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OK, 'quite a big bit", bit well deserved

not surprising , 4 countries but more than 400 million people

Gee, I thought it was cat

Yes , Min should get award from PPTPB ( Phnom Penh Tourist Promotion Board )

on my first trip in 2001 I did not know difference between short and long time, read somewhere that tip ( for long time ) of 2000 is generous. So when offed guy from bar to short time room in Suriwong hotel and gave him 2000 because I wanted to be generous , I remember his squeek of joy to this day, day or two later my eyes were opened when boy from BoysBangkok quoted me 1000. Not that I was very active on apps last trip but I can second your findings, out of 2 guys who actually found me on the apps one quoted 1300 another 1500 and one who happened to be my neighbor in hotel also wanted 1500 for not so short time from 3 am till morning. 2000 from bars seems to be what they quoted although some brave ones go to 2500 , whether they are keen on reducing , I did not test but I'm sure most of them will gladly. Discretion in negotiation may be in order as in some bars it seems buys are asked to hold the line so they may say no and then whisper 'ok, ok" Disturbing trend I noticed is the better looking guys want up to 5000 for long time so prospective buyers better be mentally prepared to counteroffer and stand your ground. Some boys will too though, when I said I only can spent 3000 because that's all I have at disposal for tonight one of guys told me that I can pay difference in dollars so I left empty handed, LOL but fortunately LINE provided me with so called V solution

It's exactly why I prefer to fix financial issues before taking off from bar. Doesn't guarantee performance but at least joy killing haggling is avoided. 3000 for short time seems very generous unless guy is built like Adonis and performs very enthusiastically in the room. Clearly guys are trying to make up for the lost time

not only complication but also substantial expense

no, I , being old generation , just don't understand meaning of it

you overestimating me but thank you for noticing that putting trip report actually requires a bit of time. In my case it was time normally devoted to watching Thai BL series completely neglected by me, first because of trip and now because of report. Hope to write at least one more this year God willing

just normal vacations with a bit of whoring

those stickers are taking me to early grave. I hate them. But since boys I mostly like very much use them I keep quiet and suffer in silence. One with hearts farting chicken, third from the left on top is one I hate the most

I did not make any days, report is accurate. Not complete though as I left out most of stuff behind the closed door like ironing , vacuuming , knitting , tea making, yarn spinning etc, you know, stuff everybody does and is so familiar with that doesn't need to hear it again.

we hope for your report

I'll let it go. I wouldn't be that extreme. But you correct, it was not wise on his part since if I had his contact for sure I'll be looking for more in future. I know where to find him but will I bother ? That Shakespearean question. In paid encounters unfortunately from time to time we may have situation when we like guy, it's why we hired him but he just does it for money and all he wants , not necessarily even rushing, to get his money and go.

I'm glad too we could meet after all those years since MahaNakhon trip with Z. Don't forget we had S , guy I offed night before from NewTwilight with us at Grand Palace and wat Po but three did not make crowd either. It was best proof that 'early bird catches the worm is true. Is not secret that while there I make notes basically every time I return to my room to make putting such report easier and more accurate and yes, while writing I re-lived all those moments again. Healthy and can do approach to vacation everywhere for me is to identify what I can afford , both physically and financially and then just do it. I admit idea of taking 3 boys to the room at the same time seemed crazy but I liked them and did not have time to take them one by one so decided to take plunge and it worked to a great degree

Report may not be that fun filled as I left many things unspoken about but rest assured trip was, nothing new here. From what I saw in December and now, in Jun and what members on the ground are telling me it looks that scene in both BKK and Pattaya is going back to normal at pretty fast pace so when you visit you will like what you see, I'm sure. Not everything will be the same but it's not necessarily bad thing. I like new New Twilight bar and also Tawan in it's more intimate incarnation . Foodland restaurant now has 7 1/2 Michelin stars up from 5 in bad old days even if price of breakfast stays almost the same. Yes tips went up a bit, in some cases quite a bit but with a little of assertiveness and firmness they can be accepted at lower level. If guy doesn't yield it's all the same prescription as always - gnash your teeth and pay hoping for the best or move on as it's plenty of fish in the sea and hope for even better. All I can say is that in several cases I forked out over market with exception of one ( in another one you helped to straighten myself out ) which I already told about I'm happy to feel that I got my money worth ( K,L, X, half alphabet ) or at least did not overpay excessively. Thank you for noticing my sizable contribution to Thai economy and I'm glad I did my part in times when support for guys was scarce although it needs to be a said that buy expenses was partially mitigated by very attractive hotel rates, in few cases still available as traffic is far from rebounding. When comes to food I'm undemanding and most of my food bill is for what boys ate , not me which always can be avoided simply by dining alone and offering them street or 7/11 food if they feel hungry. Reasonable and fair solution although not exactly my style as I don't believe somebody spending night at my place should go to bed hungry and be send hungry home in the morning. What I noticed this trip, not a single guy asked for taxi money, not that I would give them. Few lived nearby , one had car and quite a few motorsai. I'm ashamed to admit but both Covid years were financially very good for me , both with higher earnings and much lower spending - 21 month without travel mushroomed significantly my travel fund. Being low maintenance at home pays dividends when we travel so all I can say, for now Thailand can count on a bit more of my input. When fund will dry out then I will worry what to do as there are always there options, stay at home and keep accumulations or horror of horrors , recall existence of line of credit or finally try at least frugal vacations without bars and boys, with street food and cheap rooms in hotels with view of wall 1 meter from the window. It can be done as Thailand has own merits even with empty bed

Long time no see you M. ! You were quiet for a while , I saw you lurking in the shadow but did not want to disturb you. Great to know your plans of retiring in LOS materialized. Next time I'll be there I make sure to see you. I owe you one. After all you were one who made me curious about merits of 4 hands massage reporting from long gone and forgotten Guy Spa in one of Sukhumvit sois. See how you corrupted me ?, now I'm squeezing 3 boys to a bed, twice in one trip ! May sound like BS but every time I take 4 hands ( last time in Classic Spa in Chiang Mai in Dec ) I always think about your introduction to the subject . I also recall fondly your reports from your car trip with Woody and other guy from CM all the way down to Kanchanaburi, so no, you are not forgotten in my little corner here. I doubt you can learn anything from me, I only know how to squander money on boys but I doubt it's something you need tutoring on, LOL So yes, next time I'm in Pattaya lets meet and finally shake hands after all those years !

that I find hard to believe, after all everybody can see KFC at every corner but it's always fun to meet members for drinks , boy comparison, dinner and/ or bar visit even if I need to watch them screaming running from Tawan. On another hand I understand that some prefer to by anonymous and prefer to to meet anybody. After all we have our own vacations there. About future trips I will keep you posted and hope to be in the region this year again which almost inevitably requires Bangkok stopover. Thinking about beginning of year trip as well but a lots unknown so far to be firm with plans including airfares raising steeply. Like with tip I have internal ceiling of how much I'm ready to fork out for that and even if it's quite liberal I tend to stick firmly to my ceilings. I already commented that idea of dining in soi 4 that evening was bad one due to all that noisy Pride crowd so too bad we did not manage to squeeze place at the table for you. But look at bright side, next time we can pick up exactly where we left and have dinner here at G'Bangkok. Few guys I drag with me there all liked their Thai food too. K would be happy to know you were impressed by his built as he is rightly proud of good care he takes about himself.

I hope you mean it, I read my old reports once- twice a year and I think they are bit too dry in comparison of other's writings but that's my style I guess. Not dwelling on setbacks is also my style and on vacations like those it's easy as usually next day or even next guy or meeting with our members brings consolation. Yes there were few but somehow almost all were mitigated. Guy buying drinks for his friend on my account performed very well on close encounter in the room, two massages without afters at least were good massages and waiting for inevitable which did not materialize had it's moments too. One LT which at first I considered epic disaster after I come to my senses with help of member who put me in place, on further reflection turned out not to be bad at all, just a case of exceeded expectations exclusively on my side, so really as you said above - minor issues if at all and certainly overshadowed by many exciting and very pleasant moments. Only regret I have is not employing that Grindr masseur more often but whose fault was that ? Just mine. Obvious case that at times WE SHOULD think with our cock indeed , leaving head just to carry our hat.

It was fun to meet you on several occasion that trip and I have feeling we will meet there again this year. It was not my longest trip, one in December was but this one is firmly in 2nd place when comes to length. As for resilience and energy it has two sources : fine dining as mentioned just above and desire to utilize vacation time to the max while knowing where to stop - vide my last day spent almost all in bed with unexpected result- almost no jet lag upon return home.

I always believe that optimal day of return should be next after first day of trip when we felt bored. Definitely it was not case this trip in view of how late I found L and even before finding him I did some checking on possible extension but price was bit steep at almost half of what I paid already so I let it go. Yes , I'm in love with Thailand or to be exact , with Thai vacations and will go there again. I would even without boy part , as hard as it to imagine that ! Because of distance , while being there I feel so removed from daily chores and routine that this itself is making trips worthwhile. And where else I can have daily breakfast in 7 star establishment for equivalent of bus ticket at home ? Not to mention luxuriating in rooms of size of half of my condo if not bigger for price of windowless broom closet in NY or London ?

Readers perhaps not but what about staff and patrons in establishment of such elevated repute ? It's not my style anyways, I don't blend eating and knitting

you both right, I had those questions toward end of trip and already few guys Lined me with the same after I returned home. It must be my charm , otherwise why they would ask ? But sadly there was one of them who did not ask me that and did not offer Line exchange and my heart is still bleeding

I don't know about spoon , but I would. Not in the same bed or even room though

that won't work in my case because this is what I'm into anyways, older than 25 preferably it's why reception never bothers my guests with ID check in few cases it could work, not all of them are ladyboys after all reminds me visit to New Twilight last trip when owner , quite young and handsome guy told us " off 2 boys, get one free and that will be me" as for " I like girls " answer , no one else than famous Lucy in Lucky Boys told me' I'm a girl, take me" and THAT WAS SCARY!!!!