Travellerdave

You mention the Jomtien Palm Beach Resort. I stayed there last January for 4 nights when my preferred hotel in the Complex, the Agate was full when I arrived with no reservation, but could offer me a room for the rest of my trip. The Palm Beach is a huge place with impressive facilities , including indoor bowling. I checked on arrival and was told that there would be no problem with me having boy joiners in my room, but it seemed to have mainly Chinese tour party guests, so I would not recommend it for gay single men like you and me. I transferred to the Agate after the 4 nights.

Yes I’ve taken the cheap option of the baht bus, normally from the bus rank at he junction of second road / south pattaya road to virtually outside the Complex. But this often involves waiting at busy times while the baht bus fills up. Not good when you have a hot boy with you !

Over the years during my stays in the Complex, I’ve brought boys back to my hotel (mostly Zing) without problem. For recent visits it’s been Bolt Taxi, but in the past I’ve used motor bike taxis or a rented bike. When Sunee was a popular gay area there was always a waiting bike taxi outside Winner. Not sure I would ride pillion on a boy’s bike ! It would be great if Winner survives and prospers, I loved that Gogo, but that’s another story.

My experience was the same, but it’s at a distance from BT and the Complex. I hired a motor bike when I stayed there. Occasionally boys weren’t keen to go there because of that problem.

The first time I visited tte Sansuck (nearly 20 years ago)I got a tour of the place by the owner, who I think was called Punya, when I had a few questions at reception. He took me around including the guest house. I was much better looking in those days and he started to feel my cock, but I was more interested to see what was going on by the pool and the upper floors. I had lots of fun on that occasion and subsequent visits, twice staying in the guest house, but I’ve not been there for about 2 years. I would be interested in an up to date report.

Nice to see two new bars open in the Complex both with a complement of boys and customers. I’m looking forward to a January/February visit when I’ll be able to check them out. The Complex continues to cement its position as the premier night time vunue for gay men, particularly those like me who enjoy Asian boys.

Nepalese boys in Pattaya ?. My only interaction with Nepalese was 15 years ago when I was part of a 2 week trekking holiday into the high mountains. They carried our bags and generally looked after us on the trail. Tough friendly young guys .

I believe that the Complex Hotels don’t have much availability in the run up to Christmas. I’ve got thoughts about being there during late January . Have any Cambodian boys returned ?

Yes Rob, I would have been anticipating sex and speculating as to the forthcoming experience. I think it would be rather different from my activities with the Laos boys i offed from the Complex bars.

I had a long chat with an older Thai guy when I was seated in a gay section of the Dongtan Beach. During my 18 day stay at the Agate in the Complex I made regular early afternoon visits to the Jomtien Gym on Beach Road and afterwards walking each time to a particular section arriving about 3pm to spend a couple of hours relaxing, sometimes reading and on a couple of occasions chatting to other farangs. On this occasion there were few customers and by 4:30 I was nearly on my own and had dozed off. When I opened my eyes I spotted an 40’s Asian guy stood near the sea. He was rather good looking - slim, brown and rather wiry and was dressed in loose briefs. He saw me looking at him and started strolling slowly along the waters edge but then deviated away from the sea and turned to take a path up the line of chairs to where I was seated, taking uninvited the next one. The section boss appeared but I said “no problem”. We chatted for about 20 minutes cumulating in a proposal from him for us to return to my hotel for sex, mentioning he was versatile and indicating his erect cock under his briefs. Discretion took the better of me and I declined. He just got up and walked away to an adjoining section leaving me to settle my bill and walk back to the Complex, wondering what would have transpired.

The “indoor swimming pool” consists of what could be described as a large bathtub, through which flows a pumped stream of water, against which you can swim. I found this quite amusing but my 2 night boy refused to join me in the water. I stayed there just before Covid - it was fine, but I can’t remember using the restaurent. It was 100% gay.

I’ve stayed at the Sansuck several times but not since Covid. An attraction was that staying there included admittance to the gay sauna of which, like Olddaddy, I took full advantage. However there are no recent descriptions of this facility on this site. The rooms were fine but the place is rather far (well over a mile) from “the action” in the Complex with an uphill walk to the main road where using the baht buses was sometimes difficult (often full) i had Zombie’s problem last January with the Complex hotels not having availability. I easily found a room in the Jomtien Palm Beach Resort which is the big hotel nearby on the beach. I asked about joiners mentioning that for me they would be boys and the reception replied “no problem”. After a good week there I did eventually find availability at the Agate on Expedia for the rest of my stay. Maybe the Palm Beach is worth considering.

Vinapu’s brief advice is spot on. I would be surprised if the Agate is fully booked. It’s a lot larger than its outside appearance would suggest and during my stay there in August I sometimes got the impression that it was 90% empty. Perhaps try a direct reservation by email or telephone if rooms are not available on the platforms.

I very much agree with Vinapu that things have changed, certainly since I made my first trip to Thailand in 2000. Then you were very much more likely to get harassment from a minority of aggressive straights whilst out and about with younger Thai men. I still am wary of taking boys around the Soi Buakhow area in Pattaya. You occasionally see women in bikinis sat in gay sections of the Dongtan Beach presumably for the same reason Vinapu mentions.

The Complex today differs from Sunee of a few years ago in another way and that concerns str tourists. You never saw them in Sunee which was overwhelmingly a ghetto for gay men looking for sex with Asian boys. The Complex on the other hand is mixed particularly in the hotels. I’ve stayed this year twice in the Agate and once in the Zing and in both the guests were a mixture of gays like myself and str families/couples , whereas that was definitely not the case in the one hotel I used intermittently in Sunee. I have been occasionally conscious of stares and glances from strs when in the lobby/lift/restaurent and round the pools when I have a boy in tow. This does bother me at all, but from the point of view of strs, I wonder if they are misled by the reports by guests on Booking.com etc where there is hardly a mention of the orientation of the Complex and it’s bars and hotels.