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While you are correct , at least in Thailand there seem very few of this kind of problems with apps boys reported. Indeed there are some members here who switched to apps entirely and seem to be happy with an idea. I'm in your camp though and prefer to see whom I hire even if it cost more, I like that smile. My apps experience is very limited and never dealt with fake profile but in two cases I recall I'd not hire guy who showed at door if I saw him in flesh before hand, both too fem. But also had case of guy who turned out looking much better than his picture. During pandemic when bars were closed apps were life saver for working boys.

certainly some do but that is not excuse for other farangs or boys indeed to do the same. Colouring age , height or weight is not the same lie category as using somebody else's profile although at end of day what counts is whoever shows at our door. Lie may turn immaterial if we like whom we see

I got it, my comment was more related to what Peter said. Highly unlikely that impostor used Tee 24 profile without his knowledge though

meeting outside is good idea and we need to keep in mind that fact boy doesn't even look remotely as one in his profile in apps doesn't mean he looks bad or will perform badly. Never happened to me with my very limited apps experience but I know at least 2 of our members who landed good fun that way taking chance and agrreing to takje guy who did not look as in his profile. It may be other way around too , Besty my Grindr masseur looked much better in flesh than in his profile picture

for newcomers to Bangkok , that's MahaNakhon building You can see famous glass with some insects on it to the left. Those insects are actually people on that glass. Picture taken from soi connecting Furama Sathorn Hotel with Chong Nonsi BTS ( elevated rail, visible stairs ) station

It's Unesco World Heritage 7.5 Michelin Stars Foodland Patpong ! Glad to see breakfast price stays the same ( it was raised between May and Oct ) Have fun, I wish I was there !

on another hand we can't be paranoid. On my last trip one of patrons, elderly lady, offered me a drink in Space Hair bar in Phnom Penh. I found it weird as we did not even exchange glances, she was sitting at different table with her crowd. I gulped it anyways and only then thought about spike possibility but no, all was good . When I was leaving and thanked her again she told me that she liked way I was interacting with guys I was drinking with and said the same I heard before from waitress in Happy Beer restaurant on Surwong " we are the same , I like boys and you like boys". so sometimes we are watched not even knowing that

I do to, too bad you couldn't come , it would triple fun

we are truly twin brothers, those two are something and not only in physical sense but also great personalities

Day 3 After such busy and fun filled day I slept like a baby till almost 8 am. Line message from my friend asking about breakfast together was already in so I speed up in view that he expects HC to arrive from Pattaya well before noon. Of course breakfast took place in Unesco as we started to call world famous UNESCO heritage designated 7.5 stars Foodland Patpong. He is full of expectancy about HC as he heard so many good things about him, from me as well as others. I warned him that fact I like somebody doesn’t meant he will too even if we like exactly the same types of guys and so far our opinions about guys are 100% aligned. But I feel excitement too since as I said I like the guy even if I feel it’s one sided. After breakfast we went our ways confirming to be in contact about Mahanakhon as we planned yesterday. Shortly after noon K from Tawan showed up as promised for a bit of steam. I noticed he become much bulkier than in May and he confirmed. I warned him jokingly that while I like big boys I don’t like them too big and asked him not to overdo it like and I gave example of one of guys from his bar. Neither of us was in rush until we start feeling hungry. It turned to be well co-ordinated with my friend and HC as soon Line message come that they are hungry to and HC is proposing some seafood buffet place in Icon Siam. In great company I can even eat seafood which normally I don’t, tending to be allergic to it and in Thailand I always have ZYRTEC, allergy relief on me. Shortly we meet downstairs and HC was very surprised to see that guy my friend told him will be going with them and his boy turned out to be me. It was nice to be back in his embraces even for short moment but long enough to notice that he lost a bit of his weight and muscle mass which he confirmed when I asked still proudly noticing he doesn’t have a gram of fat on him . (Soon I will have an opportunity to check that it’s true as we learn in due course). We took BTS to first station on Thonburi side , forgot her name (Krung Thonburi? ) and from there short ride by Golden Line , just one station requiring separate ticket for 15 baht. Golden Line is run by unmanned trains by the way. Restaurant we were heading to was not opened yet so our boys suggested nearby Japanese place and I wondered how come they know such upscale places. It must be their affluent clients taking them there , no doubt. It was kind of fun, food was delivered by robots, tasted great but portions were not that big and I had suspicions that I was only one in our gang who left table feeling kind of full. Bill was sizable as expected, I got quiet reflection that Madrid would be much better option for 1/3 of price but said nothing. It was one thing which caused me to scratch my head discretely. There were 4 of us but dinner conversation was held by K, my friend and me. HC spent all his time on his smartphone which I found odd and indeed bit disrespectful to his host, my friend, never mind K and me. We exchanged knowing glances with my friend and I knew something doesn’t work as it should. Going back to Silom civilization we took mall’s ferry to Saphan Taksin and from there BTS to Chong Nonsi, on the train K announced he is passing MahaNakhon option since he has some business to take care of so it was only three of us who went there. Visibility was good , both boys bravely but visibly uncomfortably stepped on the glass so I had fun not only being there but also watching their trepidations. Trick is , when stepping on the glass floor to look straight ahead , not at chasm under your feet but it seems it easier said than done. My friend , being in his own words not as much butterfly as helicopter, was planning to send HC back to Pattaya tomorrow and since well before start of this trip I was planning to go tomorrow to Pattaya by taxi I told him I will take HC with me , my pleasure indeed. In the hotel both gentlemen went their way and I went to my floor to ponder my next step. Inside room immediately got idea and called V, guy whom my friend recommended back in Dec when we both were in Crown Plaza. He is not a bar nor massage guy but not averse to supplementing his income by keeping guys a company. Great guy with great personality and no nonsense attitude. Other attributes are nothing to sneeze at either. I Lined him, answer was brief “where you are ? , I will come at 6”. We had 1.5 hr of fun, decided he will stay with me till morning to chase away midnight ghosts but in meantime we need to eat something. Being earthly , modest guy he suggested UNESCO i.e Foodland and there he asked if we can go to see the show at Dreamboys. He used to work there briefly but did not like it and found regular job but somehow still has pull to visit bars. I was actually happy since it was my first visit there after their move to former Lucky Boy premises. As soon as we entered and sat down who is smiling at me ?, Soviet who preferred dances to my charms last night and Dit, guy I had reunion with in May, known to me since early days of Roman Empire or 2013 , whatever comes later. Invited both , offered drinks , warned that tonight I’m busy pointing at V who promptly dismissed two boys solution suggested cheekily by Soviet. Tipped 200 each for their troubles of course by way of putting notes deep in their undies, so called by Wikipedia ‘ vinapu tuck”. We watched show which was kind of so-so. Boy parade after show was impressive due to sheer number of boys , perhaps more than 50 but truth to be told quite a few of them are well past ‘best before “ date and several I remembered from various bars in half forgotten already soi Twilight. Honestly I have doubts some of them get ever offed but what do I know? Of course at least half , may be more, were quite to very attractive, great number brings great choice, right? At midnight V and I left and on departure I forced another 100 into undies (yes, vinapu tuck again) of one whom I considered most attractive and who I remember from New Twilight bar visit in May. Day 3 ending in V embraces, one can’t ask for much more and there’s no need for more indeed. Truly comforting , no drama, specimen of man.

I don't thing 1000 for short time in Pattaya is suspicious , specially on apps 1500 is rater upper range, Bangkok is another story

subcontracting profile look as plausible explanation. In Cambodia lots of Grindr profiles have obviuosly non-owners pictures , I found few featuring photos of popular BL actors and even one featuring pcs of one of Moonlight most popular models. Some profiles have even disclaimer " profile photo not mine" . I don't treat those antics there as deceiving , rather I think boys want to be anonymous as much as they can, specially in smaller places like Siem Reap.

after having two excellent meets during day I was Ok having good night sleep alone

freedom of choice I guess. Why poor, it saved me 3000-4000, I look at bright side. On most serious note, twink rejected me because I thought I only off long time and he , having full time job is not available for that. We cleared that issue few days later. Dum learned from his bar friend how much he got even if I told him to be quiet and wanted the same , that's my guess. Soviet probably did not want to lose face to his friends he promised to go to dances with, again my guess. I don't take those things personally, after all we are summarily rejecting guys every night we are in bars.

I always bypass bar managers in any bar and prefer to call boys over and / or tip them myself. Only exception is Jupiter because often boys are tucked somewhere in the corner or upstairs and it's hard to make an eye contact

Day 2 In the morning my friend and I went to world famous Foodland for breakfast and information exchange. It looks that we both were happy with our Jupiter guys last night. Then, still talking on the way, we went to XOne to exchange some money. Good news , he got contact of HC he is pursuing and I hope to see too so things are getting even more interesting. Then we went our own ways but I got that bright idea to have pizza lunch in Madrid’s Tavern new location, Lined him and he happily agreed so early afternoon we took taxi from Raya for short hop to Charoen Krung soi 49. For those familiar with that area , it almost across the street from Asuncion Cathedral compound. Soi is narrow so we walked it’s length from main street, it’s just literally 3-4 minutes and found Madrid at end of soi facing elevated highway. If you are not privy with Madrid story- it was famous restaurant in Patpong 1, during Vietnam war it was apparently den of spies and one must admit long after maintained unique atmosphere and ambiance with long, traditional bar. Two things colluded – covid and owner’s mother death and she decided to move it to new location. Ambiance is gone , it’s now regular looking restaurant but good news, pizza tastes all the same and for me it’s best pizza in the world. Over lunch my friend shared great news, HC responded to him immediately and it looks may arrive as early as tomorrow morning. He was happy and so did I since HC is object of my secret adoration which I haste to say looks like one way street i.e I adore him but not quite other way around and our meeting in May was kind of mixed blessing. It disappointed me a bit but not diminished adoration it seems, lol. Returning I suggested we take BTS from Saphan Taksin station and indeed is pretty short walk there from soi 49. Shortly after we arrived in hotel my expected guest , arranged in the morning showed up – Besty , my Grindr masseur I engaged services of 3 times in May. I like him and his massage in any order and what is more important , it looks he likes me too, I could feel it very minute we embraced. His only flaw is he doesn’t do long time. Both his massage and very presence energized me and I need dose of it since soon after we had good bye embraces I expected another guest , former model X. So far he never disappointed and today he left me as happy as always as he is not only outstandingly built hunk but also speaks good English and is very interesting conversationalist. Not that I brought him to have conversation but bonus is always welcomed. And as most straight guys in the business his services are extremely professional so extortionate fee he is charging me is well earned and deserved. He suggested we have dinner together in G’Bangkok in soi 4 as since I introduced him to their offerings last trip he seems to like German fare for a change. He also agreed I invite farang friend to join us so I Lined anddy from our forum who immediately responded that is on his way. Nice food , nice company and fun conversation. At one point X went his way and anddy and I went to Moonlight on my suggestion since I knew my friend will be there. He was indeed inside with his local friend (in real sense ). What surprised me was that quite a few staff members as well as boys recognized me smiling broadly , likely smelling freshly delivered ATM. A, king of all hunks came to embrace us smiling as he knows all three of us and pre-emptively told us he is already booked tonight which was fine since we had our own plans set already. My friend announced that HC is coming to see him tomorrow so we decided to go to MahaNakhon at one point of day to entertain us and our guests since I expect K from Tawan to see me mid-day tomorrow. Show was quite long tonight and music too loud so when we left bar after midnight I was kind of relieved. We went toward Tawan and as usual after bar is closed (for some reason Tawan empties early , right after midnight , perhaps because most boys have day time jobs? ) few of their boys were drinking in the corner, two of them known to me – their resident twink and Dam I can’t waste such opportunity so asked them about going with me , first twink who declined quoting sneezing or something but I told him ‘ it’s Ok , you don’t like me “ so at least he tried to deny even if this was 3rd if not 4th time between May trip and this when he declined my advances. Then I turned to Dam but he requested tip higher than I was prepared to offer and did not budge so I gave both 100 each and marched with my friend to Super A. No customers there but still 3 boys available so we had them sitting with us. It was bit of fun as one of them , Lao boy was very witty and talkative, we checked what they have , one of them had his cock grossly deformed by silicon injection but and end of it we decided to go home empty handed , at least as far as Super A is concerned. Before we left we tipped guys for their time of course. On our way to hotel on Suriwong we saw few boys coming home after their shift in bars and at one moment I noticed Soviet, guy I know for few years from Pattaya and Sabaidee Spa. He was my rescuer in December. When I got drunk in the party there, Sabaidee boys tasked him with escorting me to hotel . I was quite eager to take him home tonight but he declined saying is going to some club with his friends to dance. What a evening , after two excellent encounters in the afternoon , past midnight I got 3 declines in span of perhaps 90 minutes, all from guys more (Dam and Soviet) or less (Tawan twink) known to me. Time to become monk I thought at end of day 2.

guy with tattoo is also on Grindr, face looks familiar and I don't use other apps

I like boy # 6 above /first with black shirt/

you are not alone

this is what I thought once when taking Amsterdam -Montreal flight aboard 747 on New Year day in late 90-ties. Who would fly on such day ? thought I expecting all comforts of half empty plane. To my disappointment it was packed to the last seat , at least in economy

don't spoil coffee lovers fun. It's like boy bars in say Jomtien Complex, there are 30 when 1 or 2 would do. Fans of anything like to have choice and abundance of it. For the record , I'm tea man and tea is my drink of choice but have at least one coffee daily , preferable 3 in 1 by Khao Shong available in Foodland Patpong and numerous 7/11. From last trip I brought home 7 month supply

St 3000 , I don't remember now if that was what he wanted or I paid him extra being so nicely surprised with his performance. My friend who offed more of their boys says that with few exceptions of most popular guys like Boom their rate is regular 2000 contrary to legend of them being expensive , I have no reason to doubt what he is saying. for overnight he quoted 5000 to which I, again being so excited, agreed but luckily for my wallet he found some excuse and changed his mind.

I never thought I will live long enough to second such statement but I do now. I visited Jupiter every trip but never with hope I will find somebody too off from there other than Oud and Mekhin both transplants from Tawan now gone from the scene. But post-covid I got lucky streak, in Dec my first off was from there, so-so but definitely not waste of money and also my last night was spent with their guy, offed because he smiled at me !!! In May I offed HC featuring in this trip shortly as well and while initially I was bit disappointed upon reflection I realized I was stupid in my expectancies, one sided love and stuff , LOL My friend who was staying with me in the same Raya claimed that this trip Jupiter was his best bar and he is fond exactly of the same types and often the same boys I'm. My off this time was very good as I said, guy not only good looking but also very enthusiastic. I almost had repeat on one of following nights when I saw him on the street past bar closing time but unfortunately he was heading for an appointment.

in May, on the last night and following day of my trip I had very good luck with one of their dancers

hopefully you will see better displays in surrounding bars and massages, some gems can be found there