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and rooms are very nice

I was there month in January and 8 days in May and while those type of behavior happened before it was very rare and anecdotic. This time it was repetitive disaster to a point that last Saturday in the morning I caught myself thinking, " o my God , still 5 days before I go home " instead of usual " O my God, only 5 more days and I need to go home". This even surprised myself. No, I'm in no mood to look for excuses that boys have hard lives etc. There was time I was bleeding heart for them . This time is bit different, hence tittle of this thread.

I understand all that, I'm not teenager for very long time. If what you describe is the case it's very simple to disclaim that one can't stay past whatever time is. Puzzling part is why promise to stay till 5 while already in the room so deal is made anyways without fear of losing baht and 2 hours later change story to hunger and rain in order to go home earlier. There must be something mysterious about that 2 am as he left at the same time night before and going bit ahead , he will do the same following night ( yes , I decided that I'm in Thailand to have fun , not to get even and opted to take him next night as well, this time hoping for nothing and thus avoided being disappointed ). Up to 2 am he was great guy indeed, both at the table and in the sheets all there nights we met. Challenging life doesn't clash with keeping standards, no need to fabricate stories when sincerity will do.

Day 2 After he left I collapsed on the bed for well deserved rest after two nights on the plane and night in between spent sightseeing. At 9 breakfast with my forum friend at Kiss, then introduction to Jomtien with some time spent on almost empty beach. There one could see it’s really low season. Then noon time stroll through empty Jomtien Complex. I was checking throughout the day if message from my last night guest will show he will come for daytime visit but by 14.30 I lost all hope and when I lost it, around 4 pm message came he wont be able to come because he is still helping his friend to move and settle. Nice dinner with forum friend in the seaside restaurant at mouth of Walking Street. Tonight we decided to start survey of realm with ToyBoys. At 9 not too many customers , several twinky boys in briefs on the stage plus few , I’d say more attractive standing by the door in jeans and without numbers but clearly hoping. I suspect it could be foreign boys who in case of raid can claim they are only customers , hence neither numbers nor work attire. One was actually vert attractive , almost like my last night companion. After we left I went to Dreamboys to pay off fee for my last night guy to make sure he won’t be taken and promised him to take him out no later than midnight. I had hope he will stick to his last night promise to stay overnight At 10 change scenery for BoyzBoyBoyz. Loud music, smoking inside the bar, two dozen if not more fully dressed boys on the stage with only two bare chested. Mamasan Lek recognized me immediately and informed that sadly off fee now is 1050. Wow ! And that for boys dressed like anybody else on the street ? for a while I was only farang but after 2 or 3 more came but generally all customers were Asian or more precise , looking Chinese. Not seeing anything nor anybody of interest, most boys looked very average dressed as to cover any trace of sexiness, we did not even wait for a show, gulped our drinks and very disappointed went to ABomb only to learn that they don’t have boys at the moment and they show up only for the show. That’s strange , boy bar without boys ? End must be near , that’s rather sure. So much sooner than expected we went to Dreamboys where y guy was waiting for me with smile , I bought him a drink, we had talk with mamasans and hour later went to hotel. Very nice talk in the room, we exchanged some photos. It turned out I visited his city in Thailand . We talked about Bangkok as he never been there . I suggested he may visit me next week when I return from Cambodia and he seemed enthusiastic about an idea of me being his Bangkok guide. Of course I asked about promised long time. “I can only till 5 “, we even agreed on compensation of 3000. Bed activities excellent then , like last night 2 am arrive and all of the sudden he expressed desire to go home because he is hungry and it’s supposed to be raining and he wants to be home before rain starts. Goes without saying that I was upset as things were going very well, to a point that I did not even reduced his tip but let him gram 3000 prepared for an occasion on the desk. After he left I had cooling down stroll through deserted already streets in vicinity and even treated myself with kebab in the shop I had honor to patronize on the day of their opening back in Dec 2021. Apart from upsetting it was puzzling as we genuinely went along great, knew what to expect from each other from yesterday so why false promises if sincerity would do ? I cant say day 2 ended well for me , I start even questioning what is wrong with me if such nice guy is treating me such way?

sounds like description of quite a few Thai boys I met on recently finished trip

Arrival This time is was quite a long trek since I had 12 hours layover in Munich. After overnight flight my plan was to do some sightseeing of the city, few people I know consider most interesting in Germany. But even best plans are derailed and sometimes replaced by even better ones. Upon arrival at main train station, itself a long train ride from the airport , count at least 45 minutes, I noticed train to Garmish Patenkirchen departing in 7 minutes. Enough time to place my carry-on in locker, ticket was no issue as I got 1 day Bavaria Ticket purchased at the airport already. 90 minutes later alighted from the train at Garmish but instead of admiring Alpine vistas I noticed poster about train trips to Germany’s highest peak Zugspitze. Round trip to the peak by separate train plus cable car up and down was 72 euros. I said silent prayer that it will work and soon I was on my way . at certain point we changed train to different one, cog wheeled which took us through the tunnel to the glacier, quite high up there. From last station it was cable car to viewing platform just below the actual peak. Day was beautiful so you can imagine views from the top. Going down was direct cable car from the top to train station. From there to Garmish and then another train to Munich. Getting there just in time to catch train to the airport and board my Bangkok bound overnighter. Little I knew at that time that this transit day was perhaps best day of entire trip, bonus being completely unplanned and not even expected to be spent that way. Day 1 Arrived in Bangkok at 14.30. First step was to buy SIM card as I was supposed to meet another ,member who was about to finish his Thai trip with 3 days in Pattaya and this way my first were his last 3. Immigration was a breeze and soon we meet at Gate 8 from where Bus to Pattaya departs but we decided to call Bolt or Grab, whatever my friend was using and for 1000 baht plus 100 tip , 80 minutes after we were alighting in front of Classroom hotel. Since it was my friend’s first visit in the city we did walk about Boyztown’s sois an Beach Rd, I showed him famous Lewinsky hotel, we sat for a dinner at bay watch restaurant and at 21.00 parked ourselves, beer in hand on Copa’s verandah to see Boyztown coming to life. An hour later we decided to check show at XBoys so went there . It was almost full and show was very progressive with a lot of flesh visible and not one but two special shows. It was surprising to see one of their guys I know for years to be actually smilingly bottoming in one of them. And no, it was not just a simulation. Then was decided , at my insistence to check Dreamboys across the soi. I was hoping #36 I saw twice in January will be there . There were no customers but about dozen boys assembled on the stage for us , 36 was not one of them but fast my friend pointed at another guy and I wasted no time to call him over. Tall, muscular and handsome. Drink and whisper “ do you go with me ? “ answered “ yes” smilingly. What about long time ? “I will tell you later” was the answer. Soon we were walking to hotel. On top of physical attractiveness his English proved very conversational and we had good time indeed. What about that long time ? “ I can not tonight as I need to wake up early to help my friend to move, but tomorrow for sure” . What about daytime visit ?, “I will let you know tomorrow”. At 2 session was over , he wanted to go home to sleep so collected his tip, 2000, high for Pattaya but worth every penny an went his way. I , after two nights on the plane and day in between spent sightseeing Alpes , collapsed on the bed for well deserved , although lonely sleep. While in Thailand I like to wake up in the morning next to a fine gentleman, not necessarily dressed and to complete a deal , to have breakfast with him. But not tonight as we can see.

there's no such thing like free lunch

it's all circus , not serious, rules bound politics

I like 'Tata"

good point as I always wondered which is which until we met in Le Meridien and now I know better

There were such rumors in the past so finally in Januray I decided to check how it really is and I did not have any problems with neither bringing my guest at middle of the night nor having him accompany me for breakfast there. So as far as I'm concerned it's included on 'ready for use ' list . Entry to elevators is by card and is bypassing reception for added level of discretion.

I never stay at Bandara suites , friend who stay there recently liked it but was complaining about being noisy due to a lot of families with children staying there. I stay in Bally Suites, it was not that noisy but their windowless rooms felt bit claustrophobic. Still good value for money and location very handy for us sinners.

spot on I guess !

some people have all luck in life, double that and we can talk

and be assaulted by the driver

of course, one is in Pattaya after all try Helios behind Tukcom or Paradise in Boyztown in the same soi ABomb and Classroom hotels are.

I stay in Venue on few occasions. I liked rooms but those facing complex can be noisy indeed. Once it was so noisy that I got upset and went down to bar to have a drink. Waiter who brought it asked concerned ' are you sleeping alone tonight? " to which I answered ' no, with you ", soon we were back in the room and somehow noise did not bother me that much anymore

enjoy while it lasts

or recommendation from member required

+1 indeed one may even get " a look" if it's not bringing any guests and they may think he is spy or something For those really concerned about discretion Raya is unbeatable. Reception is on 5th floor an if your room is on other floor nobody ever will see you nor your guest. Even if it's on 5th floor you can always go with your gust to floor 4 and then climb the stairs in the back 1 floor up. This is what I did on my recent trip I just returned from

looks far on map but in reality if you use BTS you can be at Saphan Kwai station in 20-25 mins from SalaDaeng which is less than walk to Prince

looks that era of trouble free travel on short notice we enjoyed in last 30-40 years is coming to an end. Yes , it may be factor in selecting destinations. I personally know people who would not travel to any country requiring visa just as matter of principle.

Hence the name I presume

I did and it was guy whom I offed from Jupiter at Covid time

be prepared for hard bargaining based on my recent trip experience. Some guys will yield but others were surprisingly standing their ground to point of not getting business.