my post in response to your questions, I wrote, in part, “My many trips to Brazil have taught me things that only time and exposure can teach one.“ Which means that my PERSONAL experience over many trips and many years visiting Brazil have taught me things about visiting there. I would never recommend specific streets or areas to meet street hustlers to a person who has never been to Brazil. It would be too dangerous for you to venture out on your own to such areas and it would be irresponsible of me to make such a recommendation. I say this even those those areas are heavily patrolled by police. I learned about those places while being accompanied by Brazilians, not from being told about the areas. I really hope that you overcome your reluctance to use the saunas for your entertainment while you visit Brazil. Safety is never guaranteed but safety is more likely to be existent in the saunas than on the streets. _______________________________________ I mentioned in my post that I booked a current trip to Colombia prior to my next trip to Brazil in mid September. I will visit only Medellin on my current Colombia trip. In your post you mentioned Bogota, a city that I might visit at some trip in the future, provided I have a good time in Medellin. Again, have a wonderful trip to Brazil. While there, take a deep breath, forget about your shyness for the saunas, and go to the saunas that have garotos. Not all saunas in Brazil have garotos. One more thing. I remember my first trip to Brazil and particularly my first time in a Brazilian sauna. I was fascinated by the idea of the saunas. However, when it came to my actual first visit, I found it nearly impossible to put aside my inhibitions. I went in to the sauna with unfounded trepidation. After that first visit, I have returned many many times to various saunas. Going to the saunas is now second nature to me. I hope it will be the same for you. -

You gave me a lot to think about. You probably don't know that I live in Thailand. This means that S.A. is on the other side of the world with hardly a normal connection to it. So while I'm there I would really like to visit a Spanish speaking country. I stayed two years in Mexico in the past and it will be fun to use mi malo espanol :-) The fact that i have seen many cute Colombians and Venezuelans on some webcam sites has absolutely nothing to do with it *Big Wink* Those guys are insanely hot in my opinion and it will be hard for me to come to that part of the world again anytime soon. So that is the main reason i want to do it all. But time is not an problem. A week in one place is really enough for me. So from that perspective, I could do both countries and an extra city in Brazil. I was just looking what the options for round trips are. Here in Asia, flying is dirt cheap. Not so in S.A. i noticed. Not many price fighters battling for passengers. I'm sure you are right about the gringo part. Although, many people think (guess when i ask them) that I'm from Brazil, hehe... until i open my mouth. I recognize that the relative safety of Thailand is not enjoyed around the world. (45 minutes later) I just took some time to research flight options and i was very surprised. I remember flights being more expensive. So I can do Rio - Porto Alegre - Sao Paulo - Bogota - Caracas - Rio for 726 USD, which is a steal in my book. That was the first combination i looked at so there might be even better options. I noticed that the last flight would always make a stopover in Lima, getting in two days in Lima would probably mean an extra 100USD for the flight/stop over. This will give me a fair impression of S.A. and will make the long haul from Asia worth while. Hustler bar, Sounds very interesting to me. I used to like those bars in Prague. It was always easy to make contact with the boys and it was the perfect mix of the feeling of the hunt, scoring but still pay at the end of the day and with that make an end to it. Could you tell me something about the Crowd, other than that they are hustlers? Like i said, I'm into the twinky, little fem or not, but skinny not muscular type. The sauna :-) I hope you guys will talk me into it, and I will be grateful in the end. Being so self aware is messing with ones fun in life I think. What you were saying about not bringing boys to the hotel is straight up my alley. Yes, for all the reasons you said but also for the privacy I hold dear. In the Philippines there are love hotels on every corner and i wouldn't do without them. Filipinos (generalizing here) are scruples. They don't seem to have the word No (in any language) in their vocabulary). Not sure if Brazilians are as pushy as well, but if they don't know where you stay, the cannot bother you at your hotel. I'm so amazed that you have an exact count of your trips to Brazil :-) I'm sure you can average your boy count with that too. Your trip to Bogota comes at a perfect time. Hopefully you'll have a blast and can treat us to some war stories. I'm not sure what you are into, but to me, Colombians are hot. They seems much more loose than Asians but this is just something i "think" to know. Where are you going to stay in Brazil? If I'm near, i would always be in for a drink. But, I realize that we are total strangers so i wouldn't be offended if this didn't happen. Well, I hope to get some more information so i can make the final plane bookings. Also, I would be interested to know where the safer street trade can be found in Sao Paolo. Hotel recommendations for the places you have suggested would be welcome too. I hope I'm not asking to many questions, but i shouldn't have to reinvent the wheel. Like i said in another thread "I'd be happy to reciprocate if any of you might need information about Asia. Especially countries like Japan, Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand and Hong Kong.

Not me if non stop is available for a few $ more.. FLL easy airport to navigate , customs easy etc. Any time you have stop overs the chance of missing a connection or checked baggage lost etc. Steve the escort site (individual escort postings) you posted about looks very interesting and legitimate. Love to hear from anyone that has used it. http://co.milerotico...oquia/medellin/ I too have found the boys in Bogota and Medellin fun to be with even with the language barrier.

But SteveMTL, I agree with you on the Grindr issue, I had numerous contacts and most of them specified that they wanted to meet mature men. It seems to be quite easy to get flights on the frequent flyer programs and Avianca is a great airline and is associated with the Star Alliance frequent flyer program. I am going to avoid going through Mexico City and Bogota next time. Neither one of those airports was easy to go through.

Even as a Gold on DL I got upgraded every single time to Bogota and paid lowest economy fares.

Last year or perhaps the year before, I searched the travel section on http://www.craigslist.comfor tour guides in Colombia, Bogota and Medellin; there were two or three at the time. For one who has little to no knowledge of Espanol, perhaps getting a guide during your first trip {solo} would be of great help. From what Colina77 posted, I would have been at a complete loss as well as frustrated! But, when I venture back to Cuba, I plan to take an electronic translator; ...will do the same if I manage to take the plunge and travel to Colombia, a country which has begun to lure me after reading the posts at this site as well as seeing and speaking with the gorgeous guys on "Flirt for Free" who have always told me that their home base is some city in Colombia.