Travellerdave

In terms of quantity there is never a shortage of boys, but in busy times the hot boys can be in demand both in the bars and from GR. You enter a gogo and spot a twink (Im into them also like most older farang gays) with a slim smooth body, large bulge and lovely face. However before you have ordered a drink some other guy has him and is proceeding to enjoy. You are jealous and wait a while hoping that he will leave and allow you to takeover but the off takes place. This happens to me less in low season when the hot boys are more available. But like other posters I dislike finding the gay areas resembling a British holiday resort on a wet November afternoon ( much higher temperature of course). Ive been on Dongtan gay beach in June and found acres of empty chairs with not a boy in speedos to be seen !.

One thing i don't like about Low Season is going into a Gogo and finding I'm the only customer. When Im through the door I don't like immediately turning round and walking out - i suppose I'm too polite, so I order a drink and the boys start putting down their phones and begin reluctantly shuffling. This is a contrast to high season when there would be plenty of customers looking for offs and the boys would put on a show.

Ive recently returned from a 3.5 week visit to Pattaya during which I enjoyed the boys to the full. I did not encounter a 100% dud, but of course some were better than others. I had about eight (memories are now fading and I dont keep a diary !) overnight in my bed and with them I tried to establish their sexual orientation before either offing or making arrangements on GR. Im versatile tending towards bottom so a reliable top was an acceptable specification. I generally used the term "man" which was usually understood but I never posed the question "you like girls or boys". One boy who said he was Man did in fact bottom as well. Versatile did not seem to be a term in use by the boys. With GR boys it is harder to establish their attributes - you cant always rely on the entry and the delay with the text replies and getting answers like "yes" leaves one unconvinced. In a bar you can check them out before offing - feeling their dicks and tongue kissing. However Vinapu's point about "the joy of discovery" resonates with me. Roll on my next trip !.

I agree with Vinapu about boys performing better after the first session. This is often my experience. With the first off there is the unfamiliar factor - he doesn't know me and what I like (Im more bottom and like prolonged kissing). I don't know how he is going to perform and whether there will any problems. On subsequent dates he knows I will be a good tipper, especially for overnights and will treat him well and that I stay in good hotels and apartments. I make relatively short visits (3 or 4 weeks) to LOS, especially Pattaya, for gay sex. I tend to be butterfly in my first week but then retain boys for longer periods, during which I get to know them as more than a sex object, and occasionally take them to the beach or even to Koh Samet. Im always realistic. I know as an older gay there is a big gap between me and a 18-25 Thai Boy !.

It must be at least four years since Euro Boys gogo closed. Not sure how long it was open. I recall it was rather a small place with mirroirs and chrome fittings. Didnt the boys dance holding ropes dangling from the ceiling, wearing shorts with lace up sides. There were benchs running down the sides with the dancers in the middle. The bar was towards the back. Boys were mainly skinny twinks.

I was in Pattaya from early March for three weeks and it was noticeable during that period the reduction in the number of gay farangs, like myself, on Dongtan Beach. Of course there is a corresponding reduction in the number of boys in town looking to service them. Its the old supply and demand equation !. April is the month of Songcran when I avoid Thailand like the plague.

Its actually quite difficult to get a picture or movie with the camera working remote. I once bought a small tripod to make it easier to get myself and the boy in the picture. Previous efforts with the camera balanced on a table or chair were a failure. Even then the results were poor with the both of us only partly shown. Also concentrating on getting the photography right caused failure of erections and lack of penetration !.

I always stay at the Tarntawan. Nice hotel and is known as a gay hotel. No problems with overnight boys.

Lovethailand Didn't try the internet whilst on Samet. I went with a gay friend and we both took boys from Pattaya. We only stayed one night and bought an inclusive trip from Malibu.

Im in Pattaya just now. The place seems to be making the transition to low season. One big difference compared with last year when I was here is the absence of Russians. Obviously they are suffering with the decline in the value of the rouble. They are big buyers of property here in Thailand and I noticed yesterday when I was in a high building that none of the numerous cranes on half completed buildings seemed to be working. Perhaps this is also a symptom. Its very pleasant in Sunee sitting in the open air bars after the heat of the day. Sunny Boys gogo is usually busy and has boys to suite most tastes. Dongtan Beach is busy but has few unaccompanied boys. However encroachment by Russian families and females is not so apparent as before. I went to Samet last year. The beaches are beautiful but there is no obvious gay scene.

I started reading this thread not noticing it was started 7 years ago. It was only when I saw the mention of the Kaos gogo that I realised. I had discovered Thailand and Pattaya the previous year and Kaos was a main source for me to off boys. I remember also Jimmy Jimmy James and the other Sunee gogos. Also picking up boys from the gay beach is mentioned and I used find this a good source of bed companions. No doubt GR and other dating sites have had a major impact on the gay commercial sex scene, but bars will continue to attract customers, despite inflationary price increases. I very much look forward to my trips, one of which starts later this month.

Thanks Up2u. Thought so. Pity, I love to see boys in speedos, preferable like those in your pictures or my avatur. Whilst sitting on the beach Ive used the wifi to invite GR boys occasionally to join me there. Sometimes they have come fairly quickly but never in speedos.

Im due in Pats in just over 2 weeks. I would love to hear that the beach is adorned with many boys like the two in Up2u's pictures. That used to be common 7 or 8 years ago before GR made a big impact. Any update ?. The pool at Sansuck can attract unaccompanied boys in high season willing to accompany customers into the dark maze for a consideration (against the house rules of course).

Thanks z909 We need more like him at Dongtan

Oh well neiver mind about the fat lady what i want to see in my next trip is the boy wearing those speedos in your avatur.

Whats this board coming to !. Now we have been infitrated !. Do we allow bisexuals ?. Tmax I enjoyed your account of your visit to Adonis. You wanted to be topped and the boy looked worrying over endowed. I have often had that experience and find it better to be on my stomach and allow the boy to lube me gradually probe for the entry.

I think either section 14 or 15 must be Rits. I generally sit just past the toilet block. Any sightings of the fat lady by the way ?. She wasnt there during my September trip.

I would love to be on Dongtan Beach just now. Ive just looked out of my window here in -5 deg England and see a frozen scene. Not sure if I will be able to drive my car up the road. Stil im consoled that I will be going to Thailand in four weeks. I dont think I have a colonial mentality but I am very concerned about access to cheap Thai sex workers. I need to take full advantage before they disappear.

Farangyai... Yes thats a common situation. You sit with a boy in a bar or gogo and buy him a drink. Hes attractive and you are intending to off one for the night. However its only 9pm and you dont want him with you for the next few hours as maybe you will see another even more hot and maybe something will occur to change your mind. You tell him "maybe" which suits you but not him. He later is disappointed and resentfull that you didn't turn up. Of course it can go the other way - you go back later and are disappointed that he has been offed or maybe he is sat with another customer who is fondling him, and you go back to the hotel to sleep alone.

Over the years I have had very few problems about tips and money. I put this down to usually paying at the top end of the going rate and also very often agreeing the figure beforehand. I remember however a difficult confrontation with a boy I offed from Kaos in Pattaya about seven years ago. It was my final night before going home and I wasn't intending to have a boy overnight but when I visited a gogo i saw a really gorgeous twink who agreed to go with me for 2000 LT. The sex was great with kissing, rimming, sucking and finally me topping him. He went in the shower and emerged seeing me preparing another condom for use in the morning (I dont like fumbling about in the dark doing this). He said What you do - I go - you pay me now. I pointed out that the agreement was for LT and offered him 1500. He came out with a load of abuse and was quite threatening. In the end I had to pay the 2000 and was a little shaken by the experience. I left Pattaya early next day even though i had an evening flight because I know its wise not to get Thais angry.

The policy of hotels regarding boy guests varies. Some insist on retaining the ID card. One hotel even gave me a form to sign when I returned with a boy to stay overnight. Some check that everything is OK before giving the card back, although I normally accompany the boy to reception for this purpose. Some hotels are not bothered whether cards are handed in or not and others find holding the cards a nuisance. More places are using plastic cards to open the room door which are not handed in at reception but are retained by the guest. Sometimes particularly late at night or at small guesthouses you find nobody at reception or the guy is fast asleep. It can be reassuring when the card is properly checked that you havent acquired an under age boy.

I stayed at the Malaysia about three years ago for a couple of nights. It was recommended to me as a budget gay friendly place and so it proved. I had a boy overnight once. However I havent stayed there since discovering the Tarntawan, which in my opinion is well worth the extra baht (800 about per night ?). 800 baht can vanish in the blink of an eye in bars and gogo's !.

Sorry guys did I give the impression that one has to finish jogging in the park at 6 pm when the National Anthem is played ?. Of course when the music stops you can get going again and probably you will go faster as a result of the short rest !.

I go jogging in Lumpini Park whilst in Bkk staying at tye Tarntawan Hotel. Loads of runners at dusk from 4.30pm, although you have to stop at 6.00 pm for the national anthem. About 2 miles round so 3 laps for me is a good run.

Ive just noticed this short thread. Im on the verge of making a reservation for my forthcoming trip to Pattaya. I wonder if any members have stayed there in high season ?. I am slightly wary of staying there if its full of Russians (ive nothing particularly against them but they are not very friendly). I prefer to stay in gay hotels and the Sansuk is 100%. Hotels in Boystown and Sunee suffer from noise at night and I am sensitive to that. But I want to be reasonable close to those areas and dont stay in Jomtien. In September when I stayed at Sansuk it was quiet but easy to get to on a hired motor bike often bringing back boys. It was nice in the morning floricking in the pool with my overnight boyfriend.