Travellerdave

The Marina Inn is good value, particularly if you like using the pool. I stayed there a few years ago so maybe my comment isnt worth much. More recently Ive stayed at the Don Plaza. The rooms there are better, but the steep stairs maybe a problem for the less active. My problem with hotels in Sunee and BT is the noise if you have an early night. Of couse there is no difficulty bringing boys back at either hotel subject to ID checks.

Thanks for that report biguyby - I'm due in Pats August but i haven't bought my air ticket yet. I dont like it when the bars are very quiet - i feel uncomfortable when there are few customers in a bar and more so if I'm the only one. During my March trip I found Sunny Boys the best bar for twinks and it was my major source of offs apart from GR. Looking forward to the report on your visit to Dongtan Beach. Im one of contributors who bemoan the decline of the beach as a place to hook up with boys. It was great when I first visited Pats some 9 years ago. Plenty of boys in speedos then as per my avator.

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Up to about 8 years ago, when I discovered Thailand and Pattaya, I used spend my holidays on the Canary Islands at the resort of Playa del Ingles. There gay life focussed on a section of the beautiful beach and the large area of sun dunes, where gays went for sex despite the efforts of the police. There was an area of bars and clubs called the Yumbo Centre, which was also gay, and where rent boys were available. I found no difficulty in finding young boyfriends, although of course I was better looking in those days. It is only 4.5 hour flight from the UK and accommodation costs are modest. The beach is superb as is the climate. However Ive never been back since and instead I make an arduous 24 hour journey to Pattaya, where the beach is poor, and the climate is humid and too hot. Why ? - we all know why. THAI BOYS !

Biguyby - Im with you on the £200 Uk rent boy tip, and I don't think this figure is at all unusual. I save my money for my regular Thai trips. I think your budget of 1500 baht per day is serious economy. I probably spend nearly three times this amount and like you my alcohol intake is very limited. Boy tips are a big item as I like one in my bed most nights and Im quite generous. I suppose bearing in mind the cost of flights and accommodation I could have cheaper sex at home, but like firecat Im addicted to cute Thai boys. In Europe I hear good reports on Prague, which has a vibrant gay scene.

Im in a similar position biguyby. Recently retired so now plenty of time, but with more limited resources than formally. I plan to make 3 trips a year to Pattaya - one recently in March, one in September and maybe one in November. These months are rather low season. Prices for flights and hotels are lower then. No variation in drink prices, but Im not a big drinker. Tips for boys don't seem to vary much, however I've never been to LOS over the Christmas period. Perhaps the boys are more ambitious tip-wise then.

In terms of quantity there is never a shortage of boys, but in busy times the hot boys can be in demand both in the bars and from GR. You enter a gogo and spot a twink (Im into them also like most older farang gays) with a slim smooth body, large bulge and lovely face. However before you have ordered a drink some other guy has him and is proceeding to enjoy. You are jealous and wait a while hoping that he will leave and allow you to takeover but the off takes place. This happens to me less in low season when the hot boys are more available. But like other posters I dislike finding the gay areas resembling a British holiday resort on a wet November afternoon ( much higher temperature of course). Ive been on Dongtan gay beach in June and found acres of empty chairs with not a boy in speedos to be seen !.

One thing i don't like about Low Season is going into a Gogo and finding I'm the only customer. When Im through the door I don't like immediately turning round and walking out - i suppose I'm too polite, so I order a drink and the boys start putting down their phones and begin reluctantly shuffling. This is a contrast to high season when there would be plenty of customers looking for offs and the boys would put on a show.

Ive recently returned from a 3.5 week visit to Pattaya during which I enjoyed the boys to the full. I did not encounter a 100% dud, but of course some were better than others. I had about eight (memories are now fading and I dont keep a diary !) overnight in my bed and with them I tried to establish their sexual orientation before either offing or making arrangements on GR. Im versatile tending towards bottom so a reliable top was an acceptable specification. I generally used the term "man" which was usually understood but I never posed the question "you like girls or boys". One boy who said he was Man did in fact bottom as well. Versatile did not seem to be a term in use by the boys. With GR boys it is harder to establish their attributes - you cant always rely on the entry and the delay with the text replies and getting answers like "yes" leaves one unconvinced. In a bar you can check them out before offing - feeling their dicks and tongue kissing. However Vinapu's point about "the joy of discovery" resonates with me. Roll on my next trip !.

I agree with Vinapu about boys performing better after the first session. This is often my experience. With the first off there is the unfamiliar factor - he doesn't know me and what I like (Im more bottom and like prolonged kissing). I don't know how he is going to perform and whether there will any problems. On subsequent dates he knows I will be a good tipper, especially for overnights and will treat him well and that I stay in good hotels and apartments. I make relatively short visits (3 or 4 weeks) to LOS, especially Pattaya, for gay sex. I tend to be butterfly in my first week but then retain boys for longer periods, during which I get to know them as more than a sex object, and occasionally take them to the beach or even to Koh Samet. Im always realistic. I know as an older gay there is a big gap between me and a 18-25 Thai Boy !.

It must be at least four years since Euro Boys gogo closed. Not sure how long it was open. I recall it was rather a small place with mirroirs and chrome fittings. Didnt the boys dance holding ropes dangling from the ceiling, wearing shorts with lace up sides. There were benchs running down the sides with the dancers in the middle. The bar was towards the back. Boys were mainly skinny twinks.

I was in Pattaya from early March for three weeks and it was noticeable during that period the reduction in the number of gay farangs, like myself, on Dongtan Beach. Of course there is a corresponding reduction in the number of boys in town looking to service them. Its the old supply and demand equation !. April is the month of Songcran when I avoid Thailand like the plague.

Its actually quite difficult to get a picture or movie with the camera working remote. I once bought a small tripod to make it easier to get myself and the boy in the picture. Previous efforts with the camera balanced on a table or chair were a failure. Even then the results were poor with the both of us only partly shown. Also concentrating on getting the photography right caused failure of erections and lack of penetration !.

I always stay at the Tarntawan. Nice hotel and is known as a gay hotel. No problems with overnight boys.

Lovethailand Didn't try the internet whilst on Samet. I went with a gay friend and we both took boys from Pattaya. We only stayed one night and bought an inclusive trip from Malibu.

Im in Pattaya just now. The place seems to be making the transition to low season. One big difference compared with last year when I was here is the absence of Russians. Obviously they are suffering with the decline in the value of the rouble. They are big buyers of property here in Thailand and I noticed yesterday when I was in a high building that none of the numerous cranes on half completed buildings seemed to be working. Perhaps this is also a symptom. Its very pleasant in Sunee sitting in the open air bars after the heat of the day. Sunny Boys gogo is usually busy and has boys to suite most tastes. Dongtan Beach is busy but has few unaccompanied boys. However encroachment by Russian families and females is not so apparent as before. I went to Samet last year. The beaches are beautiful but there is no obvious gay scene.

I started reading this thread not noticing it was started 7 years ago. It was only when I saw the mention of the Kaos gogo that I realised. I had discovered Thailand and Pattaya the previous year and Kaos was a main source for me to off boys. I remember also Jimmy Jimmy James and the other Sunee gogos. Also picking up boys from the gay beach is mentioned and I used find this a good source of bed companions. No doubt GR and other dating sites have had a major impact on the gay commercial sex scene, but bars will continue to attract customers, despite inflationary price increases. I very much look forward to my trips, one of which starts later this month.

Thanks Up2u. Thought so. Pity, I love to see boys in speedos, preferable like those in your pictures or my avatur. Whilst sitting on the beach Ive used the wifi to invite GR boys occasionally to join me there. Sometimes they have come fairly quickly but never in speedos.

Im due in Pats in just over 2 weeks. I would love to hear that the beach is adorned with many boys like the two in Up2u's pictures. That used to be common 7 or 8 years ago before GR made a big impact. Any update ?. The pool at Sansuck can attract unaccompanied boys in high season willing to accompany customers into the dark maze for a consideration (against the house rules of course).

Thanks z909 We need more like him at Dongtan

Oh well neiver mind about the fat lady what i want to see in my next trip is the boy wearing those speedos in your avatur.

Whats this board coming to !. Now we have been infitrated !. Do we allow bisexuals ?. Tmax I enjoyed your account of your visit to Adonis. You wanted to be topped and the boy looked worrying over endowed. I have often had that experience and find it better to be on my stomach and allow the boy to lube me gradually probe for the entry.

I think either section 14 or 15 must be Rits. I generally sit just past the toilet block. Any sightings of the fat lady by the way ?. She wasnt there during my September trip.