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probably you right about Cam being an exception rather than norm but by no means unique. I know at least 3 guys ( 1 Cambodian and 2 Lao ) who during their bar career built houses for themselves or their families in their respective villages. Generally boys are not that good with finances but lets to be honest - where they were supposed to learn money management skills if they almost exclusively came from hand-to-mouth environments ?

Day 17 In the morning breakfast at Foodland together , again very modest choice by the boy. I don’t mind spending this or that on the meals but I want them to clear what they ordered and , if choosing something more expensive - to seek my approval. I know few boys which I like quite a lot but don’t approve their restaurant habits and in their case I usually tell them that I have only that much for our meals so watch what you order please. Definitely not a case with my guy from last night and I liked it that way. Before I set off for this trip I was thinking about going to Pattaya to sample new G’Bangkok location there but knowing that in second week I will be travelling almost every 2nd day ( Sun, Wed , Fri, Sun ) I resolved to decide at the last minute. ( For uninitiated : G’Bangkok is name of restaurant owned by Guido and his cat. Pattaya location is extension of original, still opened location in Silom , soi 4) I had another reason to go , namely to see clingy guy I offed from ToyBoys on my last trip in July I was very happy with on both nights. Warned bkkmfj about my uncertain plans , decide to keep my room in Raya for mt last 3 nights , booked room at Zing, half way between Pattaya and Jomtien for today , knowing that id I resign , loss will be modest (25$) and even booked 12 pm ticket for bus from Swampy to Jomtien. After returning from Foodland I decided to go , packed whatever I needed for such short trip, sent message to bkkmfj that I’m coming and went to the airport . In 2 hrs I was at Jomtien bus station , 20 minutes of that time was taken to combat traffic in the city itself. It was bit concerning as very heavy clouds were gathering over city. I bought ticket for return tomorrow right away , took songtaew to the hotel and miracle of miracles , very second I entered lobby , heavens opened but I was on dry side. It was pouring extensively for about 2 hours. It stopped just in time Bkkmfj was supposed to show up. I find him in good spirits so next our we spent in the lobby and them in my room exchanging news old and new and then we set off for longish walk down to the Guido’s new place. My impression were reported and illustrated here on page 3 : The opening of Guidos - Page 4 - Gay Pattaya - Gay Guides Forum Guido seemed to be very happy to see us , place was quite busy for Monday evening , actually for every evening , we liked food and ambiance so I’m glad I made an effort to see old forum friend and sample Guido’s new offerings. Filled with excellent food we took another long walk along beach where we parted ways, Bkkmfj went home and I continued toward Jomtien Complex. It was not very busy , I did not spot familiar faces nor any guys who I would be interested in so I hopped aboard songtaew and went to Pattaya proper. Boyztown not very busy, few freelance masseurs , at least two of them of ‘ of interest” grade. My guy from ToyBoys was eating outside and jumped immediately to welcome me and invite inside but I promised I will be back as I wanted to see show at XBoys first. I noticed that old , corner location of BoyzBoyZBoyz is opened but nobody inside and only then I realized that they moved to former Music Bar location under Le Café Royale hotel. Being limited with time , I left surveying new premises to the next trip . X boys at 10 pm, was quite packed. Show started almost immediately . Quality of boys very variable but in hour of need I’d grade few boys as offable. Definitely everybody was friendly and not shy . I was happy to see veteran A is still there, he recognized me as well planting kiss on me at the same time I performed vinapu tuck on him. Lots of flesh to be seen, cocks galore, definitely most progressive bar of them all. B Boys did their number as always but there were only 4 of them and only one I recognized from previous crew, fortunately , one most handsome. ( yes bkkmfj, THAT one ) . At 11 pm I went to Toy Boys again, about 8 boys in the stage trying to bring an attention to themselves in very friendly manner but I had already my assignement. Bought him a drink , he agreed to long time , “ just like before” he said and soon we were on our way to Zing. Since ‘like before ‘ was mentioned my expectancies were very high, indeed just like before but it did not meant to be . It did not take long before complain “ I want to sleep “ was logged countered with my ‘really? But my mood was already damped. Only closer to the morning he become more active but even that not to a degree I was familiar with when we were together in July. Classic case of entitlement , “ he offed me already and now I can try to get with as little as possible”. When at 6 he announced he must to leave, it was silent “ thanks God” from me. Big disappointment and he must to realize it as during day and next day he sent me few very revealing clips , meaning likely as consolation prize but for me it was too late. I did not even bother to respond. What a change in 2 months sighted I getting ready for the breakfast. Waste of money and opportunity of good night sleep

typical case when reaction can not be given . I like that our experience was identical so should give you 'like". Since you confirmed it's indeed the same guy , I should give 'sad" again. I'm sad today ever since I read your original post. That was guy I quoted few times already : " you are so boring " , 'will you see me tonight again ? " , " yes , of course , why not ?" all I can say now is : Arm, may God let you rest in peace

wise ?

fully agreed as one cant drink chicken with cashew nuts, neither together nor separately but one can drink gin and then gin. I did not try to take cheap shot at you with my pad krapow comment , simply brought attention to well known fact that people tastes vary . Not being fan of pad krapow if only because it's usually too spicy for my taste . Agree though that is inexpensive and filling dish, too pedestrian for people who despise seat 63 K on the airplane though

nice to be back at UNESCO World Heritage place awarded 71/2 stars by Michelin

Day 16 Quick packing , tuk tuk to bus stop in front of train station ( 4000 ) , bus arrived quite soon (1500) and in 50 minutes I was in the new , shiny . Enough time for some breakfast ( USD are gone but credit card worked) and check -in. They are introducing automatic gates but for now available to certain nationalities only . I did not quality but there was no line to traditional immigration. No trace in passport that I was in Cambodia this time, no stamps and visa was just on piece of paper. Flight departed on time at 11 am and was not full so my assigned aisle seat easily become window one, not that it made much of difference due to poor visibility but place where Chao Praya joins the sea looked impressive from above. This time I used automatic gates, no issues , through in 1 minute. New SIM as previous one expired and soon I was on my way to Raya where again I got the same room I had before. Nice to be home I thought on my way to Foodland to treat myself with chicken with cashews and French onion soup (200 total). I did some walking and around 7 pm I returned to Foodland for a meetup with our former contributor Reader who arrived in Bangkok few days ago. We had plenty to talk about and conversation was occasionally interrupted by sightings of bar boys going to work. After we split I returned to the hotel to catch up with computer stuff and at 10 pm I marched ( floridarob , did you hear that ?) to my currently most favorite venue Jupiter. I was first customer tonight , warmly welcomed by Pooppy , the singer so promptly rewarded him with red not for good start. Soon bar started filling up. My Boy Of Interest came to welcome me so I offered him a drink. He diplomatically did not press me for an off tonight but surely I found a message to this effect on my phone later on. I tipped three guys during walkabout , just for good looks . two of them returned smile during next walk , one did not and that was one I like look of the most out of those 3 rewarded. After show I went to Goodboys as I had some designs on BT . Unfortunately fortunately he was sitting with some couple, did not even notice me until later but another guy spotted me and came to ask for drink. He was absent for some time owing to sad family circumstances ( his sister died I learned later from mamasan). Instead of drink I gave him 500 tip. He wanted me to off him and even mamasan intervened saying he did not have an off since retuning week ago. I sensed desperation when tip he quoted for Long Time was well, well below norm so I came to my senses and approved an idea. I told him he will get my normal tip, I would feel bad if I took advantage of such situation. I have soft spot for him as when he was in Jupiter few years ago he was first ever Jupiter boy who actually smiled at me on his own will . in a small sense , historical person. Of course as soon as we sealed the deal BT came and said he will go with client now but will be back in 30 minutes because ‘ I know him “ he said . Too late. We went to Foodland where he ordered water and cheapest Thai dish they have on the menu and there home where I must say I was greatly rewarded by his affection. Almost real boyfriend experience, shocking considering age difference but it was great encounter. What I’m saying ? GREAT ENCOUNTER I should shout. It was easy to keep my tip promise.

you were drinking and I was climbing on the same day, all rice paddies submerged after rains

worst part of that is that Khmer Rouge were also Cambodian people and as result many if not most families there may be nursing dark secrets. Pol Pot cremation place is still visible and maitained near Anlong Veng . In that city itself one may still visit house ( after paying 1$ admission fee) of Ta Mok , chief of security there in that period, obviously remembered , at least by some quite fondly. As somebody succinctly said, first thay murdered parents and then built orphanages for their children. It's all more complex than we are able to comprehend, including shameful Western support for Khmer Rouge government after they were overthrown by Vietnamese , even if all their atrocities become almost immediately known. You rightly are staying out of this subject when dealing with people thare

quite possible that less schooling in Siem Reap comes from fact of it being tourist mecca with corresponding job opportunities in that sector . Why to learn trade if one can easily make living waiting tables or driving tuk tuk thinking may go ?

is this even possible? either / or but both ?

people may be stupid but not THAT stupid

and only 59 to 2028

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those are NOT type of comments writers of trip report like to hear

it looks tasty and well presented but in reality what ' good food" means | wonder ? No offence to you or ichigo but how one can like pad krapow ?

and then poop ?

keep in mind they made it there already and you , presumably much younger, only have a chance, being lotto winner and player are not the same things

no , no single seats. Pattaya bound bus stop is beside gate 8 at Swampy, right where coupon restaurant is. One floor up from train station

no, finally you guys came to realize that are better, wallet friendly , ways to improve one's self esteem than wasting money on business class and taxis to / from Pattaya . I don't use travellers cheques , perhaps once in mid 90ties and not in Thailand but when doing my own laundry , yes , daily. If one travels with just 3 shirts and 3 undergarments it's only sensible thing to do , short of buying new everyday or using the same for a whole trip, yuck. By the way , I have 3 identical travel shirts and if you see me in the same next day doesn't really mean it is the same although it may be as they dry in 2 hrs in the room conditions. Hight tech is sometimes usefull

I'm soooo proud that you finally braved on such an adventure. My thought and prayer will be with you on Tuesday. I assume you are taking Jomtien bus to the airport. In case you don't know , one may buy a ticket i day in advance. on the way to Swampy there are free seats so if you want specific seat , come early . Reminder for others not in the know, that is airport bus but also fast way to get go Bangkok itself by public transport . Once on songtaew I met gentleman who , when I told him I'm not taking any flight , just goin to Bangkok by airport bus , shockingly admitted that in several years of coming there such an option never crossed his mind.

I'm surprised staff knows at all as those things often go unannounced. I once offed veteran guy from Zeus bar in soi Twilight and next evening when passing by door were wide opened , bar emptied and old owner of Dreamboys on other side of soi told me they went out of business. both him and boy in question I met day or two later seemed to be taken by surprise.

I was there on Monday about 3 weeks ago and bar was full as well so it's not lack of patronage which made them thinking about closing. Excessive tea money requests , rent hike or simply owner trying to get out of business for whatever reason may be completely different matter

Oh my God, if that is THAT Arm, #thirty something from Dreamboys, my heart is bleeding. We met only twice , two nights in row and both were among my best 10 encounters ever. Charming , engaging , patient and very well built , all was there. He did not made an impression he will be druggie, rather he knew quite well what he wants in life and working in bar was just short stop to make some cash. On next visit he disappeared from the scene and I was told he went to Phuket. Both times before going home we stopped at his friend's bar in that short soi where Vassa bar used to be so your post makes painful sense. Hope it's just another Arm but don't believe in what I'm saying. If true he will be only guy I'm met closely I'm award about death of but over years I heard about few cases of bar boys who were no longer there and when I asked about them , I was told that are gone for good.

I posted combined report of my recent trip to Cambodia and Thailand in Thailand section. If you are interested in Cambodian part you may look there , starting from page 2, Day 7 Failed attempt at celibacy - trip to Thailand and Cambodia in October 2026 - Page 3 - Gay Thailand - Gay Guides Forum