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so do I and waiting for word how you like scene after quite long absence

and so is eating out instead of cooking ourselves that's unfortunate truth but like with all goods and services if there are no takers they disappear from the market. I did not mean to lecture you , even less criticize , just noticed what I think is obvious truth. I'm not much better and on last few trips utilize few contacts I got previously to bypass bar costs but always have in mind what I just said above.

welcome home, too bad I'm not there, meeting with you and jason certainly is worth a sin

my thought exactly but you were first !

some people have all luck in life

I'm neither sporty nor muscular not business but at least ordinary and a guy, lol

first week of November, definitely he was working that day in Dreamboys. I hauled him from the stage. It's strange as Dreamboys have reputation of hiring only Thai boys and he is not. He is busy man as during day he works in Sabaidee Spa and features sometime in their Line feed.

Yes , he is . I'm not holding it against him, why he would prefer old, KFC looking man to you ? But how it turned out it was only chance I could hire him on that trip.

right, one just beside 56Suriwong hotel. On my last trip well past midnight I saw known boy about to cross it , so I suggested he will go with me. He dumped me saying he is going to dances with his friends. There's another crosswalk in from of Wall Street building (one that looks like Greek temple and has spacious 7/11 in first, elevated floor, stairs leading to it are known to feature bar boys from time to time and thus may be considers cruisy )

relax , when comes to worst you can always use stairs leading to and from SalaDaeng station. I never have problem crossing those two streets and actually have fun diving into all that traffic, skill I acquired in Cairo and polished in Saigon.

Welcome to the forum thank you for the lead , I'm planning to check it next time I will be there although at 2100 for me seems to be bit costly. I paid 1540 for room with separate bedroom at Furama Sathorn , breakfast included, in beginning of Nov.

I like that phrase ' sexual program' , charming and poetic indeed. I need to borrow it

glad to hear you are not wasting time. Hope in few years, after last bar will close for lack of customers you won't be complaining about good old days where one could go to the bar and take boy from there .

While you are correct , at least in Thailand there seem very few of this kind of problems with apps boys reported. Indeed there are some members here who switched to apps entirely and seem to be happy with an idea. I'm in your camp though and prefer to see whom I hire even if it cost more, I like that smile. My apps experience is very limited and never dealt with fake profile but in two cases I recall I'd not hire guy who showed at door if I saw him in flesh before hand, both too fem. But also had case of guy who turned out looking much better than his picture. During pandemic when bars were closed apps were life saver for working boys.

certainly some do but that is not excuse for other farangs or boys indeed to do the same. Colouring age , height or weight is not the same lie category as using somebody else's profile although at end of day what counts is whoever shows at our door. Lie may turn immaterial if we like whom we see

I got it, my comment was more related to what Peter said. Highly unlikely that impostor used Tee 24 profile without his knowledge though

meeting outside is good idea and we need to keep in mind that fact boy doesn't even look remotely as one in his profile in apps doesn't mean he looks bad or will perform badly. Never happened to me with my very limited apps experience but I know at least 2 of our members who landed good fun that way taking chance and agrreing to takje guy who did not look as in his profile. It may be other way around too , Besty my Grindr masseur looked much better in flesh than in his profile picture

for newcomers to Bangkok , that's MahaNakhon building You can see famous glass with some insects on it to the left. Those insects are actually people on that glass. Picture taken from soi connecting Furama Sathorn Hotel with Chong Nonsi BTS ( elevated rail, visible stairs ) station

It's Unesco World Heritage 7.5 Michelin Stars Foodland Patpong ! Glad to see breakfast price stays the same ( it was raised between May and Oct ) Have fun, I wish I was there !

on another hand we can't be paranoid. On my last trip one of patrons, elderly lady, offered me a drink in Space Hair bar in Phnom Penh. I found it weird as we did not even exchange glances, she was sitting at different table with her crowd. I gulped it anyways and only then thought about spike possibility but no, all was good . When I was leaving and thanked her again she told me that she liked way I was interacting with guys I was drinking with and said the same I heard before from waitress in Happy Beer restaurant on Surwong " we are the same , I like boys and you like boys". so sometimes we are watched not even knowing that

I do to, too bad you couldn't come , it would triple fun

we are truly twin brothers, those two are something and not only in physical sense but also great personalities

Day 3 After such busy and fun filled day I slept like a baby till almost 8 am. Line message from my friend asking about breakfast together was already in so I speed up in view that he expects HC to arrive from Pattaya well before noon. Of course breakfast took place in Unesco as we started to call world famous UNESCO heritage designated 7.5 stars Foodland Patpong. He is full of expectancy about HC as he heard so many good things about him, from me as well as others. I warned him that fact I like somebody doesn’t meant he will too even if we like exactly the same types of guys and so far our opinions about guys are 100% aligned. But I feel excitement too since as I said I like the guy even if I feel it’s one sided. After breakfast we went our ways confirming to be in contact about Mahanakhon as we planned yesterday. Shortly after noon K from Tawan showed up as promised for a bit of steam. I noticed he become much bulkier than in May and he confirmed. I warned him jokingly that while I like big boys I don’t like them too big and asked him not to overdo it like and I gave example of one of guys from his bar. Neither of us was in rush until we start feeling hungry. It turned to be well co-ordinated with my friend and HC as soon Line message come that they are hungry to and HC is proposing some seafood buffet place in Icon Siam. In great company I can even eat seafood which normally I don’t, tending to be allergic to it and in Thailand I always have ZYRTEC, allergy relief on me. Shortly we meet downstairs and HC was very surprised to see that guy my friend told him will be going with them and his boy turned out to be me. It was nice to be back in his embraces even for short moment but long enough to notice that he lost a bit of his weight and muscle mass which he confirmed when I asked still proudly noticing he doesn’t have a gram of fat on him . (Soon I will have an opportunity to check that it’s true as we learn in due course). We took BTS to first station on Thonburi side , forgot her name (Krung Thonburi? ) and from there short ride by Golden Line , just one station requiring separate ticket for 15 baht. Golden Line is run by unmanned trains by the way. Restaurant we were heading to was not opened yet so our boys suggested nearby Japanese place and I wondered how come they know such upscale places. It must be their affluent clients taking them there , no doubt. It was kind of fun, food was delivered by robots, tasted great but portions were not that big and I had suspicions that I was only one in our gang who left table feeling kind of full. Bill was sizable as expected, I got quiet reflection that Madrid would be much better option for 1/3 of price but said nothing. It was one thing which caused me to scratch my head discretely. There were 4 of us but dinner conversation was held by K, my friend and me. HC spent all his time on his smartphone which I found odd and indeed bit disrespectful to his host, my friend, never mind K and me. We exchanged knowing glances with my friend and I knew something doesn’t work as it should. Going back to Silom civilization we took mall’s ferry to Saphan Taksin and from there BTS to Chong Nonsi, on the train K announced he is passing MahaNakhon option since he has some business to take care of so it was only three of us who went there. Visibility was good , both boys bravely but visibly uncomfortably stepped on the glass so I had fun not only being there but also watching their trepidations. Trick is , when stepping on the glass floor to look straight ahead , not at chasm under your feet but it seems it easier said than done. My friend , being in his own words not as much butterfly as helicopter, was planning to send HC back to Pattaya tomorrow and since well before start of this trip I was planning to go tomorrow to Pattaya by taxi I told him I will take HC with me , my pleasure indeed. In the hotel both gentlemen went their way and I went to my floor to ponder my next step. Inside room immediately got idea and called V, guy whom my friend recommended back in Dec when we both were in Crown Plaza. He is not a bar nor massage guy but not averse to supplementing his income by keeping guys a company. Great guy with great personality and no nonsense attitude. Other attributes are nothing to sneeze at either. I Lined him, answer was brief “where you are ? , I will come at 6”. We had 1.5 hr of fun, decided he will stay with me till morning to chase away midnight ghosts but in meantime we need to eat something. Being earthly , modest guy he suggested UNESCO i.e Foodland and there he asked if we can go to see the show at Dreamboys. He used to work there briefly but did not like it and found regular job but somehow still has pull to visit bars. I was actually happy since it was my first visit there after their move to former Lucky Boy premises. As soon as we entered and sat down who is smiling at me ?, Soviet who preferred dances to my charms last night and Dit, guy I had reunion with in May, known to me since early days of Roman Empire or 2013 , whatever comes later. Invited both , offered drinks , warned that tonight I’m busy pointing at V who promptly dismissed two boys solution suggested cheekily by Soviet. Tipped 200 each for their troubles of course by way of putting notes deep in their undies, so called by Wikipedia ‘ vinapu tuck”. We watched show which was kind of so-so. Boy parade after show was impressive due to sheer number of boys , perhaps more than 50 but truth to be told quite a few of them are well past ‘best before “ date and several I remembered from various bars in half forgotten already soi Twilight. Honestly I have doubts some of them get ever offed but what do I know? Of course at least half , may be more, were quite to very attractive, great number brings great choice, right? At midnight V and I left and on departure I forced another 100 into undies (yes, vinapu tuck again) of one whom I considered most attractive and who I remember from New Twilight bar visit in May. Day 3 ending in V embraces, one can’t ask for much more and there’s no need for more indeed. Truly comforting , no drama, specimen of man.

I don't thing 1000 for short time in Pattaya is suspicious , specially on apps 1500 is rater upper range, Bangkok is another story

subcontracting profile look as plausible explanation. In Cambodia lots of Grindr profiles have obviuosly non-owners pictures , I found few featuring photos of popular BL actors and even one featuring pcs of one of Moonlight most popular models. Some profiles have even disclaimer " profile photo not mine" . I don't treat those antics there as deceiving , rather I think boys want to be anonymous as much as they can, specially in smaller places like Siem Reap.