‘Land of Smiles’ fast becoming ‘Land of Russian Crime’

[vinapu]

11 minutes ago, unicorn said:

Because otherwise anyone can spout off any bullshit he wants and claim it's true in the language he invented in his head. That's the reason dictionaries were invented: to settle disputes regarding words' meanings and definitions. 

explanation is logical but not very charitable to us , people whose English is not first , sometimes not even second language

[Moses]

4 hours ago, unicorn said:

Culture and nationality are two separate concepts. Americans often celebrate our cultural heritages, but we're still all American. It's a sign of a strong society.

Your "strong society" falling apart on your eyes and you pretend not see it. Such society polarization never been in US since Civil war. So don't pretend you are from "strong society".

The storming of the Capitol is hardly a sign of a strong society, and it is certainly not a sign of a cohesive society.

By the way: you "society" still owes human civilization for the genocide of the indigenous population of America, for the nuclear bombing of Japanese civilians, for more than half a million victims of the invasion of Iraq...

Therefore, your empty pride, inflated with air, about a “strong society” is worth less than the price of the air in it... Deal with your under-candidates for president, one of whom is an old senile, and the other a red-haired neo-Nazi clown, maybe there will be a reason for pride. In the meantime, your "strong society" is more like a herd of sheep, led by a clan gerontocracy behind a clown or a senile person. 

P.S. How many scions of the Kennedy clan have already warmed their asses in the Senate over the past 70 years?

P.P.S. Your “strong society” is still not trusted to even directly vote for its own president.

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, Moses said:

Deal with your under-candidates for president, one of whom is an old senile, and the other a red-haired neo-Nazi clown, maybe there will be a reason for pride.

at least Americans have choice between two candidates, not between candidate and prison on Kolyma.

Love songs about Russian system certainly would sound better if supported by Russia own elite , always keen to keep both ,  their honestly made money and ill gotten gains as well  their own children in their own  country instead of safe and predictable heaven of the West as they do. After all Stalin's own daughter died American, don't you guys see irony in that ?

[unicorn]

6 hours ago, Moses said:

... Your “strong society” is still not trusted to even directly vote for its own president.

At least we have a choice! 😉 Yes, our 18th Century system is definitely outdated. When our system was developed, Russians will still ruled by an absolute ruler who had sex with horses.

[unicorn]

7 hours ago, vinapu said:

explanation is logical but not very charitable to us , people whose English is not first , sometimes not even second language

Google translate is free. I use it even for languages with which I'm quite fluent. It makes it easier for everyone on both sides of the communication. 

https://translate.google.com/

[Moses]

6 hours ago, unicorn said:

Russians will still ruled by an absolute ruler who had sex with horses.

Yeah, you just forgot to mention she was German princess, who ruled after her died husband. Princess Sophia Augusta Frederica von Anhalt-Zerbst, known as Ekaterina Great.

And you also forgot, what Russians already had election, when the USA did not yet exist - in XII century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novgorod_veche 

[unicorn]

4 hours ago, Moses said:

...And you also forgot, what Russians already had election, when the USA did not yet exist - in XII century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novgorod_veche 

Nor did Russia exist at that time. Russia's had one free election in its entire history. Congratulations.

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, Moses said:

Yeah, you just forgot to mention she was German princess, who ruled after her died husband. Princess Sophia Augusta Frederica von Anhalt-Zerbst, known as Ekaterina Great.

 

irony of history is that she was born in Stettin, now Szczecin in Poland , country she helped to annihilate by being instrumental force in it's three partitions

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, unicorn said:

 Russia's had one free election in its entire history. Congratulations.

to be even handed , results of some American free elections may be prominent argument that those aren't that great idea after all.

Not only in USA by the way, quite a few nasty types were elected and applauded freely, certain Adolf being one of them.

We in the west are guilty of another free election sin by conveniently forgetting it's value when results don't suit our rulers purpose. Sad fates of ones like Arbenz of Guatemala, Mossadegh of Iran or Allende in Chile , just to name a few  are sad memento that we can do much better job doing what we preach.

And there's little doubt that first attempt after Second World War  to change borders in Europe  by force was made by country led by nasty guy still likely commanding support of it's country majority of population, some of them  gays. But who said wolf can't be freely elected to lead lamb herd or chicken can't support fox as their boss.