Escort Guys in Europe - Where do they move in Summer?

[forrestreid]

Earlier this year there was some discussion about where escorts move on during the summer season. Especially with regard to places like a Ibiza or Mykonos.

 

Some people were wondering when those resorts get busy with guys. When is it safe to go to a tourist spot, knowing you will be able to find a guy?

 

A very pertinent question!

 

 

So, as a service to the readers of Boytoy, I decided to do a bit of an analysis.

 

For six months from the 1st of June I did a little search on Hunqz for six locations. They were Mykonos, Sitges, Ibiza, Torremolinos, Lisbon, and Gran Canaria.

 

Basically, I pretended I was there on the dates and just counted how many escorts were listed. For Sitges and Torremolinos I did a 10 km radius.

 

I picked the  first four locations as I thought they were  summer resorts. The last two, Lisbon and the Gran Canaria, were a sort of reference as I thought Gran Canaria could be as busy in winter as summer and Lisbon being an urban destination, would probably be as busy, or busier in winter.

 

Starting in June was probably a little late, but late May was when I got the idea.

 

So what did I find?

 

Well, On the 1st of June, here are the numbers:

Mykonos - 10

Sitges - 18

Ibiza - 25

Torremolinos - 23

Lisbon - 79

Gran Canaria - 49

 

And then in the first of July you had:

Mykonos - 13

Sitges - 20

Ibiza - 34

Torremolinos - 21

Lisbon - 76

Gran Canaria - 60

 

Then on the 1st of August you had:

Mykonos - 19

Sitges - 24

Ibiza - 40

Torremolinos - 23

Lisbon - 81

Gran Canaria - 43

 

Then on the 1st September you had:

Mykonos - 57

Sitges - 39

Ibiza - 55

Torremolinos - 33

Lisbon - 132

Gran Canaria - 98

 

By the 1st of October if you had:

Mykonos - 12

Sitges - 18

Ibiza - 30

Torremolinos - 31

Lisbon - 91

Gran Canaria - 70

 

Then on the 1st of November the numbers changed to.

Mykonos - 8

Sitges - 11

Ibiza - 15

Torremolinos - 18

Lisbon - 80

Gran Canaria - 62

 

And finally on the 1st of December.

Mykonos - 2

Sitges - 9

Ibiza - 9

Torremolinos - 18

Lisbon - 79

Gran Canaria - 42

 

So what does this tell us?

 

As that is a bit of a date dump for one post, I will expand on that further on another post.

 

Edited December 1, 2019 by forrestreid
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[Riobard]

Thanks for the “long game” diligence.

Apart from location, what stands out for me is Sept 1st has about twice as many listings across the board as most other of the six 1st of months in the dataset. 

I wonder if this is partly an artefact of traditional August vacation months, outside of local events about which I know nothing. Aug 1st was a Thursday and may have slightly predated holiday start-up. Sept 1st was a Sunday and may have fallen within the parameters of many holiday time blocks ... spikes in Mykonos, Lisbon, and Gran Canaria. 

The assessment, so far, suggests a closer look next year for August and September; when does the inventory start increasing and then taper off?

[forrestreid]

What does this tell us?

So as can be expected, the was a big temporary jump for Mykonos and Ibiza, from 10 and 25 guys respectively in the beginning of June, to 57 and 55 respectively by the 1st of September, and then down to 2 in Mykonos and 9 in Ibiza by December.

What I was not expecting was that there would be such a bias within the summer months. I had presumed that the numbers in Mykonos would have reached their summer maximum  by around the 1st of July but as you can see there is a huge jump between the numbers you see in early July and early August, and the numbers  at the end of August and early September. Guessing that the reason for this in Mykonos is that there is a circuit party there in late August which probably attracted a lot of escort guys. But there is also a large bias towards the late summer in Ibiza as well.

A similar process, though less pronounced, was seen in a Sitges. So if you’re thinking of going to The Barcelona area, or Mykonos for your holidays, it may be better to wait until very late summer if you want to have a good selection of escorts.

Also, I was rather surprised by Lisbon and Gran Canaria. I was half expecting the number is in Lisbon and Grand Canaria  to be slightly slower in summer than in the winter, as I thought the Lisbon boys might be moving out to resorts, and I had imagined Gran Canaria as more of a winter destination. But actually they too saw a bulge in numbers in late summer. To be precise, they didn’t change that much for most of the summer and then had a big jump in late August/early September. The fact that the numbers increased in all areas simultaneously in later summer surprised me a bit. 

Where are the guys coming from is the question?

Perhaps you have some guys have only work in the business during the summer.

Also perhaps you would have seen more of an emptying out of  northern European cities if I sampled them. I had assumed that Lisbon and Gran Canaria would have dropped a bit in high summer, but maybe I underestimated how much those places are also summer tourist destinations.

I’ll be interested to hear of people think of the figures. If you have experience in those cities does this sound right to you? Remember this is just data from Hunkz, perhaps other sites would show different figures.

Let me know what you think anyway.

If I were to do something similar next summer, what locations would you suggest?

 

 

Edited December 1, 2019 by forrestreid
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[forrestreid]

 

As Riobard says, what day of the week it is can have an influence too.

 

I would say Sitges (for one) would have a noticeable difference if one compared a month when the first of the month fell on a Wednesday compared to when the first fell on a Saturday.

 

If i was to do it again, I think i would pick the first Saturday of the month to compare, rather than the first day of the month.

 

 

[Riobard]

But I count 180 on Hunqz in Lisbon today Dec 1st, not 79. Most within 2-3 km. I count by Distance, not Discover or Activity, though the numbers are about the same. 

Edited December 1, 2019 by Riobard

[forrestreid]

Interesting Riobard!

I just tried again and I got 83 when I went out 10 km (I actually went out 10 km for Lisbon as well when I was counting - forgot to note that)

My last three when I looked tonight were Blacklx(8.1km), bi-horn-xxl (8.2 km) and Latin_Boy_XL (9.5 km).

I suppose you could keep going a bit, as a few of the next guys are presumably in the Lisbon suburbs, but within four or five more guys down I am getting guys in Evora, which is 118 km away.

Are you placing yourself in Lisbon when you are doing the count, or are you checking another way?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Riobard]

I replace Montreal with Lisbon and it pulls up Metropolitan Lisbon / Grande Lisboa. I know that since I upgraded to iPhoneXR with more updated iOS I am getting better search results. Here I attach screenshots of the first 4 rows and the last 12 rows of a total of about 60 rows (60 x 3 =180 listings).

Your 3 guys appear at very slightly different distances compared to your distances, and scattered broadly across the cluster of 180. I think my listings defaulted to Alfama district as centre of radius. 

But here's the kicker. When I log in to Planet Romeo to try to enlarge thumbnails and open a handful of blurred profiles, I only get a small handful of Lisbon ads before it jumps much further afield. I have always found the "synapses" between the two platforms very wonky. I should add that I do not have Romeo Plus.

Edited December 3, 2019 by Riobard

[Riobard]

Sorry, more than a handful ... about 30 listings when I sign in, about 15% the volume compared to just going as a guest into the Hunqz site. The problem for me, then, is not being able to contact a guy from the large grouping (I obviously want to see them all) unless he bothered to include his # in the ad's text. Also, I have to try to explain to a guy why I need him to send me his photos if the thumbnails are too miniscule. 

Edited December 3, 2019 by Riobard

[forrestreid]

Hmm, It would appear that the guys you see vary depending on whether you are logged in or not.

Rather strange, and not helpful to the guys seeking business, I would have thought.

[Riobard]

2 hours ago, ForrestReid1614502761 said:

Hmm, It would appear that the guys you see vary depending on whether you are logged in or not.

Rather strange, and not helpful to the guys seeking business, I would have thought.

I know, right? That is what occurred to me. Clients lose on selection and providers lose on visibility.

I just did a search for Barcelona along the same lines. Ratio 4.5 : 1 for site listings volume versus listings when logged into Planet Romeo. 

Edited December 5, 2019 by Riobard

[DutchDork]

Are there saunas with GPs in Lisbon?

[pong]

Yes, its true there can/will be a big difference between yes/not logged in as member to hunqz/planetrom. BTW-the classic version of the members only site is to close down soon now, as was announced.

As for original topic: highly doubt that many of these guys move for holiday. I rather guess that that sudden swell is by some normal tourists taking the chance to perhaps make some money on the side. Unless you go as far as to check if same names do move. 

Besides that-hunqz in not very populair or even well known among many other countries, it remains firmly german/german speaking. Most Euro countries have their own kind of national sites for that. Could be useful to open a thread listing these.

[forrestreid]

Ducky, I wasn’t really suggesting that the escorts were moving mainly for holiday reasons, I was more suggesting that they’re moving to where the market is for the summer.

Although if an escort guy from Hamburg moves to Mykonos for July and August, it is probably partly to enjoy the Mykonos summer, and partly to be in a place where there is  (temporarily) plenty of clients.

Perhaps hard to disentangle the motivations in many cases, I would guess.

Regarding your point about Hunqz not being that as popular as other sites in countries outside of Germany, I would not be so sure about that.

Just as a quick example I looked at Telechapero for Gran Canaria today.

It shows 29 guys there are available on Telechapero now. This compares to Hunqz having 42 guys on the 1st of December. 

So that would suggest that Hunqz is more popular than Telechapero  in the Canaries anyway.

Would  love to see if you knew any sites that had more than Hunqz in Spanish cities, it’ll be interesting to look at more data.

[Jeff88]

On 12/1/2019 at 1:39 PM, ForrestReid1614502761 said:

Earlier this year there was some discussion about where escorts move on during the summer season. Especially with regard to places like a Ibiza or Mykonos.

 

Some people were wondering when those resorts get busy with guys. When is it safe to go to a tourist spot, knowing you will be able to find a guy?

 

A very pertinent question!

 

 

So, as a service to the readers of Boytoy, I decided to do a bit of an analysis.

 

For six months from the 1st of June I did a little search on Hunqz for six locations. They were Mykonos, Sitges, Ibiza, Torremolinos, Lisbon, and Gran Canaria.

 

Basically, I pretended I was there on the dates and just counted how many escorts were listed. For Sitges and Torremolinos I did a 10 km radius.

 

I picked the  first four locations as I thought they were  summer resorts. The last two, Lisbon and the Gran Canaria, were a sort of reference as I thought Gran Canaria could be as busy in winter as summer and Lisbon being an urban destination, would probably be as busy, or busier in winter.

 

Starting in June was probably a little late, but late May was when I got the idea.

 

So what did I find?

 

 

Obviously, the place to take a vacation is Lisbon! 

[curiousnature12]

This is interesting analysis.

Considering how circuit/pride events are usually a bad time to hire, is the increased numbers in some cities worth visiting? Or would you use this data to plan on going/hiring during a weekday before the parties start?

 

[tassojunior]

I'm surprised there was that much of a difference on Hunqz since most ads there are free and guys leave them on a long time but never check them. Even in Europe the more quality guys are moving to $100/mo RentMen. Stiges is sort of a Barcelona suburb so I'm not sure how ads there vs Barcelona factor. 

I'd take a hard pass on most of them in winter. 

Edited October 1, 2020 by tassojunior

[Devin86]

Hi guys, as European citizen I can tell you that many guys move to Mykonos for the XLsior festival that take place the last week of August on the beautiful Greek island! There’s a lot of famous pornstars in the vip area and also celebrities that work in fashion. Out in the huge dancefloor there’s plenty of nice escorts 

[Greg_blond]

On 11/12/2020 at 7:42 AM, Devin86 said:

Hi guys, as European citizen I can tell you that many guys move to Mykonos for the XLsior festival that take place the last week of August on the beautiful Greek island! There’s a lot of famous pornstars in the vip area and also celebrities that work in fashion. Out in the huge dancefloor there’s plenty of nice escorts 

Mykonos is indeed very expensive in that period of the year ....

[Devin86]

It is! Well Mykonos is the most exclusive destination in Greece, it stands to Greece as St. Barth’s for the US but of course it’s not so exclusive! If you book in advantage you can save a lot on your accommodation...restaurants varies a lot, many are Italians and there’s some Greek ones very good! 

[Greg_blond]

4 minutes ago, Devin86 said:

It is! Well Mykonos is the most exclusive destination in Greece, it stands to Greece as St. Barth’s for the US but of course it’s not so exclusive! If you book in advantage you can save a lot on your accommodation...restaurants varies a lot, many are Italians and there’s some Greek ones very good! 

Thanks! Any tips for accommodation on Mykonos?

[Devin86]

Well the island is small but at night there’s some police around so if you want to have a drink and have fun it’s better to not drive. So the best way is finding an accommodation near Mykonos town. The most beautiful (and expensive) hotels are Belvedere and Cavo Tagoo. Elysium is a nice location too. 
if you travel with friends or you prefer to use taxi at night you could consider to book a private villa out of the town, some are stunning